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IgiTang

10-03-2015, 09:46 PM

Kulak was great I thought. Engalland, not so much. Monahan had a great first but disappear ed a bit after that.
Bennett got pushed around and Backlund was meh..

Hockey-and_stuff

10-03-2015, 09:48 PM

I was at this one. Can't say I was disappointed with the Flames effort but they did leave me wanting more. Kulak and Bennett were excellent. The rest of the team looked stuck in low gear.

Robbob

10-03-2015, 09:48 PM

Hudler left and was kept out for what was being speculated as precautionary measures.

Kulak stood out on D.

Let the season begin!

Thanks, was at the game and noticed he wasn't on the bench.

SuperMatt18

10-03-2015, 09:50 PM

Kulak looked great, very composed and smart plays in his own end. Think he deserves the spot.

Thank god pre-season is over

codynw

10-03-2015, 09:51 PM

Kulak has to be in the lineup on Wednesday.

getbak

10-03-2015, 09:51 PM

Kulak definitely deserves to be in the lineup on Wednesday.

hummdeedoo

10-03-2015, 09:59 PM

Bennett always has a few highlight moments but I think he will struggle as a second line center - just not quite strong enough yet.

Was looking for more from a lot of the guys tonight but again not really disappointed from anyone

Samonadreau

10-03-2015, 10:02 PM

Tonight didnt really help or hurt Ramo's chances. He was good. Not great, not bad.

Gotta think theres three goalies to start the year.

Dion

10-03-2015, 10:06 PM

Not sure why the timing was off. Expected a better showing from the offence.

kyuss275

10-03-2015, 10:09 PM

Tomorrow could be an interesting day for the flames. Rosters have to be set Tuesday morning. Have to think if they are going to put anybody on waivers, tomorrow is the day. Raymond should be put on waivers, but i'm not sure he will be. Highly doubt they put any of the goalies on waivers, but if they do, tomorrow would be the day.

Kulak in my eyes past his last test to make the big club out of camp.

I was a poster going into pre-season that could not see a place for Bollig on this team. Thought he would be traded or put on waivers. Full credit to him for upping his game. His pre-season was very good and deserves to be on the roster. Hopefully he can continue his stellar play for the entire season.

Still not sure what happens to Granlund or Byron. They both should make it , but the 3 goalies situatiuon and maybe the Raymond situation kind of makes it foggy.

Vulcan

10-03-2015, 10:10 PM

gvitaly

10-03-2015, 10:18 PM

I think this game really showed that the Flames' offense is really missing Brodie. Once the jets started clogging up the middle the Flames had trouble getting the puck into the o-zone. Last season it used to be either Gaudreau or Brodie carrying the puck into the zone and then passing it off once the middle of the ice got crowded. I also hope that Hudler is doing alright. Kulak had a good game, with a few good pinches and no glaring mistakes. As for Ramo, he played well but the second goal was on him.

Anyways let's get the season underway!

tvp2003

10-03-2015, 10:22 PM

That Jets team is massive. Even without Buff and Ladd in the lineup.

Let the regular season begin!

schteve_d

10-03-2015, 10:23 PM

I only picked it up half-way through the second but what stood out to me was some very disorganized breakouts with passes to nowhere and nobody; at times throwing it up the middle. We're very lucky we didn't get burned on it. Hopefully this tightens up come next week as that will normally have us eaten alive.

GranteedEV

10-03-2015, 10:26 PM

Should we carry 8 D once Brodie and Smid are healthy?

Gio-Brodie
Russell-Hamilton
Kulak-Wideman
Smid / Engelland

memphusk

10-03-2015, 10:30 PM

Should we carry 8 D once Brodie and Smid are healthy?

Gio-Brodie
Russell-Hamilton
Kulak-Wideman
Smid / Engelland

No. Smid is terrible.

M*A*S*H 4077

10-03-2015, 10:35 PM

Kulak was terrific tonight! He's a great skater. I think he's earned a spot to start the year

Fire

10-03-2015, 10:39 PM

Not sure what Treliving is going to do with the goaltenders. None of the goalies have been bad.

hockey.modern

10-03-2015, 10:41 PM

How many people do we have right now and what's the max we can have for a roster?

Hells Bells

10-03-2015, 10:44 PM

Not sure what Treliving is going to do with the goaltenders. None of the goalies have been bad.

Better scenario than having one stinking up the joint and having no value.

This is best case if they plan on trying to move a goalie.

Finger Cookin

10-03-2015, 10:50 PM

How many people do we have right now and what's the max we can have for a roster?
The roster max is 23, and that needs to be reached by 3 PM Calgary time on Tuesday.

The Flames have 28 players right now, including three that are injured (Colborne, Brodie, Smid). The injured players won't count towards the roster limit. That takes the number down to 25. This means two cuts need to be made by the Tuesday deadline.

My guess is that Granlund is assigned to Stockton (he's waiver exempt), and that Wilson is not offered a contract. That gets us to 23.

hockey.modern

10-03-2015, 11:02 PM

So in the post game interview Hartley said they have made their decision on who will be the goalies this season and said it shouldn't be a real surprise. Hmm... But he seemed unsure when asked about running with three goalies. Also looks like Kulak made the team.

kyuss275

10-03-2015, 11:32 PM

Going off what Hartley said i guess the goalies he has chosen are Ramo and Ortio. I don't think Hiller had a full game to himself.

dammage79

10-03-2015, 11:37 PM

Going off what Hartley said i guess the goalies he has chosen are Ramo and Ortio. I don't think Hiller had a full game to himself.

Hiller did get a full game.Just trying to remember if he got two full games.

Not that it matters much but I to nk Ramo/Ortio is a bad idea for a full season.

kyuss275

10-03-2015, 11:48 PM

Hiller did get a full game.Just trying to remember if he got two full games.

Not that it matters much but I to nk Ramo/Ortio is a bad idea for a full season.

Didn't know that Hiller had a full game. I have actually now read Hartely's full quote and it was to the question, who will be the starter for the first game of the season?. I'm guessing Ramo because he played in the last pre-season game. Granted i could see any of the 3 starting the season. They all played well and i don't think any one of them was that much better than the other.

Samonadreau

10-03-2015, 11:49 PM

Answered: Kulak makes the team.

Unanswered: Goailie, Wilson.

Food for thought: what happens when Colbourne and Brodie come back around the same time? Thats two more roster moves required(assuming nobody else is injured)

Enoch Root

10-03-2015, 11:55 PM

1) the goalie situation needs to be answered

2) there will likely be other injuries

SHOGUN

10-04-2015, 12:04 AM

Don't feel confident going into the season with Ortio and Ramo. I think it's best, we go in with all three and see who's the most consistent in the beginning of the season.

Samonadreau

10-04-2015, 12:10 AM

Even if they go with 3 goalies to start, what do you do - run a 3 goalie rotation until somebody has 1 bad game?

Enoch Root

10-04-2015, 12:16 AM

Even if they go with 3 goalies to start, what do you do - run a 3 goalie rotation until somebody has 1 bad game?

That's the thing.

Is 5 starts each enough to make a decision? 10? 20?

Even 20 starts each isn't much when you think about it. And that is 75% of the season.

At some point you just have to make a decision.

Based on the fact that they didn't add Ortio to the list of waiver names, I take that as meaning that they don't want to expose him to waivers - and it's probably too late now.

In other words, they think he is part of the answer (again, my opinion).

If so, I would think they will be on perpetual find-a-trade-for-one-of-the-other-two mode until they can get this resolved.

Samonadreau

10-04-2015, 12:23 AM

I guess it will buy some time to keep that for sale sign up.

getbak

10-04-2015, 12:26 AM

If so, I would think they will be on perpetual find-a-trade-for-one-of-the-other-two mode until they can get this resolved.
I think that's it. No one wants a permanent 3-man rotation. If they start the season with three in Calgary, it's basically saying to Ramo and Hiller, "we're trying to trade one of you".

Samonadreau

10-04-2015, 12:39 AM

I think that's it. No one wants a permanent 3-man rotation. If they start the season with three in Calgary, it's basically saying to Ramo and Hiller, "we're trying to trade one of you".

What would be interesting is if one guy gets really hot and starts to get some interest do you get rid of the the guy that is tearing it up?

combustiblefuel

10-04-2015, 12:44 AM

What would be interesting is if one guy gets really hot and starts to get some interest do you get rid of the the guy that is tearing it up?

Only if that guy is not Ortio or Gillies.

Dion

10-04-2015, 02:47 AM

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dammage79

10-04-2015, 06:23 AM

Prediction: Joni Ortio wins the opening day starting job.

Cali Panthers Fan

10-04-2015, 06:44 AM

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Wideman always has the best faces.

Rick M.

10-04-2015, 07:25 AM

Wideman always has the best faces.

Agreed. At least nobody has added a waffle travelling into his mouth. Yet.

Hart50

10-04-2015, 10:01 AM

As a matter of interest, if a player is put on waivers is he still considered to be part of the '23' roster limit until he either clears waivers or is claimed?
For instance, if they put Hiller on waivers, would they have to put him on waivers at least 24 hours prior to the deadline on Tuesday?

Thanks,
H

Gaskal

10-04-2015, 12:11 PM

Yikes. Dunno what Gio and Dougie were thinking on this play.

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CQcD7Z_UYAEPvuf.mp4

saillias

10-04-2015, 12:16 PM

So this year's Jooris is Kulak. Pretty impressive for a 21 year old defenseman to crack an NHL roster out of camp. He made Wilson obsolete.

GranteedEV

10-04-2015, 12:40 PM

Yikes. Dunno what Gio and Dougie were thinking on this play.

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CQcD7Z_UYAEPvuf.mp4

Gio's thinking "I miss Brodie"
Dougie's thinking "I miss Chara and Rask"

saillias

10-04-2015, 12:45 PM

Yikes. Dunno what Gio and Dougie were thinking on this play.

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CQcD7Z_UYAEPvuf.mp4

Fluke play. Not too often will that shot sneak right through the open space between both defenders, right as their forward comes by the front of the net for a perfect tip. There's a lot of randomness involved in a goal like this