Isles acquire Pageau for 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and conditional 2022 3rd

[sureLoss]

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
NYI and OTT working to finalize a trade for Jean Gabriel Pageau.

Bruce Garrioch @SunGarrioch
The #Sens a first in 2020, a second in 2020 and a third in 2022 in exchange for Pageau from the Isles. There are conditions on all picks. #TradeCentre

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
Pageau to Isles for a 1st in 2020 that shifts to a 1st in 2021 if the Isles pick in top 3 of the June Draft. No conditions on 2nd round pick in 2020. Conditional 3rd if the Isles win the Stanley Cup this year only.

[TheScorpion]

I identified a 3C as one of the Islanders' top needs heading into today

Wouldn't be surprised if they paid a pretty penny to fill that void.

[sureLoss]

Dreger says his Sens source says it is for "a lot"

[Vinny01]

Glad the Oil didn’t get him

[Toonage]

Dreger with those insider terms

[agulati]

Glad he stays in the East. JG Pageau could have helped out many teams in the west, including Edmonton.

[sureLoss]

Bruce Garrioch @SunGarrioch
The #Sens a first in 2020, a second in 2020 and a third in 2022 in exchange for Pageau from the Isles. There are conditions on all picks. #TradeCentre

[KootenayFlamesFan]

A 1st, 2nd and 3rd? Wow, that seems steep.

[Erick Estrada]

Wow that's crazy overpayment.

[Makarov]

Bruce Garrioch @SunGarrioch
The #Sens a first in 2020, a second in 2020 and a third in 2022 in exchange for Pageau from the Isles. There are conditions on all picks. #TradeCentre

Have to wait to see the conditions but that sounds... expensive.

[transplant99]

Jeezuz christ....Lou paying a premium.

[TheScorpion]

That's insane. Great trade by Dorion.

[Sylvanfan]

I would guess 1st is lottery protected. Second is if he signs his next contract with Isles and third is based on how far they get in playoffs.

[Huntingwhale]

Damn good trade for the Sens. Like, real good.

[sureLoss]

Dreger says the 1st is top 3 lottery protected.
No conditions on 2nd
3rd is conditional on the Isles winning the cup otherwise nothing

[agulati]

Holy overpayment. No wonder sens take that deal, even if they were close to an extension.

[loob job]

Is Millbury back with the Isles?

[Nelson]

Wow. That was awesome work by the Senators. Their prospect pool is about to get even stronger. They have a lot of picks.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

So that 3rd rounder won't happen.

Still, a 1st and 2nd are still solid picks.

[Yoho]

Did the Sens do this well on the Mark Stone trade??

[kukkudo]

Wow

[TheScorpion]

Isles down the middle now

Barzal
Nelson
Pageau
Brassard
Cizikas

NYI has 4 firsts and 7 2nds in the next 2 years.

[transplant99]

No condition on the 2nd....1st switches to next year if a top 3 this year...3rd only if Isles win the cup.

[Mass_nerder]

That's a crazy payment on the surface. It seems like this guy really came out of nowhere this year, on a bad Sens team. I may be guilty in being pretty ignorant about Ottawa's players, so maybe he's been good for a few years.

[Toonage]

Man alive

[Flash Walken]

Did the Sens do this well on the Mark Stone trade??

I'd say the return is about the same.

Brannstrom = 1st
2nd = 2nd

wildcard is the conditional 3rd, but if they win the cup who cares.

[agulati]

The likelihood of the 3rd is quite low, but even a 1st and 2nd for Pageau is quite a haul.

[sureLoss]

Just for reference the Isles could have signed an RFA to an offer sheet this past summer for a 2020 1st, 2nd, and 3rd if the AAV was between $6,341,153-$8,454,871.

[SuperMatt18]

Did the Sens do this well on the Mark Stone trade??

I feel like this trade and the Coleman trade are both possibly better returns than what Stone returned last year (both are close or better to the Hall trade return too)

[agulati]

I feel like this trade and the Coleman trade are both possibly better returns than what Stone returned last year (both are close or better to the Hall trade return too)
Agree with this. Coleman at least has a year remaining at a great cap hit. Make me nervous if the flames are interested in someone with term, if the prices are this high.

[oldschoolcalgary]

could have got him last year for a 2nd or 3rd probably

with the prices being paid, i would be leery of making any moves

[d_phaneuf]

I'd say the return is about the same.

Brannstrom = 1st
2nd = 2nd

wildcard is the conditional 3rd, but if they win the cup who cares.

Brannstrom was a top 15ish prospect at the time

The pick is likely in then 16-22 range

Stones return was better, this is a great return though

[Dx54]

Wow. An over payment I wouldn't have made. Good for Sens.

[d_phaneuf]

Sens could have two top 5 picks and another on late teens

Dorion has done a great rebuild job

[Galakanokis]

Jesus, what a return. I really like JGP but holy overpayment Batman.

[Anduril]

Stone is definitely better by nature of getting Brannstrom.

Coleman looks great on its own but that would be for a top 9 20 goal scorer at a ridiculously low cap price with an extra year compared to UFAs. Different deals.

[Textcritic]

Sens could have two top 5 picks and another on late teens

Dorion has done a great rebuild jobLet's not get ahead of ourselves. He has done a good job getting the raw materials necessary for a rebuild, but he still has to turn all of these into a competitive team before the rebuild can be assessed.

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[Flash Walken]

Brannstrom was a top 15ish prospect at the time

The pick is likely in then 16-22 range

Stones return was better, this is a great return though

true

[GullFoss]

If these are the types of prices today, I hope we can get a first for Hamonic

[jg13]

Awful by Lamoriello. If I was Treliving i'd be offering him everything we have to see what he's willing to pay.

[MrMike]

We would be calling for Tres head if he paid that. Wow good haul for Ottawa

[Nelson]

We would be calling for Tres head if he paid that. Wow good haul for Ottawa

Agreed.

[stang]

Glad the Oil didn’t get him

Me too

[TheScorpion]

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[Roof-Daddy]

Good grief did the Sens ever cash in on a career year from Pageau at the right time.

[Buff]

I'm not sure if the cost to aquire Pageau is going to increase the prices for other rentals or if GMs buying are just going to say "Lou is senile, I'm not overpaying for your player like he overpaid for Pageau".

[TheScorpion]

sounds like the Isles really want to keep Pageau

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[sureLoss]

because the Isles acquire him before the deadline, they could offer him a 8 year deal

Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
Islanders and Pageau's camp are indeed in extension conversations right now ... we shall see where it goes

[ForeverFlameFan]

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If true, I suppose that explains the hefty price.

[Mattman]

Would Backlund get that much?

[Flash Walken]

Would Backlund get that much?

He probably would have 3 years ago

[Erick Estrada]

Is this a player you commit to for more than 4 years? At 27 years old this is probably his career season.

[sureLoss]

Pageau was reportedly asking for 5 years @ $5mil AAV+ from the Sens

[Flash Walken]

Is this a player you commit to for more than 4 years? At 27 years old this is probably his career season.

it all depends on the AAV.

[Textcritic]

Is this a player you commit to for more than 4 years? At 27 years old this is probably his career season.
But he is not going to fall off of a cliff. Pageau may never improve on his totals this year, but he is a good bet to be a long-term 45-point player, and that's still really valuable.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Pageau was reportedly asking for 5 years @ $5mil AAV+ from the Sens

Cripes. I would have given that without much thought. He's worth at least that much if not more on the open market, and 5 years is a pretty fair ask.

[Scroopy Noopers]

He’s somehow +10 on that garbage team, with over 100 hits. I really like this player, not surprised at the return. Great haul though.

[sureLoss]

David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
Hearing the Islanders & Pageau are finalizing a long-term contract extension.

[TheScorpion]

yup sounds like JG is there to stay

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[JurassicTunga12]

The price they paid makes a bit more sense

[GioforPM]

It's more like the Stone one. I just think when you do that move you hand the leverage over to the player in the extension negotiation.

[united]

While that price is massive, Pageau is an outstanding underrated disciplined two-way player who plays well above his size and who will help the Islanders tremendously. Have to think they knew an extension was a formality when they paid that. Nice piece of work, but still don't think the Islanders make it deep.

Was hoping the Flames would take a run at him, but obviously not in that range.

[Buff]

Get the extension done now, so they can determine if they can complete the trade for Parise.

[TheScorpion]

Pageau signs a six-year extension per the club

https://www.nhl.com/islanders/news/pageau-signs-six-year-extension/c-315482770

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