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sureLoss
02-24-2020, 12:01 PM
Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
Flames acquire Forbort from LA and trying to acquire Eric Gustafsson from Chicago

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Sounds like Calgary’s plan is to play Gustafsson on the right side. Has spent lots of time on the right in Chicago.

Clears up the potential logjam with the team acquiring two left shot d-men. #Flames

Ryan Leslie @SNryanleslie
3rd round pick for Gustafson

#Flames

official


condition is the Blackhawks will recieve the earlier of Calgary's 3rd rounders this year

Chicago Blackhawks @NHLBlackhawks
now
TRADE ALERT: The #Blackhawks have acquired a third-round pick in the 2020 #NHLDraft from Calgary in exchange for defenseman Erik Gustafsson.

Chicago will receive the earlier of Calgary’s two third-round picks in the 2020 #NHLDraft.

JurassicTunga12
02-24-2020, 12:02 PM
Had 60 points last year.

TheScorpion
02-24-2020, 12:02 PM
Why are they going for a million defensemen again

When is this team going to add a forward

GullFoss
02-24-2020, 12:02 PM
Thats too many defensemen! I wonder if this is to give them space to trade a defenseman for a forward...

sureLoss
02-24-2020, 12:03 PM
Francis says trade is done

Eric Francis @EricFrancis
Flames acquire Gustafsson from Chi. #SNTrade

agulati
02-24-2020, 12:03 PM
This might mean that Brodie is potentially on the move.

djsFlames
02-24-2020, 12:03 PM
K, why not just get Gustafsson from CHI and forget Forbort?

Edit: Interesting. So Brodie out for a RW perhaps? Another domino must fall here.

Cuz
02-24-2020, 12:03 PM
Maybe this means they're moving Brodie?

FlamesAreOne
02-24-2020, 12:03 PM
@EricFrancis
Flames acquire Gustafsson from Chi. #SNTrade

CalgaryFan1988
02-24-2020, 12:03 PM
Why are they going for a million defensemen again

When is this team going to add a forward

Hopefully stop-gaps which allows them to move their 2 pending UFA's for forward help.

keenan87
02-24-2020, 12:03 PM
Okay, this is now a big deal

TheIronMaiden
02-24-2020, 12:04 PM
This might mean that Brodie is potentially on the move.

I think that is exactly what this means.

Buff
02-24-2020, 12:04 PM
Depth on D.

Gio coming back soon.

Brodie gone today?

mile
02-24-2020, 12:04 PM
Couple of left-handed D coming in... Brodie or Hanifin or Kylington on the block?

TheScorpion
02-24-2020, 12:04 PM
Well I'm ok with adding Gus if they trade Hamonic.

This is super duper random. But at least it's something.

jg13
02-24-2020, 12:04 PM
Wait.. we're involved in a potential trade with a player that can make a difference for us?

Nsd1
02-24-2020, 12:04 PM
I don’t think TheFoss had great things to say about Gustafsson

PeteMoss
02-24-2020, 12:04 PM
This won't be cheap... going to be some pieces going the other way.

Torture
02-24-2020, 12:04 PM
Well it would seem everyone can stop complaining that Treliving is doing nothing.

Poe969
02-24-2020, 12:04 PM
I hope Brodie and hamonic are gone now

Flash Walken
02-24-2020, 12:04 PM
Gustafsson is a pending UFA in his own right.

MrMike
02-24-2020, 12:05 PM
Good we need a PP guy

TheScorpion
02-24-2020, 12:05 PM
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sureLoss
02-24-2020, 12:05 PM
Eric Francis @EricFrancis
Conditional picks for both Flames defensive acquisitions, not costing them anything from the current roster.

foshizzle11
02-24-2020, 12:05 PM
I think this means someone else is moving out. Brodie for a RW please!

CGY12
02-24-2020, 12:05 PM
I like the player. Hopefully this means Brodie for Kapenen. We need a speedy forward.

Erick Estrada
02-24-2020, 12:05 PM
Why are they going for a million defensemen again

When is this team going to add a forward

Brad Treliving loves his defensemen.

N-E-B
02-24-2020, 12:05 PM
I like this one. Thinking Brodie could be gone for a forward soon. Hoffman maybe?

FanIn80
02-24-2020, 12:05 PM
This has to mean Hanifin is gone.

Hey Connor, It's Mess
02-24-2020, 12:05 PM
Gustafsson is legit but only a rental. Is this the first domino in a Flames defenseman going out the door?

daveinspruce
02-24-2020, 12:06 PM
Oh great two more plugs

handgroen
02-24-2020, 12:06 PM
I like this

Camronius
02-24-2020, 12:06 PM
Why are they going for a million defensemen again

When is this team going to add a forward

I'd take both these D if this one is also true. he's a UFA tho, so not sure whats up.

fire_starter
02-24-2020, 12:06 PM
Please be Hoffman if we get a forward.

Flash Walken
02-24-2020, 12:06 PM
2nd for Gustafsson, 1st if they re-sign?

Leeman4Gilmour
02-24-2020, 12:06 PM
I hope one of the UFA's are traded now....Didn't really thinking having 9 defenseman on the roster at the end of last years deadline worked out all that well.

JJolg
02-24-2020, 12:07 PM
Oh great two more plugs

Totally.. Hate have a 60 point dman that can run a pp... Lol

btimbit
02-24-2020, 12:07 PM
Oh great two more plugs

????

I could understand not getting excited for Forbort who is just a more steady Stone, but Gustafsson is actually quite good

SportsJunky
02-24-2020, 12:07 PM
Why are they going for a million defensemen again

When is this team going to add a forward

Because they have problems keeping the puck out of their net.

agulati
02-24-2020, 12:07 PM
I like this move. Will help the power play.

Cuz
02-24-2020, 12:07 PM
Some help for the PP me thinks

djsFlames
02-24-2020, 12:07 PM
I like the player. Hopefully this means Brodie for Kapenen. We need a speedy forward.

Yeah, I think Brodie is getting moved for a forward now.

They got a D that brings offense in Gus. Too many d-men after guys return. Brodie already speculated. Something else is coming.

Canada 02
02-24-2020, 12:07 PM
has to be prelude to something bigger

Johnny Makarov
02-24-2020, 12:08 PM
Yes please!!!!!

jg13
02-24-2020, 12:08 PM
This has to mean Hanifin is gone.

Pardon

GIODUDE
02-24-2020, 12:08 PM
Not finalized

blankall
02-24-2020, 12:08 PM
Very interesting. Eric Gustafsson is a legit offensive d-man. 60 points last year and near .5PPG on a Chi team that is having a horrific season.

This actually addresses a need!

If the Flames are moving out one of their more defensively orientated d-men for a 2nd line RW, I'll be blown away.

Reggie Dunlop
02-24-2020, 12:08 PM
Where does he fit in on the pairings?

bubbsy
02-24-2020, 12:08 PM
please please please move out Brodie/Hamonic now.

foshizzle11
02-24-2020, 12:08 PM
Oh great two more plugs

I'm pretty sure Gustafsson isn't a plug.

tvp2003
02-24-2020, 12:09 PM
Is this just to troll the Oilers?

Had a solid season last year... 17 goals and 60 points.

Hot_Flatus
02-24-2020, 12:09 PM
Because they have problems keeping the puck out of their net.

Call me old fashioned, but this team isn't exactly an offensive juggernaut either.

ComixZone
02-24-2020, 12:09 PM
This deal I don't mind, more offense from Gust.

...LHD is crowded now, no? Hanifin, Brodie, Kylington, Forbort, Gustafsson, and then Gio and Vali?

Flash Walken
02-24-2020, 12:10 PM
Because they have problems keeping the puck out of their net.

Gustafsson does not help with that.

FlamesAreOne
02-24-2020, 12:10 PM
17 goals last year.

AustinL_NHL
02-24-2020, 12:10 PM
Gustafsson is actually good.

Meh defensively but great offensively and great relative stats

TheScorpion
02-24-2020, 12:11 PM
Yeah Gus is basically 2012 Mike Green lite. He's a defenseman in name only.

But I'm cool with adding some PP fire.

Reggie Dunlop
02-24-2020, 12:11 PM
Valimaki gone for the season then?

PeteMoss
02-24-2020, 12:11 PM
Where does he fit in on the pairings?

He replaces Kylington and plays PP.

Mass_nerder
02-24-2020, 12:11 PM
You have to think he'll be 3rd pairing, 1st pp.

JurassicTunga12
02-24-2020, 12:11 PM
Yeah, I like this move.

Johnny Makarov
02-24-2020, 12:11 PM
Swedish Dougie!!

umm wait. Francis is confirming this? He prob goes to the Canucks. FU5

FlamesAreOne
02-24-2020, 12:12 PM
No more Stone is a great thing.

Trailer Fire
02-24-2020, 12:12 PM
This deal I don't mind, more offense from Gust.

...LHD is crowded now, no? Hanifin, Brodie, Kylington, Forbort, Gustafsson, and then Gio and Vali?Hanafin/Brodie as part of a package for Kapanen or some other young RW?

Reggie Dunlop
02-24-2020, 12:13 PM
Forbort = conditional 4th
Gustafsson = conditional 3rd

Speculation on Sportsnet960

IliketoPuck
02-24-2020, 12:13 PM
Gustafsson is actually good.

Meh defensively but great offensively and great relative stats

My buddy is a huge Chicago fan. Watches all their games.

He's laughing his *** off at us torpedoing our defense by adding Gustaffson. Says the guy has the defensive awareness of a potato.

Textcritic
02-24-2020, 12:13 PM
So, currently:

LD
Giordano
Hanifin
Gustafsson
Kylington
Valimaki (IR)

RD
Brodie (shoots left)
Andersson
Stone
Hamonic (IR)

Something else has to give here.

dino7c
02-24-2020, 12:14 PM
Oh great two more plugs

17 goals last season...some people

ComixZone
02-24-2020, 12:14 PM
So, currently:

LD
Giordano
Hanifin
Gustafsson
Kylington
Valimaki (IR)

RD
Brodie (shoots left)
Andersson
Stone
Hamonic (IR)

Something else has to give here.

Brodie for Barrie deal makes more sense now.

17 goals last season...some people

I'm not a huge fan of the Forbort deal - but this Gustafsson deal is fine with me. He can bring some puck moving ability and pace to the team - but I still really dislike rentals.

Karl
02-24-2020, 12:14 PM
My buddy is a huge Chicago fan. Watches all their games.

He's laughing his *** off at us torpedoing our defense by adding Gustaffson. Says the guy has the defensive awareness of a potato.

He's at least better than Derek Forbort.

Royle9
02-24-2020, 12:15 PM
Gustafsson is good, he also fits into our Sweedish sensation crew.

I hope this is a sign that one Brodie or Hamonic is going for a top 6 RHS forward?

Ryan Coke
02-24-2020, 12:15 PM
And Forbert

Jacks
02-24-2020, 12:15 PM
Assuming he is getting extended I kind of like this deal

FanIn80
02-24-2020, 12:15 PM
Pardon

Our left-side D
Gio
Gustafsson
Hanifin
Kylington


Our right-side D
Andersson
Brodie
Hamonic
Stone

We don't have the depth to just trade Brodie without also getting a RD from somewhere, and since we got a top-4 LD instead of a RD, that means we must be dealing from the left side.

SuperMatt18
02-24-2020, 12:15 PM
My guess...Hanifin for Nylander or Palmeri is going to happen

bubbsy
02-24-2020, 12:15 PM
Brodie for Barrie deal makes more sense now.

Brodie for a forward or futures makes more sense to me. Barrie is a parallel (at best) move in my opinion. I'd rather just keep Brodie.

djsFlames
02-24-2020, 12:16 PM
A conditional mid round pick for a guy with this kind of offensive upside is a good trade for the Flames.

I assume the condition is an extension.

theslymonkey
02-24-2020, 12:16 PM
So, currently:

LD
Giordano
Hanifin
Gustafsson
Kylington
Valimaki (IR)

RD
Brodie (shoots left)
Andersson
Stone
Hamonic (IR)

Something else has to give here.

I count 7 D there. Maybe Hammer and Vali are done for the year.

btimbit
02-24-2020, 12:16 PM
I like Swedes

Hackey
02-24-2020, 12:16 PM
Does this mean were trading Brodie? Or just adding depth for our run to the finals?

Camronius
02-24-2020, 12:16 PM
My buddy is a huge Chicago fan. Watches all their games.

He's laughing his *** off at us torpedoing our defense by adding Gustaffson. Says the guy has the defensive awareness of a potato.

Anyone got his corsi numbers?

Ashasx
02-24-2020, 12:16 PM
If it's true that it's a conditional 3rd, that seems like massive underpay

Bonded
02-24-2020, 12:16 PM
My guess...Hanifin for Nylander or Palmeri is going to happen
Hanifin for Palmieri would make me rage

btimbit
02-24-2020, 12:17 PM
A conditional mid round pick for a guy with this kind of offensive upside is a good trade for the Flames.

Definitely. It fits a need too

jg13
02-24-2020, 12:17 PM
Our left-side D
Gio
Gustafsson
Hanifin
Kylington


Our right-side D
Andersson
Brodie
Hamonic
Stone

We don't have the depth to just trade Brodie without also getting a RD from somewhere, and since we got a top-4 LD instead of a RD, that means we must be dealing from the left side.

Sorry I thought you meant he was going back in this particular deal haha.

1qqaaz
02-24-2020, 12:17 PM
There's not way Gustafsson is going for a conditional mid-round pick. That must be for Forbert.

Right?

blankall
02-24-2020, 12:17 PM
Something must be going on...Flames acquiring two more LHD?

I had resigned myself to not seeing any Flames moves this TDL. Now I'm scared.

Manhattanboy
02-24-2020, 12:17 PM
Maybe Hamonic done for the year?

FlamesAreOne
02-24-2020, 12:18 PM
Definitely feels like Hammer and Jusso aren't coming back or another trade is incoming.

Icon
02-24-2020, 12:18 PM
There's not way Gustafsson is going for a conditional mid-round pick. That must be for Forbert.

Right?

My guess is it's a 3rd that turns into a 2nd if he re-signs.

Joborule
02-24-2020, 12:18 PM
Move Brodie next for assets, and then this day may end up alright.

Valimaki gone for the season then?

Looks like that with these defensive acquisitions. Too bad since he's lost a year in development, but I suppose this pushes his contract up a year, and protects him from the expansion draft? So not all lost.

Nelson
02-24-2020, 12:18 PM
This is a very interesting situation.

Giordano, Hanifin, Gustafsson, Forbort, Kylington, Davidson, Valimaki

Andersson, Brodie, Hamonic, Stone

At the very least, with 11 defencemen, Valimaki is not playing, which is a positive because it means he will not be eligible for the expansion draft!

But this could also mean a LHD goes for a RHF.

GranteedEV
02-24-2020, 12:18 PM
My buddy is a huge Chicago fan. Watches all their games.

He's laughing his *** off at us torpedoing our defense by adding Gustaffson. Says the guy has the defensive awareness of a potato.

I take these kind of comments with a grain of salt. Remember how bad Justin Schultz used to look as a top pair guy in Edmonton?

Well Pittsburgh insulted him under guys like Letang and Dumoulin. They gave him a partner in Cole who he fit with. Suddenly he was a key piece in a two time cup champ.

Any time you add a guy capable of scoring 60pts for a 3rd round pick, it's a safe gamble.

Strange Brew
02-24-2020, 12:19 PM
I kind of like this. That's a lot of UFA's on the back end right now but thank God our GM is trying to improve the team somehow.

Reggie Dunlop
02-24-2020, 12:19 PM
Yelesin back to Stockton then

cupofjoe
02-24-2020, 12:20 PM
Oh great two more plugs

Demonstrating your hockey knowledge depth?

FanIn80
02-24-2020, 12:20 PM
My guess...Hanifin for Nylander or Palmeri is going to happen

I would LOVE me some Hanifin for Nylander action.

Vinny01
02-24-2020, 12:20 PM
Seems like a good deal this guy put up 60pts last year.

FlamesFanInEdmonton
02-24-2020, 12:20 PM
I would not be surprised if we do nothing else today. Seems to me in years past moves like this have been made and we all speculate something big must be happening...until it doesn’t.

agulati
02-24-2020, 12:21 PM
This trade is probably lined up if the flames are able to pull the trigger on the other deal. That might be the hold up.

Gaudreau is a Ninja
02-24-2020, 12:21 PM
Love this move!

Saint Troy
02-24-2020, 12:21 PM
Love it, shake it up Brad...

dustygoon
02-24-2020, 12:22 PM
Yelesin back to Stockton then

Bummer. I thought Yelesin played alright.

Have any of the mid round pick for rental depth blueliners trades in the past been good?

Nelson
02-24-2020, 12:23 PM
This needs to be taken with a lot of salt too, but my personal Hawks fan says Gustafsson is very good and sadly says this is a very good deal for the Flames.

Toonage
02-24-2020, 12:23 PM
Spitballing, maybe this signals that NJD trade they almost made for Hall, but with Palmieri & Vatanen (RHD) coming back. Hanifin & Bennett going out along with pick(s).

Vinny01
02-24-2020, 12:24 PM
Spitballing, maybe this signals that NJD trade they almost made for Hall, but with Palmieri & Vatanen (RHD) coming back. Hanifin & Bennett going out along with pick(s).

I really hope not. Palmieri for 100 games is not worth Hanifin.

kirant
02-24-2020, 12:24 PM
Anyone got his corsi numbers?
They're not bad (https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gustaer02-advanced.html), but he seems sheltered. Lots of offensive starts and it's been that way his whole NHL career so I imagine he's not much more than an offensive specialist.


If the Flames can find a way to handle his turnovers (something every Blackhawks fans I've heard from has mentioned) and his defensive liabilities, then he seems like a good pick up. Especially if the Flames look to extend him.

ComixZone
02-24-2020, 12:24 PM
Spitballing, maybe this signals that NJD trade they almost made for Hall, but with Palmieri & Vatanen (RHD) coming back. Hanifin & Bennett going out along with pick(s).

I don't think Calgary would be adding picks to that deal. Hanifin is the best player there IMO (when you take age/contract into it), and I don't trade Bennett for a UFA Vatanen.

Nelson
02-24-2020, 12:24 PM
12 defencemen (I forgot Yelesin)!

Giordano, Hanifin, Gustafsson, Forbort, Kylington, Davidson, Valimaki

Andersson, Brodie, Hamonic, Yelesin, Stone

There must be a move coming. Also, Ryan Pike observes the cap situation is now untenable.

sureLoss
02-24-2020, 12:25 PM
Steinberg says conditional 3rd is what he is hearing.

Johnny Makarov
02-24-2020, 12:25 PM
Has anyone either than Francis confirm this yet?? sorry if i have doubts.

btimbit
02-24-2020, 12:26 PM
12 defencemen (I forgot Yelesin)!

Giordano, Hanifin, Gustafsson, Forbort, Kylington, Davidson, Valimaki

Andersson, Brodie, Hamonic, Yelesin, Stone

There must be a move coming. Also, Ryan Pike observes the cap situation is now untenable.

Unless Hamonic is just done for the year. Davidson and Yelesin back to Stockton, Stone back to the press box

Leeman4Gilmour
02-24-2020, 12:26 PM
12 defencemen (I forgot Yelesin)!

Giordano, Hanifin, Gustafsson, Forbort, Kylington, Davidson, Valimaki

Andersson, Brodie, Hamonic, Yelesin, Stone

There must be a move coming. Also, Ryan Pike observes the cap situation is now untenable.

Interesting. The Gustafsson trade hasn't been made "official" yet. Perhaps this is why.

FlamesAddiction
02-24-2020, 12:26 PM
This is a very interesting situation.

Giordano, Hanifin, Gustafsson, Forbort, Kylington, Davidson, Valimaki

Andersson, Brodie, Hamonic, Stone

At the very least, with 11 defencemen, Valimaki is not playing, which is a positive because it means he will not be eligible for the expansion draft!

But this could also mean a LHD goes for a RHF.

At this point, they would be foolish to bring Valimaki back. I believe if he misses the whole season, he doesn't need to be protected against the Seattle expansion.

Might as well let him get back up to NHL game-shape in Stockton if he gets cleared to play.

djsFlames
02-24-2020, 12:26 PM
So who's going out now to accommodate these acquisitions?

Place your bets.

cupofjoe
02-24-2020, 12:27 PM
I take these kind of comments with a grain of salt. Remember how bad Justin Schultz used to look as a top pair guy in Edmonton?

Well Pittsburgh insulted him under guys like Letang and Dumoulin. They gave him a partner in Cole who he fit with. Suddenly he was a key piece in a two time cup champ.

Any time you add a guy capable of scoring 60pts for a 3rd round pick, it's a safe gamble.

Who said insulting people doesn't work...

Hey Connor, It's Mess
02-24-2020, 12:27 PM
So who's going out now to accommodate these acquisitions?

Place your bets.

Kylington

united
02-24-2020, 12:27 PM
Reserving judgement on both these deals for the next domino to fall as neither numbers or cap make sense.

dissentowner
02-24-2020, 12:27 PM
Pretty obvious to me there is more to come, too many D now. I will be shocked if Brodie is not dealt for forward help. Like what BT is doing.

FanIn80
02-24-2020, 12:27 PM
So who's going out now to accommodate these acquisitions?

Place your bets.

Monahan, Hanifin
Matthews

keenan87
02-24-2020, 12:27 PM
The "finalizing" term in the title reminds of the Zucket fiasco last year.

Aarongavey
02-24-2020, 12:28 PM
Solid deadline moves. If we do not move a dman out we will have 9 or 10 NHL dmen by the end of the year. We can only play 6 each night, but this rounds out the black aces quite nicely.

Icon
02-24-2020, 12:28 PM
The "finalizing" term in the title reminds of the Zucket fiasco last year.

maybe it's pending the Flames making another deal (cap space?) first?

ComixZone
02-24-2020, 12:29 PM
maybe it's pending the Flames making another deal (cap space?) first?

This is what Leslie's last tweet makes me think.

None of this stuff is official yet - 3rd trade coming?

djsFlames
02-24-2020, 12:30 PM
Monahan, Hanifin
Matthews

Dope.

dissentowner
02-24-2020, 12:30 PM
So who's going out now to accommodate these acquisitions?

Place your bets.

Brodie, Jankowski, and a pick/prospect for Barrie and Kapanen.

zukes
02-24-2020, 12:30 PM
Saw on one the channels that it's condition pick(s)

soulchoice
02-24-2020, 12:30 PM
At this point, they would be foolish to bring Valimaki back. I believe if he misses the whole season, he doesn't need to be protected against the Seattle expansion.

Might as well let him get back up to NHL game-shape in Stockton if he gets cleared to play.

Unless he is 100 percent I’d rather they not play him. Asset management.

Mike F
02-24-2020, 12:31 PM
Why are so many people trading Hanifin?

23 and already a legit top 3-4.... 2nd on the team in ice time.... Showing flashes of great upside... On a great contract...

This is the insulation as Gio drops off

TheScorpion
02-24-2020, 12:31 PM
The "finalizing" term in the title reminds of the Zucket fiasco last year.

At least we still have half an hour to go instead of hearing about it at 12:56

djsFlames
02-24-2020, 12:31 PM
Brodie, Jankowski, and a pick/prospect for Barrie and Kapanen.

I think we need to be subtracting a roster d-man here, which would be the point of a third trade.

Nelson
02-24-2020, 12:31 PM
This has taken a long time. I wonder if its more than the 3rd going back to Chicago...or if it doesn't happen...this deal does almost seem too good for a Flames trade.

Bonded
02-24-2020, 12:32 PM
Why are so many people trading Hanifin?

23 and already a legit top 3-4.... 2nd on the team in ice time.... Showing flashes of great upside... On a great contract...

This is the insulation as Gio drops off
He can get a good forward

Vinny01
02-24-2020, 12:32 PM
Why are so many people trading Hanifin?

23 and already a legit top 3-4.... 2nd on the team in ice time.... Showing flashes of great upside... On a great contract...

This is the insulation as Gio drops off

His name has been in the rumor mill the last 3-4 days.

Johnny Makarov
02-24-2020, 12:32 PM
Send us Seabrook and your 1st. We'll make it work.

TheIronMaiden
02-24-2020, 12:33 PM
Why are so many people trading Hanifin?

23 and already a legit top 3-4.... 2nd on the team in ice time.... Showing flashes of great upside... On a great contract...

This is the insulation as Gio drops off

No kidding Hanifin, Andersson, Kyllington and Valimaki all being under 24 is what gives me the most hope for the future.

blankall
02-24-2020, 12:33 PM
Brodie, Jankowski, and a pick/prospect for Barrie and Kapanen.

My guess is that the Gustafsson moves kyboshes the Barrie move. Barrie has exposed himself as being awful and might be injured. I really don't see the Flames adding both Gustafsson and Barrie. Gustafsson does the same thing for cheaper.

dino7c
02-24-2020, 12:34 PM
This has taken a long time. I wonder if its more than the 3rd going back to Chicago...or if it doesn't happen...this deal does almost seem too good for a Flames trade.

Yet some still complain

Canada 02
02-24-2020, 12:35 PM
Flames currently have 5 UFA D-men; someone has got to go

edit. 6 UFA blueliners including Davidson

Nelson
02-24-2020, 12:35 PM
Steinberg says the Flames will play Gustafsson on the right. Brodie replacement?

The Cobra
02-24-2020, 12:35 PM
This has taken a long time. I wonder if its more than the 3rd going back to Chicago...or if it doesn't happen...this deal does almost seem too good for a Flames trade.

Gustafsson has been really bad this year, after a very good offensive year last year.

The Hawks have the worse PP in the league this year, and Gustafsson has been moved off the first unit.

His defensive play has always been really bad.

He can likely help Calgary offensive play, but he's not a keeper and they won't be re-signing him to an extension.

I assume a third that gets upgraded to a second if unlikely things happen.

sureLoss
02-24-2020, 12:35 PM
Ryan Pike @RyanNPike
Erik Gustafsson played with Mikael Backlund and Elias Lindholm at the Worlds. #Flames

Strange Brew
02-24-2020, 12:36 PM
Brodie, Jankowski, and a pick/prospect for Barrie and Kapanen.

Close. No need for Barrie though. So subtract the prospect/pick.

dissentowner
02-24-2020, 12:36 PM
So who's going out now to accommodate these acquisitions?

Place your bets.

My guess is that the Gustafsson moves kyboshes the Barrie move. Barrie has exposed himself as being awful and might be injured. I really don't see the Flames adding both Gustafsson and Barrie. Gustafsson does the same thing for cheaper.

Ok, Brodie and Stone for Kapanen. Nope, both new guys are LD. I have no idea...

Reggie Dunlop
02-24-2020, 12:36 PM
Forbort is a pure depth rental is my guess. I think they try to ink Gustafsson longer term.

heep223
02-24-2020, 12:37 PM
Gustafsson was drafted by the Oilers in 2012

Puke

The Cobra
02-24-2020, 12:37 PM
I think they try to ink Gustafsson longer term.

I doubt that. He has zero defensive ability.

ComixZone
02-24-2020, 12:38 PM
Forbort is a pure depth rental is my guess. I think they try to ink Gustafsson longer term.

I would imagine the condition will be "becomes a 2nd if player is re-signed"

Roof-Daddy
02-24-2020, 12:38 PM
Waiting for Ken Kings flight to land or something?

RedHot25
02-24-2020, 12:38 PM
Forbot-Gustafsson, new 3rd pairing?

All defense-All offense.

Reggie Dunlop
02-24-2020, 12:38 PM
Gustafsson was drafted by the Oilers in 2012

Puke

Never signed with them, so minimal stink.

sureLoss
02-24-2020, 12:40 PM
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
now
Sounds like Calgary’s plan is to play Gustafsson on the right side. Has spent lots of time on the right in Chicago.

Clears up the potential logjam with the team acquiring two left shot d-men. #Flames

Psytic
02-24-2020, 12:41 PM
I like that they did something though, that's always nice.

ResAlien
02-24-2020, 12:41 PM
Treliving loves defencemen like Taco loves kickers.

Canada 02
02-24-2020, 12:41 PM
Gustafsson was drafted by the Oilers in 2012

Puke
great hockey IQ; smart enough to know not to sign there

Elkyiv
02-24-2020, 12:42 PM
19 mins left is concerning

Murph
02-24-2020, 12:43 PM
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
now
Sounds like Calgary’s plan is to play Gustafsson on the right side. Has spent lots of time on the right in Chicago.

Clears up the potential logjam with the team acquiring two left shot d-men. #Flames

Hamonic to IR and the Flames are done.

dissentowner
02-24-2020, 12:45 PM
I doubt that. He has zero defensive ability.

This is the same overhyped crap people say about Barrie. He has had a down year but his defence is passable. Saying he has zero defensive ability is ridiculous.

ComixZone
02-24-2020, 12:45 PM
Hamonic to IR and the Flames are done.

Would have to be LTIR for the remainder of the regular season.

Textcritic
02-24-2020, 12:45 PM
19 mins left is concerning
I wouldn't be too worried about it. News of deals continue to trickle in for hours past the actual deadline.

Johnny Makarov
02-24-2020, 12:47 PM
I wouldn't be too worried about it. News of deals continue to trickle in for hours past the actual deadline.

Not good if we only have Francis to rely on.

standinmotion
02-24-2020, 12:47 PM
Still finalizing? It's hard to find fax machine service technician these days...

agulati
02-24-2020, 12:47 PM
This isn’t final yet, right?

Dragomir
02-24-2020, 12:47 PM
As long as the 1st and 2nd are intact I am ok with these acquisitions.

Flames_F.T.W
02-24-2020, 12:49 PM
Yeah this could get dicey as the deadline approaches. Hopefully not another Zucker

Reggie Dunlop
02-24-2020, 12:50 PM
I'd love to see the Flames somehow pick up another 2nd. Supposedly a very deep draft.

getoverit
02-24-2020, 12:50 PM
Maybe Tre's boss not picking up his phone again :whistle:

zukes
02-24-2020, 12:52 PM
Sportsnet has it as done, TSN does not.

Beatle17
02-24-2020, 12:52 PM
Thought I would check my phone and almost had a heart attack. I thought the headline read Gudbranson!!

Dragomir
02-24-2020, 12:52 PM
Grats on the Cup Oilers!

The Cobra
02-24-2020, 12:52 PM
This is the same overhyped crap people say about Barrie. He has had a down year but his defence is passable. Saying he has zero defensive ability is ridiculous.

Chicago has some of the worse defensemen in the league, as they lead the league in giving up high danger scoring chances.

Gustafsson has been a large part of that, as he's been moved down their pairings as the season went on.

They weren't particularly enamoured with him when he scored so well last year.

Comparing him to Barrie is an insult to Barrie.

Gustafsson has a reasonable chance to be back playing in Sweden in a few years.

Fine "passable". For a second division team, sure. For a team in the playoffs fighting good teams? He'll be badly exposed.

But as long as he's used on the 3rd pairing and on the PP, it's a good depth move, and obtained cheaply enough.

There is a reason why teams were paying plenty for d-man, and few wanted him.

GranteedEV
02-24-2020, 12:52 PM
Would have to be LTIR for the remainder of the regular season.

The Old Patrick Kane Special

dino7c
02-24-2020, 12:53 PM
Grats on the Cup Oilers!

??? You okay?

Textcritic
02-24-2020, 12:56 PM
Grats on the Cup Oilers!??? You okay?
Yeah, that's twice in the last hour.

agulati
02-24-2020, 12:56 PM
4 minutes left. What’s the hold up on announcing it?

TheScorpion
02-24-2020, 12:57 PM
Laz working to confirm

1232031443746017281

standinmotion
02-24-2020, 12:58 PM
4 minutes left. What’s the hold up on announcing it?


Maybe it's pending on another deal... Hannifin for Nylander!

Buff
02-24-2020, 12:58 PM
4 minutes left. What’s the hold up on announcing it?

Stop worrying.

Trades will get announced throughout the afternoon as the NHL processes them. Most you will have heard about already, some the GMs will be coy about.

Nelson
02-24-2020, 01:05 PM
https://twitter.com/Kent_Wilson/status/1232031858554048512?s=20

Kent Wilson
@Kent_Wilson
Gustafsson and Hanifin have a very similar player profile.
11:57 AM · Feb 24, 2020·TweetDeck

Really hope this deal actually gets done for a conditional 3rd...

Scornfire
02-24-2020, 01:05 PM
This team confuses me

agulati
02-24-2020, 01:06 PM
Stop worrying.

Trades will get announced throughout the afternoon as the NHL processes them. Most you will have heard about already, some the GMs will be coy about.

Not worried. Just curious why Sportsnet had it as done, and TSN hasn’t reported on it being done yet.

keenan87
02-24-2020, 01:08 PM
Not worried. Just curious why Sportsnet had it as done, and TSN hasn’t reported on it being done yet.

If it helps you, TSNs trade board had the Flames logo besides Gustafsson.

pseudoreality
02-24-2020, 01:08 PM
Not worried. Just curious why Sportsnet had it as done, and TSN hasn’t reported on it being done yet.

It was on TSN's ticker, but not their website, nor did I notice them announce it.

burn_this_city
02-24-2020, 01:10 PM
Someone put legal instead of letter into the fax. Will try again at the draft.

Johnny Makarov
02-24-2020, 01:11 PM
I am going to be super pissed if this trade doesnt go through!

I'll even start thinking that they might miss the playoffs this year!

FanIn80
02-24-2020, 01:11 PM
I think this was contingent on another deal happening, which didn't do through, meaning this isn't happening either.

Not working to confirm.

Nelson
02-24-2020, 01:15 PM
If this deal doesn't get done and all we did was give up a 4th rounder for Forbort, I will be sad.

Aarongavey
02-24-2020, 01:15 PM
Pretty predictable deadline moves. Give up some of your future success for a small improvement on your chances to make the playoffs this year. Team is not a Stanley cup contender so it made no sense to to give up big assets. Potentially slightly hurts the franchise in the future but could help them get into the playoffs this year.

TheScorpion
02-24-2020, 01:15 PM
Confirmed

1232036286162227200

Johnny Makarov
02-24-2020, 01:16 PM
Confirmed

1232036286162227200

umm who is this guy?

FanIn80
02-24-2020, 01:16 PM
Well... see what happens when I don't work to confirm my BS?

TheScorpion
02-24-2020, 01:16 PM
umm who is this guy?

Blackhawks beat writer for the Athletic

He's reliable

burn_this_city
02-24-2020, 01:16 PM
umm who is this guy?

Chicago Athletic writer.

GIODUDE
02-24-2020, 01:16 PM
TSN ticker says we acquired him

Jetfire
02-24-2020, 01:17 PM
Well that’s exciting. I think he’ll be a nice fit.

GreenLantern
02-24-2020, 01:17 PM
TSN guys just said the deal is still not done.

CMPunk
02-24-2020, 01:17 PM
umm who is this guy?

Well if you click the link, it says he's a senior writer for the Athletic

thefoss1957
02-24-2020, 01:17 PM
I have stated before, Gustafsson is horrific at playing defense. I liken his style to Phil Housely, 4th forward, late backcheck. more on this later.

agulati
02-24-2020, 01:17 PM
TSN just said the Gustafsson deal is not done yet.

btimbit
02-24-2020, 01:18 PM
umm who is this guy?

The Athletic. Think of him like Chicago's Darren Haynes

FanIn80
02-24-2020, 01:20 PM
The Athletic. Think of him like Chicago's Darren Haynes

OK, but Darren Haynes doesn't have any inside access to Calgary's GM. He's literally an opinion writer.

Reggie Dunlop
02-24-2020, 01:24 PM
OK, but Darren Haynes doesn't have any inside access to Calgary's GM. He's literally an opinion writer.

He's also the Flames beat writer for Canadian Press.

TheScorpion
02-24-2020, 01:46 PM
Francis says it's for a 3rd

sureLoss
02-24-2020, 01:46 PM
Ryan Leslie @SNryanleslie
3rd round pick for Gustafson

#Flames

Ashasx
02-24-2020, 01:47 PM
Unconditional? Even better.

Dragomir
02-24-2020, 01:49 PM
This is actually a decent deal especially if we re-sign him.

The Cobra
02-24-2020, 01:52 PM
This is actually a decent deal especially if we re-sign him.

It's likely even better if we don't LOL.

N-E-B
02-24-2020, 01:52 PM
TSN seems to be the only ones reluctant to call this deal done

Johnny Makarov
02-24-2020, 01:53 PM
This is actually a decent deal especially if we re-sign him.

This is a top 5 deal of the day!

Nelson
02-24-2020, 01:55 PM
https://twitter.com/Kent_Wilson/status/1232031858554048512?s=20

Gustafsson has been pretty comparable to Hanifin over the last two seasons. I'd say that's a good return for a 3rd rounder.

btimbit
02-24-2020, 01:56 PM
TSN seems to be the only ones reluctant to call this deal done

Because it involves Calgary. They aren't reluctant they just don't give a ####

Nelson
02-24-2020, 01:57 PM
I'm really hoping the Flames get the 3rd from Neal so they have a full draft.

djsFlames
02-24-2020, 01:58 PM
Given the other prices, this trade legitimately falls between good and great.

Could bring instant upside to the team into the playoff stretch in an area they require.

TheIronMaiden
02-24-2020, 01:58 PM
I am very happy the Flames will go into the draft with a 1st and a 2nd. This team needs to restock the cupboards badly.

You Need a Thneed
02-24-2020, 02:01 PM
TSN still hasn’t added this trade to the list of what Calgary did.

sureLoss
02-24-2020, 02:01 PM
Ryan Pike @RyanNPike
Also, shouldn't be surprising, but #Flames scouted Erik Gustafsson HEAVILY before he signed with Chicago.

djsFlames
02-24-2020, 02:02 PM
TSN still hasn’t added this trade to the list of what Calgary did.

Well, TSN is trash.

sureLoss
02-24-2020, 02:02 PM
TSN probably hasn't officially added it because the Davidson trade needs to go through first to give the Flames the necessary cap space I believe.

midniteowl
02-24-2020, 02:03 PM
my guess is that the gustafsson moves kyboshes the barrie move. barrie has exposed himself as being awful and might be injured. I really don't see the flames adding both gustafsson and barrie. Gustafsson does the same thing for cheaper.


thanks heaven!!! Not a fan of Barrie.

Johnny Makarov
02-24-2020, 02:05 PM
He was 6th in d scoring last year. A 3rd rounder is a pretty good deal.

He also outscored Barrie last year.

thefoss1957
02-24-2020, 02:08 PM
In Gus you are getting a PP QB and a 3rd pairing D-Man that needs a SAH partner.

djsFlames
02-24-2020, 02:09 PM
In Gus you are getting a PP QB and a 3rd pairing D-Man that needs a SAH partner.

Hence Forbort.

btimbit
02-24-2020, 02:09 PM
In Gus you are getting a PP QB and a 3rd pairing D-Man that needs a SAH partner.

Forbert - Gustaffson sounds pretty solid to me. Forbert's basically spent the last few years covering for Doughty's bad pinches and whatnot

Nelson
02-24-2020, 02:10 PM
https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2020/02/21/chicago-blackhawks-nhl-trade-deadline-nhl-trade-rumors-erik-gustafsson/

What he provides. You are not going to get a traditional top-pairing defenseman that will give you a shutdown role or the type of player you want playing 25 minutes a night against the other team’s best forwards. He will, however, give you a lot of offense from the blue line, especially if you put him into situations where he can focus on the offensive side of the puck. He will probably never duplicate the 17-goal, 60-point performance from the 2018-19 season, but he is still a productive player that should be good for around 10 goals and 30-35 points over an 82-game season with good possession numbers from the blue line. Not a superstar by any means, but a darn good second-pairing option for a playoff team.

This goes along with Kent Wilson's post about him having metrics similar to Hanifin.

But Steinberg saying Gustafsson can play the right side.

I wonder about

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Andersson
Kylington - Gustafsson
Forbort - Yelesin
- Stone

Injured: Hamonic

Not playing: Valimaki (good, not eligible for expansion draft)

Johnny Makarov
02-24-2020, 02:11 PM
Hence Forbort.

How about some 1st pairing option? I'm sure Gus is better offensively than Doughty.

Gaudreau is a Ninja
02-24-2020, 02:11 PM
Can’t wait for EB��

PaperBagger'14
02-24-2020, 02:12 PM
It's probably good that we can afford to ot play Valimaki, just one less piece to protect in the expansion draft

ah123
02-24-2020, 02:13 PM
https://twitter.com/Kent_Wilson/status/1232031858554048512?s=20

Gustafsson has been pretty comparable to Hanifin over the last two seasons. I'd say that's a good return for a 3rd rounder.



If the Flames can re-sign him, I wonder if this sets the stage for a Hanifin trade in the off season

Itse
02-24-2020, 02:16 PM
Not crazy about spending a 3rd on a rental in what seems like a pretty off year for the team.

Not crazy about having so many UFA d-men.

But, I'm also not crazy about our mix of defensemen before the trade, and Gustafson is intriguing. Good age too, if he ends up signing here.

Wait and see I guess.

ForeverFlameFan
02-24-2020, 02:20 PM
Excited about this trade.

Gus can help with PP2.

You Need a Thneed
02-24-2020, 02:21 PM
Still nothing from TSN.

tvp2003
02-24-2020, 02:21 PM
Sooooooo…

Gio - Brodie
Hanifin - Andersson
Forbort - Gustafsson
Kylington, Stone

This looks better than what we had yesterday. And if Gustafsson can improve our PP, even better.

djsFlames
02-24-2020, 02:23 PM
A few years ago new acquisition Shlemko scored a biggie in Boston in their post-deadline game.

Excited to see if Gus can make a similar entrance.

Johnny Makarov
02-24-2020, 02:23 PM
Excited about this trade.

Gus can help with PP2.

:bag:

foshizzle11
02-24-2020, 02:29 PM
Sooooooo…

Gio - Brodie
Hanifin - Andersson
Forbort - Gustafsson
Kylington, Stone

This looks better than what we had yesterday. And if Gustafsson can improve our PP, even better.

I agree, this is better than yesterday and we didn't have to give up a whole lot to make the team a bit better.

Those both 2 spots are up for grabs from whoever is playing well.

Next season, we have a guarantee to have the following:

Gio - Anderson
Hanifin - ?
Kylington - Valimaki

Stone...Brodie and/or Hamonic are gone.

So, maybe Gus works out over the last few months and we re-sign him. There are a lot of options and hopefully this works out. I do like getting a heavy guy like Forbort in here, hopefully he isn't slow.

Knut
02-24-2020, 02:30 PM
https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2020/02/21/chicago-blackhawks-nhl-trade-deadline-nhl-trade-rumors-erik-gustafsson/

What he provides. You are not going to get a traditional top-pairing defenseman that will give you a shutdown role or the type of player you want playing 25 minutes a night against the other team’s best forwards. He will, however, give you a lot of offense from the blue line, especially if you put him into situations where he can focus on the offensive side of the puck. He will probably never duplicate the 17-goal, 60-point performance from the 2018-19 season, but he is still a productive player that should be good for around 10 goals and 30-35 points over an 82-game season with good possession numbers from the blue line. Not a superstar by any means, but a darn good second-pairing option for a playoff team.

This goes along with Kent Wilson's post about him having metrics similar to Hanifin.

But Steinberg saying Gustafsson can play the right side.

I wonder about

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Andersson
Kylington - Gustafsson
Forbort - Yelesin
- Stone

Injured: Hamonic

Not playing: Valimaki (good, not eligible for expansion draft)

That would be a tire fire in our own zone.. lol

He will probably play with Forbort.

sureLoss
02-24-2020, 02:31 PM
official

condition is the Blackhawks will recieve the earlier of Calgary's 3rd rounders this year

Chicago Blackhawks @NHLBlackhawks
now
TRADE ALERT: The #Blackhawks have acquired a third-round pick in the 2020 #NHLDraft from Calgary in exchange for defenseman Erik Gustafsson.

Chicago will receive the earlier of Calgary’s two third-round picks in the 2020 #NHLDraft.

Johnny Makarov
02-24-2020, 02:32 PM
official

condition is the Blackhawks will recieve the earlier of Calgary's 3rd rounders this year

Chicago Blackhawks @NHLBlackhawks
now
TRADE ALERT: The #Blackhawks have acquired a third-round pick in the 2020 #NHLDraft from Calgary in exchange for defenseman Erik Gustafsson.

Chicago will receive the earlier of Calgary’s two third-round picks in the 2020 #NHLDraft.

Is that factoring in the Oilers? or do we already have 2?

ah123
02-24-2020, 02:33 PM
official

condition is the Blackhawks will recieve the earlier of Calgary's 3rd rounders this year

Chicago Blackhawks @NHLBlackhawks
now
TRADE ALERT: The #Blackhawks have acquired a third-round pick in the 2020 #NHLDraft from Calgary in exchange for defenseman Erik Gustafsson.

Chicago will receive the earlier of Calgary’s two third-round picks in the 2020 #NHLDraft.



Does Calgary have 2 third round picks?

ComixZone
02-24-2020, 02:33 PM
Is that factoring in the Oilers? or do we already have 2?

That's including the potential Oilers pick.

TheScorpion
02-24-2020, 02:33 PM
Starting to get excited about this acquisition. He's not a forward, but he can score like one if need be.

OK Tre, your grade over the last two years is up to a C-minus. But no higher until I see what Forbort is made of!

sureLoss
02-24-2020, 02:34 PM
Is that factoring in the Oilers? or do we already have 2?

That would be factoring in the Oilers pick.

Nelson
02-24-2020, 02:34 PM
Okay, that's not an overly onerous condition.

The Cobra
02-24-2020, 02:34 PM
That would be a tire fire in our own zone.. lol

He will probably play with Forbort.

Correct.

Gustafsson had offensive zones starts of 65% this year.

He's not someone you trust in his own end.

rohara66
02-24-2020, 02:36 PM
That would be a tire fire in our own zone.. lol

He will probably play with Forbort.


Was just about to quote the same thing. That would be all kinds of bad!

Nelson
02-24-2020, 02:36 PM
Correct.

Gustafsson had offensive zones starts of 65% this year.

He's not someone you trust in his own end.

I'm assuming you mean 56% right?

Flames Draft Watcher
02-24-2020, 02:39 PM
I'm assuming you mean 56% right?

Why would you assume that?

The Cobra
02-24-2020, 02:39 PM
I'm assuming you mean 56% right?

I was relying upon a text from a friend, he said 65%, is it actually 56%?

Nelson
02-24-2020, 02:40 PM
Why would you assume that?

His OZS% is 55.9%. I was just assuming he made a typo and put the 6 in front of the 5 instead of the 5 in front of the 6.

Nelson
02-24-2020, 02:42 PM
That would be a tire fire in our own zone.. lol

He will probably play with Forbort.

You're right. That was a stupid idea by me. I just really didn't want Kylington to sit, but I think the downside of having Kylington - Gustafsson would probably be so bad that it would be better to just have Kylington eat popcorn.