The Official 16/17 UEFA Champion's League and International Club News Thread

[GirlySports]

Time for a new thread?

I really enjoy the early parts of Europa and CL qualification. You get introduced to teams that you never hear from

Today Celtic play Lincoln Red Imps. Red Imps are the champions (for the 14th straight year) of the Gibraltar Premier Division, founded in 1976, and the 5000 seat stadium is on Winston Churchill Avenue. Going down the Gibraltar football wikipedia rabbit hole you find teams like F.C. Magpies (A.K.A Bruno's Magpies) and F.C. Hound Dogs.

Bruno's are the first club in Gibraltar to have a matchday programme and serve Beers and Burgers

Hound Dog Badge

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b8/F.C._Hound_Dogs_logo.png/220px-F.C._Hound_Dogs_logo.png


There is also a team called Manchester 62 (which was previously called Manchester United)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/Manchester_62_FC_badge.png

[Locke]

Did Manchester United get relegated? Finally!

[M*A*S*H 4077]

And the Red Imps are up 1-0!

[GirlySports]

LOL

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/live-celtic-visit-lincoln-red-8407246

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article8407502.ece/ALTERNATES/s510b/JS94795123.jpg

[Senator Clay Davis]

Red Imps win lol. Holy crap it's amazing to think Brendan Rogers was 1 game from being a champion PL manager and now he's here...

[FireGilbert]

A few hilarious facts I've found when google searching the Red Imps:

-The goal scorer is a policeman
-Another player was driving a taxi hours before the game
-The coach got the job by winning a contest
-Their average crowd is 42
-They cannot practise on Tuesdays because their field is used by a metal detecting club

[GirlySports]

The Northern Ireland champions are these guys

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5d/Crusaders_F.C._logo.png

They are up against Copenhagen.

[devo22]

Borussia Dortmund continue their crazy squad overhaul by bringing Mario Götze back from Bayern Munich. So far:

out: Mats Hummels, Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Ilkay Gündogan, Neven Subotic
in: Mario Götze, Ousmane Dembele, Raphael Guerreiro, Sebastian Rode, Marc Bartra, Emre Mor, Mikel Merino

Plus they are close to buying Andre Schürrle for some reason ... and they are still negotiating with Leverkusen for Ömer Toprak.

[Locke]

Borussia Dortmund continue their crazy squad overhaul by bringing Mario Götze back from Bayern Munich. So far:

out: Mats Hummels, Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Ilkay Gündogan, Neven Subotic
in: Mario Götze, Ousmane Dembele, Raphael Guerreiro, Sebastian Rode, Marc Bartra, Emre Mor, Mikel Merino

Plus they are close to buying Andre Schürrle for some reason ... and they are still negotiating with Leverkusen for Ömer Toprak.

Damn...they are going to be a force to be reckoned with next season if they land Schurrle. Those are all really good signings but they still need goals and they likely arent going to come from Gotze.

[d_phaneuf]

a lot to integrate though, could see a small step back next year than a big push after

[Locke]

a lot to integrate though, could see a small step back next year than a big push after

I could see that too, but a consolidation of power in the German league might make it easier for them, its the CL where they might stumble.

[devo22]

I love most of their signings, but Schürrle is a big head scratcher. He has to be the most overrated player over the last few years ... clubs pay huge fees and he always disappoints, yet the next club pays even more money. Apparently he's going to cost Dortmund close to €35m, which is absolutely ridiculous.

Also I wouldn't expect too much of them next season. That's just a lot of turnover ... they've lost 3 of their best players and have brought in a lot of very young and raw players. Top 4 is pretty much a guarantee in Germany, but I wouldn't bet on them being the runner-up.

[d_phaneuf]

I could see that too, but a consolidation of power in the German league might make it easier for them, its the CL where they might stumble.

oh ya I mean like to 2nd or 3rd, maybe struggle in group stages

but it seems they are building now to compete with the next generation of Bayern and maybe push for the title starting in 2018, smart strategy

[Locke]

Bad news on Demba Ba.

Shanghai Shenhua coach Gregorio Manzano is concerned Demba Ba may not recover from the horrific leg break he suffered against Shanghai SIPG FC on Sunday.http://www.espnfc.us/chinese-super-league/story/2913944/shanghai-shenhua-coach-fears-end-of-demba-bas-career-following-leg-break

[GirlySports]

poor Red Imps

[Locke]

Germany international striker Mario Gomez is leaving Turkish club Besiktas due to the political instability the country is experiencing.

"It was a difficult decision that I had to think about a lot. I have to tell you Besiktas fans personally that it is very heavy for me that I will not be playing for this great club in front of you wonderful fans in this unique stadium anymore," Gomez stated, before citing the instability in the country.http://www.espnfc.us/turkish-super-lig/story/2915105/mario-gomez-leaves-besiktas-because-of-turkeys-political-instability

Mario makes the political call.

[devo22]

great call. Plus he's too good for the Turkish league anyway, I'm sure he'd be a fantastic signing for a midtable club in Germany or even England. Only 31, he surely has plenty of miles left in the tank. Too bad that Stuttgart got relegated, I'd have loved him back there.

[Locke]

great call. Plus he's too good for the Turkish league anyway, I'm sure he'd be a fantastic signing for a midtable club in Germany or even England. Only 31, he surely has plenty of miles left in the tank. Too bad that Stuttgart got relegated, I'd have loved him back there.

Well...Borussia and Bayern need goals....:ph34r:

But you're right, a mid-table club is more at his level these days.

Maybe Liverpool.:bag:

[devo22]

please no, watching him at Bayern was painful enough :D

I actually think Wolfsburg would be a great fit for him, they need firepower. Bas Dost has been unhappy there for a while and they've already canned Bendtner (surprise surprise) ... unless they somehow keep Dost, that only leaves them with Real loanee Borja Majoral up front. Wages surely wouldn't be a problem either.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Bayern beat City 1-0 in Pep's return to the Allianz today. I love that his return match happened in a meaningless exhibition rather than a CL match.

I've also changed my tune on his time at Bayern. He made them the most dominant team in Bundesliga history and took them to the CL semi finals. That's pretty a pretty successful reign at any club

[Locke]

Bayern beat City 1-0 in Pep's return to the Allianz today. I love that his return match happened in a meaningless exhibition rather than a CL match.

I've also changed my tune on his time at Bayern. He made them the most dominant team in Bundesliga history and took them to the CL semi finals. That's pretty a pretty successful reign at any club

That depends on the standards. If you wan walk through the domestic league then obviously the standards for the CL are going to be higher.

They could have had the same run (or better) with me in charge. The CL was the whole point. ;)

[Addick]

http://www.espnfc.us/turkish-super-lig/story/2915105/mario-gomez-leaves-besiktas-because-of-turkeys-political-instability

Mario makes the political call.

Oh no! He may not be the striker Arsenal supporters want but he's looks the bargain Wenger needs...

[devo22]

as always in late July, there's lots of interesting friendlies coming up as part of the International Champions Cup. Manchester United v Borussia Dortmund is starting in an hour, plus loads of other European top teams are in action in the coming days (Barcelona, Real, Atletico, Juventus, Bayern, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Leicester, Tottenham, Paris, Inter, Milan).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_International_Champions_Cup

[Senator Clay Davis]

Preseason sure, but pretty slick nonetheless.

https://vine.co/v/5mbLjmA6ZIz

[devo22]

not a good game ... pitch was a disaster and the weather didn't help. Both teams were quite poor I thought, though it was obvious that Dortmund played their 5th game of the preseason while it was only the 2nd for United. First goal was poor from Johnstone, second one a harsh penalty after a Valencia handball. Dembele and Castro with two strikes of genius in the second half. Good for Mkhitaryan to score against his former team and good for Shaw to complete a full 90 minutes.

Jones and Rojo were a total disaster at centre back. Bailly was good.

[cam_wmh]

Didn't see it mentioned, but in their return leg, Celtic beat the Red Imps 3-0 (3-1 Agg), to move on.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36779857

[cam_wmh]

Had to look this one up. There's a second, younger Moussa Dembele on Celtic.

Heart skipped a beat for you, Diane.

[rubecube]

Lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn--VKDWAAAfkWw.jpg

[devo22]

seems like Juventus are indeed buying Gonzalo Higuain from Napoli ... for €94m. Yes, you've read that right - that's his buyout clause. Second most expensive transfer of all time for now (since the Pogba deal still isn't official yet).

[CroFlames]

Sometimes I just shake my head at the way big clubs do business. I can readily admit when Europeans do things better than N Americans (no tipping, relegation) but one they they suck at is parity and equality among clubs.

[Senator Clay Davis]

It's the paradox of American/European sports. America, home of capitalism, has it with most of its major sports being pure socialism, salary caps and revenue sharing and drafts. Europe, home to socialism, has basically pure capitalism with sports, money always wins and there are no rules to stop the big clubs from dominating.

[GirlySports]

American sports is a monopoly. Parity within the league and the league doesn't have to play other leagues. It's just playing with yourself.

In soccer if you have parity in your own league, that champion isn't going to beat anyone.

[Luder]

Schweinsteiger retired from the German National team today :(

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/29/bastian-schweinsteiger-announces-retirement-from-international-football-germany

Sounds like his days with Man U are numbered as well

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36921706

[CroFlames]

It's too bad. But good for him for recognizing the end is near and hanging them up before some shameful attempt at hanging on. I hate when a classy player nears the end and clings on and blames others.

All the best Basti.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Danke fussballgott!

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13653255_1194200377299473_548610459675941328_o.jpg

[CroFlames]

Danke fussballgott!

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13653255_1194200377299473_548610459675941328_o.jpg

Insert Nazi joke here:

[Locke]

Schweinsteiger retired from the German National team today :(

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/29/bastian-schweinsteiger-announces-retirement-from-international-football-germany

Sounds like his days with Man U are numbered as well

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36921706

Fair enough. Time to hang them up. Hes often-injured and hes given everything to the German National team and you can tell the years and the games have worn him down.

Time to get healthy and enjoy your life. I like to think I'd like that, leave a top country and club and go play somewhere fun.

[GirlySports]

just got married too

[CroFlames]

Time to get healthy and enjoy your life. I like to think I'd like that, leave a top country and club and go play somewhere fun.

just got married too


Go play in the Serbian 2nd division?

http://www.brides.com/blogs/aisle-say/ana-ivanovic-bastian-schweinsteiger-wedding-main.jpg

[Locke]

Go play in the Serbian 2nd division?

http://www.brides.com/blogs/aisle-say/ana-ivanovic-bastian-schweinsteiger-wedding-main.jpg

Sure. If you want to get stabbed or shot.

I was thinking more like Greece or something. Play, get paid (hopefully) and chill out on luxurious beaches with your wife.

[SuperMatt18]

He made them the most dominant team in Bundesliga history and took them to the CL semi finals. That's pretty a pretty successful reign at any club

They had a better domestic point total and goal differential, plus won the Champions League (actually were the first German team to ever win the treble), the season before Pep took over there.

If anything they stayed the same with Pep, or took a step back since they didn't win the CL in any of his three seasons there.

Especially considering they spent a lot of money to poach their biggest rivals talent once Pep showed up.

[nik-]

Mucho gusto Marco Asensio

https://streamable.com/xfgu

[Locke]

Messi reverses International retirement.

Lionel Messi has announced his return to Argentina's national team, ending his short-lived retirement from international football.

Messi, 29, called it quits after missing a penalty in the shootout defeat to Chile in this summer's Copa America Centenario final -- the third consecutive loss for Argentina in a major final.http://www.espnfc.us/argentina/story/2928133/lionel-messi-to-make-argentina-return-after-brief-international-retirement

[Senator Clay Davis]

I wonder if Ronaldo winning Euro helped change his mind at all.

[d_phaneuf]

it was never going to last

they wanted the coach fired, it was a power play

[Locke]

it was never going to last

they wanted the coach fired, it was a power play

Tata Martino? I thought they were friends actually.

[devo22]

Sergio Agüero has missed two penalties in a span of minutes. Wonder how Resurrection is going to spin this :D

[Senator Clay Davis]

^ That he would have scored 5 if he could make penalties? A hat trick with two penalty misses has to be about as rare as it gets.

[White Out 403]

Sergio Agüero has missed two penalties in a span of minutes. Wonder how Resurrection is going to spin this :D

What a shameful hat trick.

[Senator Clay Davis]

The great Irish hope...

Dundalk FCVerified account ‏@DundalkFC 10h10 hours ago
Good morning everybody. Tonight we are playing in a @ChampionsLeague Play-Off against @LegiaWarszawa at the @AVIVAStadium. Bloody hell...

https://twitter.com/DundalkFC/status/765813623688159232

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Sounds like Mario Gomez to Wolfsburg is done. Great pickup

[devo22]

Sounds like Mario Gomez to Wolfsburg is done. Great pickup
called it. Makes a lot of sense for both sides, great to see him back in the Bundesliga!

[devo22]

Sevillas post-Emery-era could be a lot of fun ... their first game under Sampaoli was a 6-4 win over Espanyol.

[nik-]

https://streamable.com/n8r9

dat pass though

[GirlySports]

Celtic are so going to screw this up

[Senator Clay Davis]

Dundalk might not make it through, but they produced one of the goals of the early season

https://cdn.streamable.com/video/mp4-mobile/wwu3.mp4

[devo22]

Roma are down 1-0 vs Porto and now De Rossi is sent off. Not looking good for them.

[Slava]

Celtic are so going to screw this up

It's going to be hilarious though as evidenced by that second goal!

[devo22]

Celtic are so going to screw this up
2-0 now lol

too bad they missed a penalty in the first half

[Senator Clay Davis]

Roma are down 1-0 vs Porto and now De Rossi is sent off. Not looking good for them.

Emerson got a straight red too lol, down to nine men. Gonna need a miracle now.

[devo22]

Emerson got a straight red too lol, down to nine men. Gonna need a miracle now.
absolutely horrible tackle, the Porto guy was lucky not to suffer a nasty leg break.

[Senator Clay Davis]

England's coefficient is having a party after this result no doubt.

[devo22]

Dundalk still have a chance ... they need one more to force OT and Legia is down a man.

Hapoel Sheva also still in it, one more goal and Celtic is out ...

Porto now up 3-0 vs Roma.

[polak]

Woohoo Legia is in! First time a Polish team is in the Champions League. Been a good resurgence in Polish Football this year.

(We have had teams play in the defunct Championship Cup or whatever)

[SuperMatt18]

Pissed at Rome for that ridiculous effort - I will be in Rome for one of the Champions League matchdays so there was the potential to catch a game if the draw worked out.

You have the advantage going home with the away goal and you completely implode.

Concede 8 minutes in, and then two red cards within the first 40 minutes.

That team just always seems to lose their head in big matches.

[devo22]

Some things just never change. Salzburg are up 1-0 at home vs Zagreb after a 1-1 draw in the away match, then concede a goal in the 87th minute and then another one in extra time. This team just can't get into the CL, it's beyond comical by now. They are about to crash out in the playoffs for the 9th time in a row. Unbelievable.

[GirlySports]

needs a hug button

[White Out 403]

So happy for Zagreb! My Dad landed a few hours before the game and watched the game with family. Thrilled to see them pull it out 2-1! Way to go Dinamo!

[CroFlames]

Some things just never change. Salzburg are up 1-0 at home vs Zagreb after a 1-1 draw in the away match, then concede a goal in the 87th minute and then another one in extra time. This team just can't get into the CL, it's beyond comical by now. They are about to crash out in the playoffs for the 9th time in a row. Unbelievable.

Dinamo is a solid club these days and Croatia seems to have a never ending factory of soccer talent. It's baffling, actually.

It's crappy though that the corrupt brass running the club will just get richer instead of reinvesting in the club, or the Croatia FA forcing some type of revenue sharing among Croatian clubs.

[Luder]

The CL pool draw is currently on if anyone is bored

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2017/draws/round=2000783/index.html

[GirlySports]

Group A
Paris SG
Arsenal
Basel
Ludogorets

Group B
Benfica
Napoli
Dynamo Kiev
Besiktas

Group C
Barcelona
Manchester City
Monchengladbach
Celtic


Group D
Bayern Munich
Athletico Madrid
PSV Eindhoven
Rostov

Group E
CSKA Moscow
Leverkusen
Tottenham Hotspurs
Monaco

Group F
Real Madrid
Dortmund
Sporting Lisbon
Legia Warsaw (ouch)

Group G
Leicester
Porto
Club Brugge
Copenhagen

Group H
Juve
Sevilla
Lyon
Dynamo Zagreb

will keep updating

[SuperMatt18]

Group F shaping up to be a killer already.

Lol as Man City once again get Barca or Bayern Munich (Edit: and it ends up being Barca)

[polak]

Hoping for Group G or Group E for Legia....

I mean either way we will probably finish last but still.

[Pagal4321]

PSG/Arsenal isn't a bad draw so far.

[Senator Clay Davis]

City gets the Barcelona group death sentence.

[SuperMatt18]

Good draw for Tottenham in that they didn't get one of the "big" teams.

Had they went into group D that would have been deadly.

[Senator Clay Davis]

For sure, very easy group for Spurs. Group B looks awful.

[devo22]

man that sucks for Gladbach.

[polak]

####ing ####ers.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Great draws for Arsenal, Spurs and especially Leicester. City continues to be cursed with draws in UCL.

[GirlySports]

Celtic ouch

[polak]

At least Legia will get in the record books.... as the side that Ronaldo scored the most goals by a single player in a match in history.

[nik-]

This works for me.

[Senator Clay Davis]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CquFfxEWAAAzLWR.jpg:large

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Group C is nasty. There are some pretty good match ups across the groups. Looking forward to playing Atletico early, lets see what Bayern is made of

[SuperMatt18]

Like the draws for the Italian teams.

Will be interesting to see the Europa League draw tomorrow as well.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Speaking of Europa League draw, that's kinda what Groups B and G look like, Europa League groups.

[nik-]

I don't really see group C as nasty at all. One great team one good team. It's a pretty decent balance across the groups overall. Spurs seem to have the easiest group.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Maybe I rate Gladbach higher than most but I can see them causing some troubles for City, though City should still advance. Nasty is probably a gross overstatement on my part but at first glance I think it is the toughest group

Edit:I do agree with you Nik that the balance across the board is fairly equal this year

[d_phaneuf]

Spurs get their match in Russia in September which is big too, playing there in November/December wouldnt be fun

[White Out 403]

Ill be shocked if Dinamo even gets a draw. What an insane group. On the plus side, City should advance handily as everyone else should be decimated by Barca.

edit: Kyiv has no excuses... that should be a very doable group for them

[devo22]

West Ham again doing a great job for the English coefficient I see. Cowards.

[VladtheImpaler]

Pretty happy - DK has a good shot and LFC probably got the softest draw of all, though I may be underestimating Brugge.

[CroFlames]

Ill be shocked if Dinamo even gets a draw. What an insane group. On the plus side, City should advance handily as everyone else should be decimated by Barca.

edit: Kyiv has no excuses... that should be a very doable group for them

Watch them beat Juve by 2, but then get pummeled by everyone else haha.

Tuff group for sure.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Bayern opens their season this year, playing very direct and a beautiful half volley strike from 25 yards out from Alonso opens up the scoring!

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Bremen has been dreadful and their keeper Wiedwald is the only reason Bayern doesn't have 5 or 6, he has been fantastic

[GirlySports]

The True European tournament this year. Notice who is listed first ;)



GROUP A
Manchester United
Fenerbahce
Feyenoord
Zorya Luhansk

GROUP B
Olympiakos
APOEL
Young Boys
FK Astana

GROUP C
Anderlecht
St Etienne
Mainz
FK Qabala

GROUP D
Zenit St Petersburg
AZ Alkmaar
Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Dundalk

GROUP E
Viktoria Plzen
AS Roma
Austria Vienna
Astra Giurgiu

GROUP F
Athletic Bilbao
Genk
Rapid Vienna
Sassuolo

GROUP G
Ajax
Standard Liege
Celta Vigo
Panathinaikos

GROUP H
Shakhtar Donetsk
Braga
Gent
Konyaspor

GROUP I
Schalke
Salzburg
Krasnodar
Nice

GROUP J
Fiorentina
PAOK
Slovan Liberec
FK Qarabag

GROUP K
Inter Milan
Sparta Prague
Southampton
Hapoel Beer-Sheva

GROUP L
Villarreal
Steaua Bucharest
FC Zurich
Osmanlispor

[Bagor]

van Persie gets to go back to two of his former clubs.

[cam_wmh]

van Persie gets to go back to two of his former clubs.

Aw don't tease him.

[devo22]

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/14089007_10153660673602447_4046940668197864765_n.j pg?oh=97322b5c36247f3accc84ad56a673326&oe=585A3F22

In comparison to the Euro squad, Milner, Bertrand, Barkley, Wilshere and Rashford are out. Michail Antonio is in for the first time, while Shaw, Walcott, Drinkwater and Jagielka are back in. No idea how Walcott makes it over Barkley, but oh well.

[GirlySports]

Frank McCourt has bought Olympique Marseille. A club and city notorious for being unmanageable. This the guy who owned the Dodgers and had to sell the team to settle his divorce.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Zenit St. Petersburg has been offered €6.8 million to change it's name to Zenit Burger King. That seems like a pretty low offer, but hopefully they accept.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Welcome back Champions League. Man City-Mönchengladbach has been postponed because it's raining like mad in Manchester.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Arsenal down a goal within 45 seconds lol. Some things never change.

[Slava]

6-0 at this point for Barca over Celtic.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I'm sure Arsenal fans were wondering why Ospina was in for Cech, but he's been great today for them. Cavani on the other hand....

[GirlySports]

6-0 at this point for Barca over Celtic.

Celtic missed a penalty when it was 1-0. Could have changed everything ;)

[SuperMatt18]

Champions League used to be better IMO.

Feel like with Barca, Madrid, and Bayern spending so much money since 2013 that the divide between the top 3 teams and the rest of the European pack has become huge.

[Locke]

Champions League used to be better IMO.

Feel like with Barca, Madrid, and Bayern spending so much money since 2013 that the divide between the top 3 teams and the rest of the European pack has become huge.

Well, I'd agree and disagree, I think a huge chunk of it has to do with the fact that English teams havent spent particularly well.

Besides, Juve, PSG and Atletico are consistently in the mix as well.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah lots playing into it for sure - doesn't help that from a development perspective that Spain/Germany are so far ahead it's not even fair. Causing their big domestic team to have a big advantage in attracting talent.

Plus then on top of the quality of "national players" you have Barca, Bayern, and Madrid spending a ton on the best foreign talent- and spending it smartly. They really have consolidated the true world class players (especially attacking players) on those 3 teams.

Italian football overall has taken a step back - with only Juve being a real threat at any point in time - and even they have a harder time keeping their best players. The Milan teams are shadows of their former selves, and Roma has never been a factor.

English football has seen a lot of poor spending and a lot of that is due to playing second fiddle to the big 3 mentioned on the transfer market. Can't get the true "stars" to come to England so are over-spending on great but not world class players, or younger players with potential.

German football had a bit of a resurgence - but Bayern spending and purchasing all the good german players ended that quickly.

I just feel like there used to be more intrigue watching this in the mid to late 00's - especially in the group stages.

[SuperMatt18]

In terms of today's performances it's interesting to see Kimmich score twice in one of his first starts as a deep lying holding midfielder for Bayern.

Played Right Back for Germany at the Euros and I think he played there for Bayern last year as well.

Could be interesting to see if they keep him in the middle.

[Slava]

Well, I'd agree and disagree, I think a huge chunk of it has to do with the fact that English teams havent spent particularly well.

Besides, Juve, PSG and Atletico are consistently in the mix as well.

Is it all spending though? I mean clearly that is a piece of it, but then you look at the Premier League and there is a lot of healthy competition there. There are probably 6-7 teams that are serious contenders for the top 4 and of those at least 4 who could make a reasonable case to win the league. Didn't Bayern win by some crushing amount last year though? So they can roll out the A side midweek for the Champions League without a huge concern and then roll through domestically for the most part.

[nik-]

Bayern haven't had anyone finish within 10 points of them in the last four seasons.

[GirlySports]

You had more big teams in the group stage too. This champions qualifying level really hurts the quality

[cam_wmh]

Is it all spending though? I mean clearly that is a piece of it, but then you look at the Premier League and there is a lot of healthy competition there. There are probably 6-7 teams that are serious contenders for the top 4 and of those at least 4 who could make a reasonable case to win the league. Didn't Bayern win by some crushing amount last year though? So they can roll out the A side midweek for the Champions League without a huge concern and then roll through domestically for the most part.

Sadly, I think Matt has a great point.

None of the English the clubs are way out front in terms of acquiring and developing players. Thus they have to spend, alot.

Depth is paramount in England, due to the domestic parity & think only City & United have the depth to play top football both domestically and in Europe with the same level of competitiveness. That's because they have oodles of money.

The money can't be forever though; not with mediocre results vs the spend.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I think United are unique though, they have such a massive worldwide following that the money will always be rolling in. I mean Depay had the number 1 selling jersey last year. Did he really deserve that title? Of course not, but United fans are plentiful and bought a lot of Memphis jerseys. I imagine Pogba and Zlatan will easily be 1-2 in jersey sales this year. And I mentioned it in the Prem League thread but I read United has at least 70 different sponsors. Will they lose some support if they go another couple years winning nothing besides FA Cups? Maybe, but I think it'd have to be a steep decline into a midtable club for that to happen.

[d_phaneuf]

going to be really strange watching a home side at Wembley tomorrow who play fast paced attacking football

[Locke]

Slovenia represent!

Aleksander Ceferin has been elected the new president of UEFA, beating Michael van Praag in the race to succeed Michel Platini.

Ceferin, who was appointed president of the Slovenian FA in 2011 and has a background in law, won 42 of the 55 votes at the Extraordinary UEFA Congress in Athens on Wednesday.

"My small and beautiful Slovenia is very proud about it and I hope one day you will also be very proud of me,"http://www.espnfc.us/blog/uefa/258/post/2950181/aleksander-ceferin-elected-uefa-president-and-succeeds-michel-platini

[Addick]

I'm sure Arsenal fans were wondering why Ospina was in for Cech, but he's been great today for them. Cavani on the other hand....

What are you talking about? Aside from scoring that early one, Cavani was brilliant for Arsenal!


Sadly, I think Matt has a great point.

None of the English the clubs are way out front in terms of acquiring and developing players. Thus they have to spend, alot.

Although they haven't spent the best, English clubs do have to pay a premium.

[cam_wmh]

Mourinho announced his 20 man squad vs Feyenoord.
Rooney, Shaw, Valencia, Jones, Mkhitaryan & Lingard stay home.

My 11


--------------- Rashford
----- Memphis Herrera Mata
-------- Schneiderlin Carrick
------ Rojo Smalling Baily Darmian
-------------- de Gea

[Senator Clay Davis]

Leicester and Man City both up within the first 8 minutes. Spurs well...you know lol.

[White Out 403]

Aguero is as handsome as he is talented. Fantastic start for City

[Senator Clay Davis]

Spurs lol. 2-0 Monaco.

[Locke]

Aguero is as handsome as he is talented. Fantastic start for City

This is getting weird now.

[nik-]

Madrid looking poor :confused:

[Locke]

Madrid looking poor :confused:

Sporting! :w00t:

[Senator Clay Davis]

Fill in the blank: Aguero hat trick makes Resurrection __________

[Senator Clay Davis]

Lol this is awesome

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsV1X3YVIAAQjw7.jpg

[nik-]

Ronaldo things

https://my.mixtape.moe/hthieo.mp4

[nik-]

rofl

[rubecube]

Spurs gonna Spurs.

[GirlySports]

anyone check on Polak?

[d_phaneuf]

Spurs gonna Spurs.

ya that was peak spurs

Monaco 2 half chances = 2 goals

[Slava]

Well it wasn't good for Spurs of course, but really they were a little unlucky here. Monaco took advantage of their two shots on goal in the first half. The first was a nice strike. The second the ball just fell perfectly and that's life. Tottenham looked really good for a stretch though, and just couldn't get the equaliser. I think Pochettino should've started Dembele, and he made a significant impact when he came on in the second half, but it was just one of those games I think.

I do think that in the reverse Spurs could easily come out on the other side of this score though. Monaco wasn't impressive for the most part.

[SuperMatt18]

Aguero is as handsome as he is talented. Fantastic start for City

I have to give Resurrection some credit.

For a guy who randomly picked a favorite team ~2 seasons ago - he has made the transition from casual fan to super creepy super fan really quickly.

[White Out 403]

I have to give Resurrection some credit.

For a guy who randomly picked a favorite team ~2 seasons ago - he has made the transition from casual fan to super creepy super fan really quickly.

Hardly random. I have direct family connections. Also, you're either super dense or god knows what to take my Aguero comments so serious. I imagine if I told you I made my wife dress like Sergio you would actually believe me?

Yikes. Just soccer guys. Don't be such tossers ;)

PS United sucks.

[SuperMatt18]

Hardly random. I have direct family connections. Also, you're either super dense or god knows what to take my Aguero comments so serious. I imagine if I told you I made my wife dress like Sergio you would actually believe me?

Yikes. Just soccer guys. Don't be such tossers ;)

PS United sucks.

My comments were meant to be tongue in cheek too - none of us actually think you are having dreams of Aguero in a speedo before you go to sleep at night.

In terms of the randomness though I thought it was just a Manchester connection and you picked City over United randomly? Am I wrong and there a direct family connection to Man City?

[devo22]

Rojo is so bad it's hilarious. Moreno would be proud of that performance.

[Senator Clay Davis]

United involved in the only Europa game currently without a goal. Are we sure Van Gaal isn't still managing?

[cam_wmh]

Horrible officiating.

[devo22]

Horrible officiating.
yup. United had it coming though. Terrible performance.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Since Jose doesn't even want to be in Europa League, I think he might actually not even complain about that call.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Zenit St. Petersburg (sadly not Burger King) was down 3-0 with 13 minutes to play, win 4-3 over Maccabi Tel Aviv. So someone is having a worse night than United fans.

[White Out 403]

My comments were meant to be tongue in cheek too - none of us actually think you are having dreams of Aguero in a speedo before you go to sleep at night.

In terms of the randomness though I thought it was just a Manchester connection and you picked City over United randomly? Am I wrong and there a direct family connection to Man City?

eh, all good.

I do have family connection to the city of Manchester, my grandfather was a huge soccer fan and player. Choosing between City and United was pretty random, because I have no way of knowing anymore who he preferred. So I did "pick". I guess I didn't want to be a big United fan over night because they're so heavily followed already and I kind of get annoyed with their fans/followers for it.

[Locke]

My comments were meant to be tongue in cheek too - none of us actually think you are having dreams of Aguero in a speedo before you go to sleep at night.

In terms of the randomness though I thought it was just a Manchester connection and you picked City over United randomly? Am I wrong and there a direct family connection to Man City?

https://media.giphy.com/media/UvwI1X7XkbXq0/giphy.gif

Rojo is so bad it's hilarious. Moreno would be proud of that performance.

https://media.giphy.com/media/UvwI1X7XkbXq0/giphy.gif

Ahhh....nope. Cant argue about that.

On another note, holy crap! Dirk Kuyt is still playing? Wow. That guy is a machine. Go Dirk, shine on you crazy diamond!

Since Jose doesn't even want to be in Europa League, I think he might actually not even complain about that call.

Yeah, I read the transcript of that interview and it seems pretty clear to me that Jose is going to do everything in his power to get United out of the Europa as soon as possible.

United shouldnt have a problem finishing in the Top 4 this season (after dropping that astonishing amount of transfer cash) so the Europa isnt as big a deal for them and Jose pretty much openly said that he considers The Europa league beneath him and United.

Jose was...customarily less than subtle on that point.

[Locke]

Zenit St. Petersburg (sadly not Burger King) was down 3-0 with 13 minutes to play, win 4-3 over Maccabi Tel Aviv. So someone is having a worse night than United fans.

Aw did they not take the money? Is the offer still on the table? I still think that would really differentiate Zenit and offer some unique brand identity to Russian football.

And the mascot opportunities just write themselves!

[Senator Clay Davis]

Lol, thanks for the pic Jose.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsbHRQhWIAEB9OG.jpg

[Locke]

Lol, thanks for the pic Jose.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsbHRQhWIAEB9OG.jpg

Whatever happened to the Caption Contest?

"The Horror! The HORROR!!!"

[Luder]

Whatever happened to the Caption Contest?

"The Horror! The HORROR!!!"

Dammit Basti! STAY HOME!!

[Senator Clay Davis]

Apparently this was when Feyenoord fans were singing YNWA after the match. That's some class taunting right there.

[Locke]

Dammit Basti! STAY HOME!!

"Dat ASS!!!"

[devo22]

it's actually just Jose doing his best Phil Jones impression.

[Luder]

EA brought Jose out for the announcement of FIFA 17 (I think), it was one of the most awkward things I've ever watched. Check it out if you're one of those people that when they feel embarrassed for something they watch on tv, they need to change the channel.

[Bagor]

Hardly random. I have direct family connections.
That supported United.

[Locke]

That supported United.

Everyone knows that there are no United fans in Manchester.

[White Out 403]

That supported United.

I said my family lived in Manchester. Not Trafford.

[nik-]

Cheer for whoever you want to for whatever reason you want.

I, as a Madrileño since birth, obviously cheer for Madrid.

Obviously.

[Bagor]

I said my family lived in Manchester. Not Trafford.
You said they supported United.

[White Out 403]

You said they supported United.

woosh.

[Slava]

I have to think that a lot of Mancunians supported United for a long time. City was nowhere near the Premiership (or 1st Div) for the better part of a couple decades.

[White Out 403]

I have to think that a lot of Mancunians supported United for a long time. City was nowhere near the Premiership (or 1st Div) for the better part of a couple decades.

Well, at the time my Grandparents were in Manchester it would have been just after the suspension of play for most teams due to the war. In all reality we really don't know who my Grandfather cheered for; my Mom was too young and my Grandmother died a long time ago. It's almost certain he was a United fan but he did try out for both clubs as a walk on. Who knows.

[Bagor]

woosh.
Nope. It wasn't that clever to be a whoosh.

Just don't do deflections.

Now where were we? Ah, yes. Your family were United fans.

[Slava]

Well, at the time my Grandparents were in Manchester it would have been just after the suspension of play for most teams due to the war. In all reality we really don't know who my Grandfather cheered for; my Mom was too young and my Grandmother died a long time ago. It's almost certain he was a United fan but he did try out for both clubs as a walk on. Who knows.

I would say most Canadians (North Americans in general) have fairly flimsy reasons to support PL teams. You at least have a connection historically (even if you selected the wrong side!)

[Bagor]

Aguero mancrush >>>>>> family

[White Out 403]

Nope. It wasn't that clever to be a whoosh.

Just don't do deflections.

Now where were we? Ah, yes. Your family were United fans.

Stiff upper lip, chap. I'm sure United will find a way to advance. (snicker) In the europa league.

[cam_wmh]

Well, at the time my Grandparents were in Manchester it would have been just after the suspension of play for most teams due to the war. In all reality we really don't know who my Grandfather cheered for; my Mom was too young and my Grandmother died a long time ago. It's almost certain he was a United fan but he did try out for both clubs as a walk on. Who knows.

Here's how Bagor & I remember it.

I'm planning a trip to see a soccer game in England sometime in the next year, any advice on where to go? My grandfather tried out as a walk on for Man U when he lived in Manchester so I was thinking that's a good starting point. Suggestions on where to get tickets? Will any game at old trafford be awesome or are there certain teams/games/nights more worthwhile?

[Bagor]

LOL!!

Busted!!

[Vulcan]

One of my grandmothers comes from Manchester so I kind of cheer for United though I think of them as the Yankees of the Premier League.

[White Out 403]

One of my grandmothers comes from Manchester so I kind of cheer for United though I think of them as the Yankees of the Premier League.

Everyone hates the Yankees.

[devo22]

Here's how Bagor & I remember it.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/popcorn_yes.gif

[Slava]

Well, at the time my Grandparents were in Manchester it would have been just after the suspension of play for most teams due to the war. In all reality we really don't know who my Grandfather cheered for; my Mom was too young and my Grandmother died a long time ago. It's almost certain he was a United fan but he did try out for both clubs as a walk on. Who knows.

So wait, did you actually plan and go to Old Trafford to see United, and then chose City? I have no idea how posters remember posts like that, and even under a different username, but I always find that hilarious!

[GirlySports]

posters remember everything :)

[Bagor]

Everyone hates the Yankees.
Meaning you were considering going to see them in NY at one time? :confused:

You're a strange little badger alright.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Somehow this was not called a hand ball

https://twitter.com/FutballVines/status/780849870211051520

[Locke]

Somehow this was not called a hand ball

https://twitter.com/FutballVines/status/780849870211051520

Obviously I didnt watch the match, but all of the comments about the gif say that it was outside the box, but yeah, definite hand ball.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Big win for Spurs, and Leicester can pretty much start focusing exclusively on CL.

[Senator Clay Davis]

This City/Celtic game has been really entertaining. 3-3 with 30 minutes left.

[GirlySports]

yeah lots of goals in general in today's matches

[cam_wmh]

Took a Scottish team, to end Pep's perfect start at Chitty.

[browna]

Took a Scottish team, to end Pep's perfect start at Chitty.

https://twitter.com/MrCliftonville/status/781234862472691712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[cam_wmh]

So Fellaini is starting again in the midfield, makes me think he's not in for the weekend.

[Senator Clay Davis]

How does United not have a single shot on target against a team that doesn't even have a Twitter account? Maybe Jose really is going full tank to get out of Europa League.

[cam_wmh]

Lol, 1 shot on net in total. Rooney is subbed on, & shortly there-after Ibra makes it 1-0. Surely, that's the way this thing closes out.

[cam_wmh]

Good god get fellaini off!!!

[SuperMatt18]

Ended up going to the Bayern Munich and FC Koln game today.

Great atmosphere at the Alianz Arena.

Kimmich continued his hot streak but Bayern could only manage a draw.

[GirlySports]

Joey Barton Suspended For Making 44 Illegal Bets on Soccer Games (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37567674)

[Senator Clay Davis]

You know what I love about goal line technology? They still manage to get the adidas logo on the ball

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/10/18/20/1476820454987_lc_galleryImage_vlcsnap_2016_10_18_2 0h52m.JPG

[Locke]

You know what I love about goal line technology? They still manage to get the adidas logo on the ball

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/10/18/20/1476820454987_lc_galleryImage_vlcsnap_2016_10_18_2 0h52m.JPG

And its always facing the right way!

Spurs got lucky on a poor finish and an excellent call.

[Locke]

Spuds are only in this by some excellent goalkeeping and the grace of God.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Lloris pretty much earns that point by himself. And Leicester are pretty much through to the knockout stage.

[d_phaneuf]

the save was incredible

tale of two halves really

hit the post twice in the first half and had 2 or 3 other half chances, plus scored on a pass that was rightfully called back inches offside, then Leverkusen pressed up and went for it in the 2nd half

Spurs did have chances to make something on the break but couldn't pick the right pass, I would have brought N'Koudou on earlier for some speed to counter

either way a point was good. 2nd place in the group with 2 of 3 games left at Wembley and the away game is shortest travel just to Monaco

[d_phaneuf]

Leicester with more points in the Champions League than the Premier League in late October is a bold move

[Senator Clay Davis]

Means they can start resting guys in the PL to get them ready for the knockout stages. Obviously their whole season now is about CL.

[d_phaneuf]

ya it already started, Mahrez didnt play on the weekend

it makes sense now, they are already basically 8 points back of top 4, but they are rest assured a spot in the CL KO stages unless something drastic happens so they have that until at least Late February

they probably prioritize league/FA cup games too going forward as well

[Slava]

the save was incredible

tale of two halves really

hit the post twice in the first half and had 2 or 3 other half chances, plus scored on a pass that was rightfully called back inches offside, then Leverkusen pressed up and went for it in the 2nd half

Spurs did have chances to make something on the break but couldn't pick the right pass, I would have brought N'Koudou on earlier for some speed to counter

either way a point was good. 2nd place in the group with 2 of 3 games left at Wembley and the away game is shortest travel just to Monaco

Spurs are in good shape I think, obviously depending on how things go at Wembley. I also was a little surprised not to see N'Koudou (and I am surprised we haven't seen more of him at times in general because he adds an element that not many others bring). I thought that Spurs were better with Janssen there to hold up and create chances that way as well.

The troubling thing for Spurs in general isn't new though. They play a great first half and let teams hang around. That was the problem yesterday where for one reason or another they didn't score. We saw it this weekend against WBA as well. Its one thing to say "they got unlucky" and when it happens once or twice, it is probably the case, but when it happens more often its more concerning. I don't know if the other teams adjust at half and Spurs just don't or what the issue is, but it seems to me to be a running trend.

[CroFlames]

Dinamo Zagreb only a -8 goal differential after three matches.

It pisses me off the club has no ambition and they are just content with developing players, then selling them. I know corruption is hard to root out, but it is still annoying.

It's actually surprising they are so good at developing talent.

[Locke]

Curse you BeIn!!

[nik-]

Curse you BeIn!!

Welcome to my entire Champion's League last season.

... and this season if I wasn't just streaming the games now :bag:

[Locke]

Welcome to my entire Champion's League last season.

... and this season if I wasn't just streaming the games now :bag:

I know but I dont want to stream the damned games, I pay for SNworld. WTF.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I like City leaving Aguero on the bench, best they looked all year were the games without him.

[Barnet Flame]

Two fantastic goals in the Arsenal match.

https://my.mixtape.moe/njspdy.mp4

https://my.mixtape.moe/eresin.mp4

Total crap in between.


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[Senator Clay Davis]

Bravo just got himself a pretty hilarious straight red for City, handling it outside the box after a terrible give away.

[d_phaneuf]

the best part was I think it would have hit his head if he didnt put his hands up

also if it didnt hit his head, Stones had it behind him

[cam_wmh]

Don't tell Joe though.

He's too busy eating & drinking better and doing better looking chicks.

[cam_wmh]

Looking forward to Carrick with Pogba.

-------- Rooney
Martial, Mata, Lingard
----- Carrick - Pogba
Shaw, Smalling, Bailly, Darmian
-------- de Gea

[Locke]

Oh yes, more Rooney! Thats the ticket!

Granted, its just Fener.

[Locke]

That was an opportunity lost to let Rooney score two penalties.

[devo22]

That was an opportunity lost to let Rooney score two penalties.
that must be really hard for you and many other non-United-fans.

[Locke]

that must be really hard for you and many other non-United-fans.

We endure.

[devo22]

But I'll admit, it's pretty crazy that he doesn't get to take one of them ... in the EL of all competitions. Would have been unthinkable only a few months ago.

[cam_wmh]

If he scored them, he'd have the record for total goals scored in Europe for a United player, surpassing RVN.

[Locke]

If he scored them, he'd have the record for total goals scored in Europe for a United player, surpassing RVN.

Are you insinuating that Mourinho has it out for Rooney?

[cam_wmh]

Are you insinuating that Mourinho has it out for Rooney?

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/elections/14922d1203442021-obama-illegals-share-same-message-n522306244_197290_3718.jpg

[Senator Clay Davis]

It certainly appears Mourinho does have it out for Depay though. Has he even got a start this year yet?

[cam_wmh]

It certainly appears Mourinho does have it out for Depay though. Has he even got a start this year yet?

Now that's valid. Seeing 7 on him, is an eyebrow raiser....

[devo22]

was great to see van Persie get ovations when he scored that goal at the end.

[Locke]

Inter have sacked De Boer.

And have I mentioned I hate BeIn? Because I do.

[nik-]

Inter have sacked De Boer.

And have I mentioned I hate BeIn? Because I do.

They fired him over Skype. The disease is spreading.

[Locke]

They fired him over Skype. The disease is spreading.

Craig MacTavish wasnt a classless buffoon, he was a visionary!

I have to get into professional coaching.

1. Sign long term contract.
2. Suck.
3. .....
4. Profit?

[Senator Clay Davis]

They fired him over Skype. The disease is spreading.

The disease will really be spreading once we see coaches getting fired by Periscope.

[nik-]

The disease will really be spreading once we see coaches getting fired by Periscope.

Too bad Vine is dead. The natural progression to a 6 second firing would have been stellar.

[Locke]

The disease will really be spreading once we see coaches getting fired by Periscope.

I prefer to fire mine by cannon.

[kobasew19]

Dinamo Zagreb only a -8 goal differential after three matches.

It pisses me off the club has no ambition and they are just content with developing players, then selling them. I know corruption is hard to root out, but it is still annoying.

It's actually surprising they are so good at developing talent.

Pjaca for Juve has looked good in his limited minutes. I could see him starting some games when he comes back from his injury.

[shermanator]

Canadian #1 keeper Milan Borjan is starting for Ludogorets against Arsenal in the Champions League today.

[Locke]

Holger Badstuber makes the bench! Any odds on him getting hurt tonight?

[cam_wmh]

WOW. Sterling just got a yellow for diving, at what looked like him drawing a penalty.

[cam_wmh]

This looks like another Clattenburg scenario, where crowd voices their disapproval of poor calls early on Digne. He's making the calls against the home crowd, almost like the disent we saw from that poorly called game on the weekend.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Canadian #1 keeper Milan Borjan is starting for Ludogorets against Arsenal in the Champions League today.

2-0 lead for Ludogorets within 15 minutes...

[Locke]

2-0 lead for Ludogorets within 15 minutes...

Arsenal claw one back.

I was watching a preview show and they specifically mentioned how Arsenal are in good shape in their group right now but always manage to find a way to screw things up.

I cant imagine that Ludogorets could hold this, but it really speaks to his point. Why on Earth were they down 2-0?

[Luder]

Holger Badstuber makes the bench! Any odds on him getting hurt tonight?

He'll take three of his fingers off to the knuckle, chewing his nails.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Gundogan for £20 million? Nice....

[Locke]

Gundogan for £20 million? Nice....

Hes a great player when hes healthy, hes just rarely healthy.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Oh no doubt, but in a transfer market where £25 million can't even get you Troy Deeney, City did well.

[Locke]

Oh no doubt, but in a transfer market where £25 million can't even get you Troy Deeney, City did well.

Whoa man, lets not say things we cant take back. Gundogan is pretty good, but hes no Troy Deeney.

[Locke]

Go Ludogarets! Shine on you crazy Bulgarian bastards!

City leading Barca now.

I'm so torn on that game, I dislike both teams, and I really dislike Pep, but I like De Bruyne and Gundogan.

So much conflict.

[GirlySports]

Go Ludogarets! Shine on you crazy Bulgarian bastards!

City leading Barca now.

I'm so torn on that game, I dislike both teams, and I really dislike Pep, but I like De Bruyne and Gundogan.

So much conflict.

you cheer for laundry, not players :P

[Locke]

you cheer for laundry, not players :P

Eh...it depends. The outcome of this match affects me not at all so I have to try and manufacture some interest and the laundry between these two doesnt interest me at all.

I do like to see Barcelona lose, but I dont like to see City win.

[Locke]

Dammit. Well, Ludogarets gave it the ol' Bulgarian try.

At least Bayern are winning.

[GirlySports]

poor Ludogorets

[Locke]

poor Ludogorets

You'd think they at least earned the point.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Poor Ludogorets, but at least they lost because of a pretty sweet goal by Ozil.

https://vine.co/v/5DBYbAxXXnn

[shermanator]

Ozil made Borjan his bitch. This is why Canada can't have nice things!

[Locke]

Poor Ludogorets, but at least they lost because of a pretty sweet goal by Ozil.

https://vine.co/v/5DBYbAxXXnn

I just saw the video of that goal. That was SWEET!

In fairness, Borjan got sold out by his defenders, they were way, way too far away so he has to come out or just hand Ozil the whole net and hope for a mistake.

[nik-]

Go Ludogarets! Shine on you crazy Bulgarian bastards!

City leading Barca now.

I'm so torn on that game, I dislike both teams, and I really dislike Pep, but I like De Bruyne and Gundogan.

So much conflict.

You could cheer against Barcelona's bull#### holier than thou, history rewriting, underdog image.

It's pretty easy.

[SuperMatt18]

I just cheer for both teams to score no goals, and get 3 red cards each when they play each other.

All whole hoping that Suarez will bite Pep to top it all off.

[Locke]

I just cheer for both teams to score no goals, and get 3 red cards each when they play each other.

All whole hoping that Suarez will bite Pep to top it all off.

Now thats a position I can get behind!

[Senator Clay Davis]

A great goal witnessed by tens of thousands of pieces of plastic

https://twitter.com/futbol_stuff_/status/793904389899554816

[Senator Clay Davis]

So ummm Real is about to blow a 2-0 lead to Legia Warsaw in front of 0 fans....

Edit: One minute later lol, 3-3.

[GirlySports]

Legia get a point!

[nik-]

####ing hideous