Joni "Oreo" Ortio

[hockey.modern]

Thought it would be an appropriate time to make a thread about Joni Ortio. Talk about a guy who has shown strong games and two shutouts in the past 7 games hes played at the NHL level.

Seriously can this guy be our next Kiprusoff at his peak? They are the same height and weight, both are from Finland and Ortio is trained by Kipper in the offseason.

http://i.imgur.com/2ZfE82f.gif

[Vulcan]

I know in your innocence calling Ortio, Oreo seems cool but what calling someone an Oreo means is somewhat a racial epithet. It means you are black on the outside and white on the inside. I'd just avoid it's use as it's not fitting and not nice.

Term for African Americans that the black community is generally offended with for betraying their roots usually for dating caucasion girls, dressing too white, talking too white, etc. The term is branded OREO since they are "Black on the outside, White on the inside"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oreo

Here's even a spoof about it.

http://empirenews.net/oreo-to-change-color-of-cookies-to-combat-rumors-of-racism/

[combustiblefuel]

Thought it would be an appropriate time to make a thread about Joni Ortio. Talk about a guy who has shown strong games and two shutouts in the past 7 games hes played at the NHL level.

Seriously can this guy be our next Kiprusoff at his peak? They are the same height and weight, both are from Finland and Ortio is trained by Kipper in the offseason.
They also played for the same Finnish team over seas that Kipper now owns and Ortio is in the sam position as Kipper was in with the Sharks 3 goalie situation.

[combustiblefuel]

I know in your innocence calling Ortio, Oreo seems cool but what calling someone an Oreo means is somewhat a racial epithet. It means you are black on the outside and white on the inside. I'd just avoid it's use as it's not fitting and not nice.



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oreo

Here's even a spoof about it.

http://empirenews.net/oreo-to-change-color-of-cookies-to-combat-rumors-of-racism/

Only the second post in and it turns to political and about racism.well done sir.

Didn't the nickname Oreo come about because a t.v pbp miss said his name?

[AC]

Uh oh, "Oreo" is off limits now for political correctness?

Better off calling him "Hydrox" I guess to be safe:
http://i.imgur.com/K7nK8QX.jpg

[GoJetsGo]

People should refrain from calling him Oreo for the lone and simple reason that it sounds dumb. :bag:

[AC]

People should refrain from calling him Oreo for the lone and simple reason that it sounds dumb. :bag:

Sure, but it came about the same way that "Jarmoe" did.

Besides, would you prefer "Orts"? Because that's what it will be.

[Vulcan]

Orts is fine.

[Northendzone]

Joni goalie or Joni hockey?

[AcGold]

I know in your innocence calling Ortio, Oreo seems cool but what calling someone an Oreo means is somewhat a racial epithet. It means you are black on the outside and white on the inside. I'd just avoid it's use as it's not fitting and not nice.



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oreo

Here's even a spoof about it.

http://empirenews.net/oreo-to-change-color-of-cookies-to-combat-rumors-of-racism/
Vulcan earlier in the day

http://i.imgur.com/UgBC0wZ.gif

[playmaker]

Ortzero

[dying4acup]

If this kid is on waivers before the season starts, I'm going to break some windows.

I live in Vancouver, so this will only alarm people who know the Canucks aren't in the cup finals.

[Itse]

calling someone an Oreo means is somewhat a racial epithet. It means you are black on the outside and white on the inside

Disagree. The primary meaning of that word is a cookie. Yes, there is a well-known (but less used) "racial" meaning to the word, but as you said yourself, any racial tone to the word wouldn't even make sense here.

We can't and shouldn't just stop using every word that has ever been used as a slur against someone. If anything we should reclaim these types of words that are perfectly common and innocent by themselves. It's not like the word is going to just go away whether or not we use it. (Well, not as long as Oreos are sold anyway.)

If anything, using Oreo as a reference to something else lessens the impact of that words other meanings.

[RM14]

Vulcan does the oreo line from the mighty ducks offend you too?

http://whodoesthisstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Oreo-Line.jpg

[Vulcan]

Disagree. The primary meaning of that word is a cookie. Yes, there is a well-known (but less used) "racial" meaning to the word, but as you said yourself, any racial tone to the word wouldn't even make sense here.

We can't and shouldn't just stop using every word that has ever been used as a slur against someone. If anything we should reclaim these types of words that are perfectly common and innocent by themselves. It's not like the word is going to just go away whether or not we use it. (Well, not as long as Oreos are sold anyway.)

If anything, using Oreo as a reference to something else lessens the impact of that words other meanings.

It's too late for that, the cat is out of the bag.

[thymebalm]

Let's not allow ourselves to succumb to a level of hyper sensitivity that inhibits our ability to use puns and enjoy harmless wordplay.

If Ortio were of mixed light/dark heritage and the nickname was being used as an attempt to degrade him, then by all means blow your whistle.

However.

If people decide to call Ortio Oreo because the names are really similar, and Oreos look like the 0 that Ortio posted on the game sheet tonight, and that he's a cookie-monster eating up would be goals and that makes you want to call him Oreo, well then there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Context, people.

[GoJetsGo]

Sure, but it came about the same way that "Jarmoe" did.

Besides, would you prefer "Orts"? Because that's what it will be.

Oreo is just a little too Gene Principe for my taste.

[TheDebaser]

Johnny Hockey is insensitive too guys. It might offend people who might not be able to play hockey because they stepped on a landmine or something. Or are you insensitive towards the disabled?

[Alberta_Beef]

Thought it would be an appropriate time to make a thread about Joni Ortio. Talk about a guy who has shown strong games and two shutouts in the past 7 games hes played at the NHL level.

Seriously can this guy be our next Kiprusoff at his peak? They are the same height and weight, both are from Finland and Ortio is trained by Kipper in the offseason.Did you see the lineups on Thursday night? Not sure I would say that is NHL level competition.

[FlameZilla]

Yes, let's never mention the word Oreo – the single most recognisable cookie brand in the world – because a small group of people use it to degrade each other. No one may ever use this word again.

This is double-reverse racism times 9, y'all.

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[Reggie Dunlop]

SUPERIOR-TIO!

(Headline on Flames website)

[J79]

Not everybody needs a nickname.

[mennoknight]

Orts is offensive to bigger pieces of food. An ort is food too! Signed - an ort

[Reggie Dunlop]

The Ortmeister. Ort-O-Rama. Ortitollah. Grand Ol' Orty.

Makin' saves.

[driveway]

There is and always has been 0% chance of Oreo (get over yourself Vulcan, Oreo is a fine nickname for a white guy) hitting waivers.

The flames will trade or send down Hiller before they let Ortio hit waivers

[Alberta_Beef]

There is and always has been 0% chance of Oreo (get over yourself Vulcan, Oreo is a fine nickname for a white guy) hitting waivers.

The flames will trade or send down Hiller before they let Ortio hit waivers
0%? Yeah, right.

[Roughneck]

Pope Francis Reverses Position On Capitalism After Seeing Wide Variety Of American Oreos

http://www.theonion.com/article/pope-francis-reverses-position-capitalism-after-se-51363

WASHINGTON—Admitting the startling discovery had compelled him to reexamine his long-held beliefs, His Holiness Pope Francis announced Tuesday that he had reversed his critical stance toward capitalism after seeing the immense variety of Oreos available in the United States. “Oh, my goodness, look at all these! Golden Oreos, Cookie Dough Oreos, Mega Stuf Oreos, Birthday Cake Oreos—perhaps the system of free enterprise is not as terrible as I once feared,” said the visibly awed bishop of Rome while visiting a Washington, D.C. supermarket, adding that the sheer diversity of flavors, various colors and quantities of creme filling, and presence or absence of an outer fudge layer had led to a profound philosophical shift in his feelings toward the global economy and opened his eyes to the remarkable capabilities of the free market. “Only a truly exceptional and powerful economic system would be capable of producing so many limited-edition and holiday-themed flavors of a single cookie brand, such as these extraordinary Key Lime Pie Oreos and Candy Corn Oreos. This is not a force of global impoverishment at all, but one of endless enrichment.”



Perhaps Pope Francis could learn to be a bit more culturally sensitive in the future.


As for Joni, I am a fan.

[Erick Estrada]

Okay I'm confused. I thought I was clicking on an Ortio thread but all I see here is racism and cookie talk. I think we may have a box of Oreo cookies in my house. Should I throw it out?:confused:

[kermitology]

Turku Goaliebot 2.0

[heep223]

Most threads in which Ortio is a main topic, including GT and PGT when he's playing, turn into cookie talk. Wouldn't have it any other way!

[saillias]

Chips Ahoy > Oreos

Fight me

[Lanny'sDaMan]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BCqs3QJzWp8/UjBTD8y19RI/AAAAAAAADZQ/M5Gvm9acEcc/s1600/tumblr_moawkhUci61rt28efo1_500.gif

[driveway]

0%? Yeah, right.


0%. He's younger, cheaper, and has higher upside than either Ramo or Hiller. We're not cup contenders this year, and we're facing a bit of a cap-crunch right now.

I'll do something with pubes if Ortio hits waivers before the season starts.

[NewFan]

So are we talking about Oreos? I'm from Asia so I guess I can be Oreo too. http://i2.wp.com/farm9.staticflickr.com/8327/8098705185_fe2b4ba059.jpg?resize=500%2C335

[Blarg]

Chips Ahoy > Oreos

Fight me


You. Me. Flag pole. 3 O'clock. Be there or be square.

[Finger Cookin]

Good lord, CP.

[Poe969]

I think Oreo, Chips Ahoy, Flag pole and square are all raciest in some way....

Joni Ortio played extremely well...for a Finnish person

[Alberta_Beef]

0%. He's younger, cheaper, and has higher upside than either Ramo or Hiller. We're not cup contenders this year, and we're facing a bit of a cap-crunch right now.

I'll do something with pubes if Ortio hits waivers before the season starts.
He has 15 career games. Suggesting there is a 0% chance he will be waived is ridiculous

[DionTheDman]

Orts is fine.

How about Jorts?

http://www.jorts.com/assets/img/photos/Iheartjorts.jpg

[Geeoff]

It's too late for that, the cat is out of the bag.
So what do you call the cookies?

[hockey.modern]

Yikes... Didn't expect it to turn into this..

[longsuffering]

Let's not allow ourselves to succumb to a level of hyper sensitivity that inhibits our ability to use puns and enjoy harmless wordplay.

If Ortio were of mixed light/dark heritage and the nickname was being used as an attempt to degrade him, then by all means blow your whistle.

However.

If people decide to call Ortio Oreo because the names are really similar, and Oreos look like the 0 that Ortio posted on the game sheet tonight, and that he's a cookie-monster eating up would be goals and that makes you want to call him Oreo, well then there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Context, people.

This!

[Puppet Guy]

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[DJones]

Ugh, I did not need to read this nonsense this early.

His name will always being Oreo to me now. I will pretend the t doesn't exist haha.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Chips Ahoy > Oreos

Fight me

Or, you could like a REAL cookie and not all that garbage.

http://www.voortman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/strawberryTurnover.jpg

[Itse]

It's too late for that, the cat is out of the bag.

Umm, what? It's literally impossible to reclaim words that have not been "claimed" first for some other purpose (in this case as a slur), so this comment makes no sense.

[Tacopuck]

Were we not calling him Ketchup or something back in January? Or am I thinking of someone else

[Huntingwhale]

So are we talking about Oreos? I'm from Asia so I guess I can be Oreo too. http://i2.wp.com/farm9.staticflickr.com/8327/8098705185_fe2b4ba059.jpg?resize=500%2C335

Actually, the term for that is banana. Someone who is yellow on the outside, white on the inside.

The opposite is egger. White on the outside, yellow on the inside.

Either way, complaining about the term Oreo, and quoting urban dictionary is a big failure. Sorry Vulcan.

To get back to the OP's point, yes I do believe Ortio to be a legit #1 down the road. Maybe not this season or next, but Finnish goalies are often late bloomers and really come to their own in their late 20s (Kipper, Rinne to name a few). The fact that he comes from Turku and trained with Kipper is enough to convince me.

This article has been posted before, but I'll post it again in case anybody is in doubt of how a Finnish goaltender comes to fruition. Some great quotes by Ortio in that article as well.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/03/the-puck-stops-here/357579/

Never ever doubt a Finnish goalie. I would be perfectly content going with 2 Finnish goalies this season and Hiller being the odd man out. And I am a huge Hiller fan.

[Poe969]

Or, you could like a REAL cookie and not all that garbage.

The Voortman logo is sexist towards women and racist towards people from the Netherlands....

And there's a hole in the middle! There are no holes in Ortio's game, that's why he gets "the shutout"

I honestly think he's going to be the starter by the end of the year. It looks great to have a few really good goalie prospects and a young goalie on the roster that has this much potential. Things are looking good and it's hard not to get excited about this team!

[Bandwagon In Flames]

I guess there's only 2 people on CP that actually want to talk about Ortio.. Very sad and disrespectful to a goalie who just posted a shutout in the most important game of his career.

Thanks Vulcan for instantly derailing this thread with your ridiculously over sensitive post. I cannot believe you actually think this way. It's that kind of mindset that's turning our society into a place where people fear saying anything in case it offends someone. Maybe you should write a nasty letter to Oreo and ask them to change the name of their cookie because it's also a racial slur and offends people.

I MEAN SERIOUSLY? WE CAN'T CALL A FINNISH GOALIE A COOKIE BRAND???

[Reggie Dunlop]

Domino.

Finnish brand of chocolate cookie with creme filling

kHKrVx5jDso

[DownhillGoat]

http://www.voortman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/strawberryTurnover.jpg
Well, looks like we have a new nickname for Hall.

[Vinny01]

On topic I really hope Ortio turns into our starting goalie this year and puts up number 1 stats. I think we know what we have in Hiller and Ramo which is average goaltending with hot and cold streaks. The flames need a legit stud if they want to make more noise than last year and it would be amazing if that came in the form of Ortio.

[Itse]

Domino.

Finnish brand of chocolate cookie with creme filling

kHKrVx5jDso

These are actually much better than Oreos.

[Moderator]

Suggestion: Start a new thread that remains on topic.