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sureLoss
09-17-2015, 05:18 PM
http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=779448

http://i.imgur.com/XcFdzjz.png

http://i.imgur.com/cXoMek3.png

http://i.imgur.com/dNcwTQq.png

Team announces Smid, Byron, and Culkin will not scrimmage

sureLoss
09-17-2015, 05:21 PM
http://i.imgur.com/1vjinBS.png

sureLoss
09-17-2015, 05:25 PM
Looks like
Gio-Hamilton
Brodie-Engelland
Russell-Wideman

based on how the groups are split up

bluck
09-17-2015, 05:25 PM
Team C gets my pick

SuperMatt18
09-17-2015, 05:26 PM
Looks like
Gio-Hamilton
Brodie-Engelland
Russell-Wideman

based on how the groups are split up

That would be my guess too.

Wotherspoon, Morrison and Nakladal split among the three groups As well.

Probably each get spot time with a top 6 dman to see how they adapt.

agulati
09-17-2015, 05:26 PM
What's the current status on Byron, if he cannot scrimmage? How far away is he?

Good to see that Colborne will be part of the scrimmages. Looks like his wrist is progressing well.

Finger Cookin
09-17-2015, 05:51 PM
What's the current status on Byron, if he cannot scrimmage? How far away is he?

Good to see that Colborne will be part of the scrimmages. Looks like his wrist is progressing well.
Regarding Byron:

‏@Fan960Steinberg
Still recovering from his wrist injury. Had a screw removed from his wrist at the beginning of the month. #Flames

GranteedEV
09-17-2015, 06:00 PM
The Blueline on team A is cringe-worthy except for Brodie. Luckily Brodie is amazing.

Phanuthier
09-17-2015, 06:31 PM
The Blueline on team A is cringe-worthy except for Brodie. Luckily Brodie is amazing.
With Brodie on the ice, its almost like they are on a PP sometimes. He's worth 2 players when he's on the ice.

Murph
09-17-2015, 06:36 PM
Hurdler with Bennett?

hockey.modern
09-17-2015, 06:38 PM
Also Backlund with Frolik

Komskies
09-17-2015, 06:53 PM
C'mon, how do you not put McDonald on team McDonald?

prizefighterinferno
09-17-2015, 06:54 PM
Hmmm...

Gaudreau-Monahan-________
________-Bennett-Hudler (LW/RW)
________-Backlund-Frolik (LW/RW)
________-Stajan-Jones

hockey.modern
09-17-2015, 06:57 PM
Hmmm...

Gaudreau-Monahan-________
________-Bennett-Hudler (LW/RW)
________-Backlund-Frolik (LW/RW)
________-Stajan-Jones

Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Engelland
Russell-Wideman

Finger Cookin
09-17-2015, 06:57 PM
I wouldn't read too much into combinations until after the split squad game at the very earliest.

GranteedEV
09-17-2015, 07:03 PM
Hmmm...

Gaudreau-Monahan-________
________-Bennett-Hudler (LW/RW)
________-Backlund-Frolik (LW/RW)
________-Stajan-Jones

Gio passing the Cup to Stajan is gonna be glorious.

greyshep
09-17-2015, 07:25 PM
Are all these practices/scrimmages open to the public?

CMPunk
09-17-2015, 07:27 PM
Are all these practices/scrimmages open to the public?

Yup

sureLoss
09-17-2015, 07:27 PM
Are all these practices/scrimmages open to the public?

Yes all on-ice sessions are open to the public

CanucksWorstNightmare
09-17-2015, 07:34 PM
I know Ferland and Jooris would be playing their off wings but I would really like to see these lines.Ferland would add some toughness(Protect Johnny) to top line and create some room for Johnny and Monahan.
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Colborne-Bennett-Hudler (LW/RW)
Bouma -Backlund-Frolik (LW/RW)
Jooris-Stajan-Jones. Shore Raymond Bollig extras

bigbadboss101
09-17-2015, 07:40 PM
Who is going? We should do a meet up.

bigbadboss101
09-17-2015, 07:45 PM
I think the first two lines will see Hudler/Folik may be flip flopped on the RW. Ferland perhaps up to 3rd line and then Jones as the expensive 4th liner. As center whether Bennett gets bigger minutes or be sheltered on the 3rd line we will see. I like to see Backlund there for now.

Gundo
09-17-2015, 08:06 PM
Looks like
Gio-Hamilton
Brodie-Engelland
Russell-Wideman


I have the strangest boner right now...

bigbadboss101
09-17-2015, 08:24 PM
Looks like
Gio-Hamilton
Brodie-Engelland
Russell-Wideman
---
How about Wilson with Brodie, and Engelland being the 7th D or play some forward?

KootenayFlamesFan
09-17-2015, 09:00 PM
Engelland really played well down the stretch last season. He deserves to start in the top 6 unless he has a brutal camp.

dammage79
09-17-2015, 09:07 PM
Wilson and Nakladal are my darkhorse picks to unseat some guys this year. I know Wilson is on a PTO but before he got injured a lot he was really on an upswing. Really keen to see if he can get it all back on track.

Which sucks because I want Wotherspoon to have a monster camp and earn a full time spot but there;s a strong vet presence this year. Tough Muntain to climb

Atodaso
09-17-2015, 09:18 PM
Why is Jankowski not involved in this?

hockey.modern
09-17-2015, 09:21 PM
Why is Jankowski not involved in this?

He's going back for his last year of college.

Caged Great
09-17-2015, 09:56 PM
Who is going? We should do a meet up.

I'll be there.

Matata
09-17-2015, 10:09 PM
Looks like
Gio-Hamilton
Brodie-Engelland
Russell-Wideman

based on how the groups are split up

This is how I'd have the pairs. I say if you have two guys who can carry a top line, put them on different lines. Gio and Brodie don't need each other to be great, splitting them up spreads the wealth and makes the overall D better, can always put them back together as needed. You'll always have one fresh for the PP or PK and the worst D pairing is somewhere between a weak 1st pair and a great second pair.

3 LHD and 3 RHD, how can a coach resist?

hockey.modern
09-17-2015, 10:16 PM
I would hope to see PP lines such as

Gio-Brodie
Hamilton-Wideman

or,

Gio-Wideman
Brodie-Hamilton

saillias
09-18-2015, 06:49 AM
From what I've heard Brodie prefers the right side to the left.

Brodie's production prior to the Giordano injury: 35 points in 61 games. 47 point pace.

After the Gio injury, paired with Engelland: 6 points in his final 20 games. 25 point pace.

Brodie-Engelland keeps Engelland above water but it craters Brodie's offensive production. Don't see why his game should be stifled like that in order to babysit someone who gets eaten alive when he plays with bottom pairing guys.

This is why I hope someone else makes the top 6. Prospect, PTO or Nakladal.

flambers
09-18-2015, 07:02 AM
Should be really interesting camp...

Who is the 7th & 8th Dman?

Which Goalie gets waived?

Flames have to many forwards.... Should be interesting to see the final cuts

Split98
09-18-2015, 08:14 AM
Seems kinda odd that McDonald gets a practice before playing Nieuwendyk... who practices AFTER the game.

I know it's scrimmage, but still weird.

Cheerio
09-18-2015, 08:54 AM
Here's a good article written by Kent Wilson about his opinions on the defensive pairs. I would probably go with
Hamilton-Giordano
Brodi-Russell/Wideman
Russel/Wideman-Nakladal/Wilson
Nakladal/Wilson

Move Engelland to forward and waive Bollig if we have to keep one junk player for "toughness".

http://flamesnation.ca/2015/9/16/random-thoughts-the-2015-blueline

Caged Great
09-18-2015, 08:55 AM
They are on the arena C ice now warming up.

bubbsy
09-18-2015, 08:57 AM
thanx in advance "Caged Great"

Caged Great
09-18-2015, 09:01 AM
Glad to do it as always.

Caged Great
09-18-2015, 09:06 AM
The first two drills were break in on the wing and fire it at the goalie and a 2 on 0 version of that as a give and go.

Caged Great
09-18-2015, 09:10 AM
Brodie and Engelland are wearing grey jerseys and neither are skating particularly fast.

Johnny and Mony look good.

Bandwagon In Flames
09-18-2015, 09:10 AM
Here's a good article written by Kent Wilson about his opinions on the defensive pairs. I would probably go with
Hamilton-Giordano
Brodi-Russell/Wideman
Russel/Wideman-Nakladal/Wilson
Nakladal/Wilson

Move Engelland to forward and waive Bollig if we have to keep one junk player for "toughness".

http://flamesnation.ca/2015/9/16/random-thoughts-the-2015-blueline

Interesting article, but a bit too heavy on the advanced stats.

Getting Brodie on the 2nd pairing might work out well. Wideman can keep on the offense and Brodie can make up for his lack of defense. Whatever happens though, I want Gaudreau and Wideman on the ice together whenever possible. They have so much chemistry with eachother it's unreal.

Since it's advanced stat focused, the author puts Russell into a negative light saying he is poor defensively. His unorthodox defense isn't flattering in the advanced stat department, but he passes the eye test every game. AND I MEAN COME ON HE HAS THE HIGHEST +/- ON THE TEAM. When did that stat stop meaning anything? It's more indicative of the results than any advanced stat.

Caged Great
09-18-2015, 09:10 AM
Might be some nagging injuries with the two d-men.

bigbadboss101
09-18-2015, 09:13 AM
Here's a good article written by Kent Wilson about his opinions on the defensive pairs. I would probably go with
Hamilton-Giordano
Brodi-Russell/Wideman
Russel/Wideman-Nakladal/Wilson
Nakladal/Wilson

Move Engelland to forward and waive Bollig if we have to keep one junk player for "toughness".

http://flamesnation.ca/2015/9/16/random-thoughts-the-2015-blueline

If we go back to the year prior to last then these tough players who have skills would not be considered junk. NHL seem to have abandoned the pure goons, and now also some tough guys who can play. I am all for moving DE to forward and have 3 solid pairs. That way we dont have to play anyone 29 minutes a game like we did during the playoffs.

BigFlameDog
09-18-2015, 09:23 AM
http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=779448

http://i.imgur.com/dNcwTQq.png

Team announces Smid, Byron, and Culkin will not scrimmage

Poor Bennett....always the last one picked.

Caged Great
09-18-2015, 09:27 AM
Gaudreau looks a lot faster than he used to.

heep223
09-18-2015, 09:33 AM
I really hope Brodie's ankle injury doesn't become a recurring thing.

Ulrith
09-18-2015, 09:34 AM
Gaudreau looks a lot faster than he used to.

Seriously? He was not exactly slow to begin with. That just makes me even more excited for this year! :w00t:

DionTheDman
09-18-2015, 09:58 AM
They should just use players' names once when doing the team names. Eventually, I hope to see Team Domenichelli, Team Bassen, and Team Hale 20 years down the line.

GranteedEV
09-18-2015, 10:03 AM
Gaudreau looks a lot faster than he used to.

Probably just your memory playing tricks on you after not seeing him in this kind of setting for a while. But if true, he'd be looking at some hardware that's better than Calder this year. :whistle:

Yanda
09-18-2015, 10:05 AM
Team Negrin, Team Sieloff, Team Pelech... see were starting a bit..

polak
09-18-2015, 10:13 AM
Hmmm...

Gaudreau-Monahan-________
________-Bennett-Hudler (LW/RW)
________-Backlund-Frolik (LW/RW)
________-Stajan-Jones

________ is quite versatile. I think we should play him in net though.

Please don't ban me for the poor quality of that joke.

Yorkshire Flame
09-18-2015, 10:23 AM
________ is quite versatile. I think we should play him in net though.

Please don't ban me for the poor quality of that joke.

Mods!!

PugnaciousIntern
09-18-2015, 10:25 AM
Might be some nagging injuries with the two d-men.

Yikes, not good to start off training camp already injured. Hope it's just warming up to the pace

SuperMatt18
09-18-2015, 10:26 AM
________ is quite versatile. I think we should play him in net though.

Please don't ban me for the poor quality of that joke.

http://thespudd.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/banhammer.jpg

AC
09-18-2015, 10:27 AM
Agostino with 2 good chances so far, hit the post on the last.

Who got the 2 goals?

AC
09-18-2015, 10:28 AM
Poirier with a great rush going through a D man to get a chance.

AC
09-18-2015, 10:31 AM
Bouma - Backs - Frolik with a good PP shift, almost a goal for Bouma but the goalie Simpson robbed him.

IliketoPuck
09-18-2015, 10:40 AM
Thanks for the updates fellas. Keep 'em coming for us schlubs at work today.....

AC
09-18-2015, 10:43 AM
Gaudreau continues to look like he's playing a different game than everybody else, just weaves his way through 3 players like they weren't even there, stops up and sets up a D man for a scoring chance.

CroFlames
09-18-2015, 10:45 AM
Gaudreau continues to look like he's playing a different game than everybody else, just weaves his way through 3 players like they weren't even there, stops up and sets up a D man for a scoring chance.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111159183/3806775-8268480290-c2631.jpg

AC
09-18-2015, 10:49 AM
Mangiapane always impresses me.

Also this Simpson goalie made some ridiculous saves, ends 2-0 for Red/McDonald. I didn't get to see the goals.

Caged Great
09-18-2015, 10:52 AM
The two goals were I believe Brodie banking it in off the goalie and Jooris setting up Agostino for a tap in. Kent Simpson looked good in the shutout.

Gaudreau looks better than he did and he was great before.

polak
09-18-2015, 10:56 AM
These Gaudreau looking better comments are hard to not get excited about but I keep remembering that most of the players on the ice are not NHL caliber. Still, it's a good sign that he has shown up, ready to go.

Is it October yet?

AltaGuy
09-18-2015, 11:02 AM
Some guys who impressed me:

Johnson - has a definite chance to make the team. Physical, good skater, poised. Really liked him on first viewing.

Colborne - Does look bigger. Good puck protection.

Mangiapane - A waterbug. Great draft pick. Could end up exceeding expectations. Dangerous with the puck.

Kylington - Showed his escapability a few times, his skating is just absurd. Will be exciting to see how he progresses.

As mentioned, Backlund line was the best line. Gaudreau was Gaudreau. Brodie, Brodie.

Engelland - Still a black hole, unfortunately (exoected nothing but...) He just doesn't have puck skills and he and Brodie were pinned a lot, which is silly given his partner is in the top-30 of all NHL defencemen.

Granlund - Wanted to see more. Continues to underwhelm. Ditto Shore and Poirier.

I'll write a little more later.

CroFlames
09-18-2015, 11:03 AM
These Gaudreau looking better comments are hard to not get excited about but I keep remembering that most of the players on the ice are not NHL caliber. Still, it's a good sign that he has shown up, ready to go.

Is it October yet?

The Gaudreau comments are making the wait for puck drop even more agonizing haha.

Fighting Banana Slug
09-18-2015, 11:09 AM
Some guys who impressed me:

Johnson - has a definite chance to make the team. Physical, good skater, poised. Really liked him on first viewing.

Colborne - Does look bigger. Good puck protection.

Mangiapane - A waterbug. Great draft pick. Could end up exceeding expectations. Dangerous with the puck.

Kylington - Showed his escapability a few times, his skating is just absurd. Will be exciting to see how he progresses.

As mentioned, Backlund line was the best line. Gaudreau was Gaudreau. Brodie, Brodie.

Engelland - Still a black hole, unfortunately (exoected nothing but...) He just doesn't have puck skills and he and Brodie were pinned a lot, which is silly given his partner is in the top-30 of all NHL defencemen.

Granlund - Wanted to see more. Continues to underwhelm. Ditto Shore and Poirier.

I'll write a little more later.

Johnson? Who is that? Sounds more like the guy in the red shirt from Star Trek.

AltaGuy
09-18-2015, 11:17 AM
Aaron Johnson - journeyman vet? I think haha.

Although I've realized that I was watching Wotherspoon a lot and got the two confused. Wotherspoon looked quite good and now I can't differentiate my opinions of the two. Haha

Fighting Banana Slug
09-18-2015, 11:21 AM
Aaron Johnson - journeyman vet? I think haha.

Although I've realized that I was watching Wotherspoon a lot and got the two confused. Wotherspoon looked quite good and now I can't differentiate my opinions of the two. Haha

Gotcha, forgot about him.

Just busting your chops a bit, but I do appreciate the updates.

Komskies
09-18-2015, 11:49 AM
They should just use players' names once when doing the team names. Eventually, I hope to see Team Domenichelli, Team Bassen, and Team Hale 20 years down the line.

Team Loyns?

You Need a Thneed
09-18-2015, 11:54 AM
Team Fuhr?

saillias
09-18-2015, 11:59 AM
Team Baertschi vs Team Fata.

YYC in LAX
09-18-2015, 12:01 PM
A lot of real knee slappers going on in this thread today

Demetric
09-18-2015, 12:08 PM
Team O'Brien

polak
09-18-2015, 12:11 PM
Instead of posting a list of cuts, they should tell the players being cut that they've made Team Erixon.

Caged Great
09-18-2015, 12:31 PM
something interesting is that gio isn't firing the puck overly hard. might just be the drills, but his wrister seems off

flambers
09-18-2015, 12:39 PM
something interesting is that gio isn't firing the puck overly hard. might just be the drills, but his wrister seems off

My guess its the drills, media types were saying Gio is 100% healthy.

Caged Great
09-18-2015, 12:43 PM
That's what I heard as well. Group C though is doing a completely different set of drills than A and B which were shot heavy. Probably nothing to be concerned about. Just something that I'll be keeping an eye on.

btimbit
09-18-2015, 12:50 PM
Are these free to attend? I'm off all week and completely forgot about it

BurningSteel
09-18-2015, 01:00 PM
Are these free to attend? I'm off all week and completely forgot about it

Yes..... Even parking is free....... Not sure how traffic is with b the construction?

Bourque's Twin
09-18-2015, 01:07 PM
Team Amonte
Team Friesen
Team Nolan

edslunch
09-18-2015, 01:36 PM
Please stop with team names

Robbob
09-18-2015, 01:48 PM
Team Fuhr?

Team Smith scoring on Team Fuhr?

Caged Great
09-18-2015, 02:22 PM
Are these free to attend? I'm off all week and completely forgot about it

Yes, just walk in and take a seat. The seating area was only 1/2 full for the practices and 2/3 full for the scrimmage

Ben Dover
09-18-2015, 03:02 PM
Was able to watch the game (Team A vs Team B) and watch the practices for Team B & C.

- Mangiapane - Best rookie on the ice by far. He was flying out there and is not afraid to go in to the corners. Pretty weak shot but that is to be expected. During the game, he gave the goalie (#40 Simpson) a snow shower right before getting crosschecked in the face by Kanzig.

- Brodie & Englelland - While Brodie already looks in mid-season form, Engelland just cannot seem to keep up with his pace. Brodie is too good a player to be covering for Engelland's turnovers, who could not complete a breakout pass all game.

- Hamilton - Was excited to watch him in action. Comes as described - tall, lanky, and a smooth skater. Maybe the rumors of him having the flu are accurate, because the guy was hunched over for the duration of practice and could barely skate by the end of it. Him and Giordano were paired together and looked pretty good. Gio looks small next to him.

- Colborne - somehow got even faster with the weight gain. Was controlling the puck around the boards with ease.

- Russell & Wideman - does not seem to me this pairing is getting broken up any time soon. By far the two best players for Team B during the game. Russell is so good at walking the blueline and keeping the puck in the zone.

Will provide more info as it comes to mind or just ask if you'd like to know about specific players.

Nice to see the whole Flames brass (Burke, Treliving, Conroy) watch every practice like hawks in their little glass room.

FBI
09-18-2015, 03:07 PM
Specific players: Kylington, Gaudreau, PTO's, Monahan

D as in David
09-18-2015, 03:10 PM
I'd be curious to know how Shore is doing. IMO, he is one of the big question marks of this pre-season.

Ben Dover
09-18-2015, 03:17 PM
Gaudreau & Monahan - only watched them during in game action. It was quite difficult to focus on Team A forwards as their goal was on the far end. Gaudreau looked like his usual self - dancing and weaving through the opposition and creating chances. Really did not notice Monahan much during the game to be honest. Ferland was the other member on their line.

Kylington - His skating allows him to keep up with Hartley's intense drills during practice. Seemed pretty comfortable out there during offensive drills. Like Russell, he is also good at controlling the blueline.

PTOs - No chance Douglas Murray is getting an NHL contract anytime soon. Aaron Johnson threw a big hit and knocked some poor rookie in to the glass.

hockey.modern
09-18-2015, 03:33 PM
What time is this running till?

MisterJoji
09-18-2015, 03:34 PM
Was able to watch the game (Team A vs Team B) and watch the practices for Team B & C.

- Mangiapane - Best rookie on the ice by far. He was flying out there and is not afraid to go in to the corners. Pretty weak shot but that is to be expected. During the game, he gave the goalie (#40 Simpson) a snow shower right before getting crosschecked in the face by Kanzig.

- Brodie & Englelland - While Brodie already looks in mid-season form, Engelland just cannot seem to keep up with his pace. Brodie is too good a player to be covering for Engelland's turnovers, who could not complete a breakout pass all game.

- Hamilton - Was excited to watch him in action. Comes as described - tall, lanky, and a smooth skater. Maybe the rumors of him having the flu are accurate, because the guy was hunched over for the duration of practice and could barely skate by the end of it. Him and Giordano were paired together and looked pretty good. Gio looks small next to him.

- Colborne - somehow got even faster with the weight gain. Was controlling the puck around the boards with ease.

- Russell & Wideman - does not seem to me this pairing is getting broken up any time soon. By far the two best players for Team B during the game. Russell is so good at walking the blueline and keeping the puck in the zone.

Will provide more info as it comes to mind or just ask if you'd like to know about specific players.

Nice to see the whole Flames brass (Burke, Treliving, Conroy) watch every practice like hawks in their little glass room.

Having too many top 2 defenseman is a nice problem to have, but I really hope someone steps up and steals Engelland's spot. I'll feel bad for Brodie if he goes from riding shotgun with Giordano to being saddled with Engelland.

Mony
09-18-2015, 03:54 PM
Just need a refresher about pre-season games because I just found out my dad won tickets for us for the BoA on Monday! Sweet seats too.

Since it's split squad, if I recall correctly, the "best" players for the Flames usually play the Calgary game and the "best" players for the Oilers usually play at the Rexall game, correct? So that each home crowd has a good chance to see their team win, so to speak.

savardandjokinen
09-18-2015, 04:05 PM
How were karnaukhov and Arnold?

David Struch
09-18-2015, 04:18 PM
Gaudreau – Monahan - Ferland
Agostino - Grandlund - Jooris/Smith

Klimchuk – Bennett - Hudler
Raymond – Stajan - Jones

Bouma – Backlund - Frolik
Colborne - Mangiapane – Shore/Porier

hockey.modern
09-18-2015, 05:20 PM
Gaudreau – Monahan - Ferland

Agostino - Grandlund - Jooris/Smith



Klimchuk – Bennett - Hudler

Raymond – Stajan - Jones



Bouma – Backlund - Frolik

Colborne - Mangiapane – Shore/Porier


What's this for?

CMPunk
09-18-2015, 05:21 PM
What's this for?

Lines for players in the same groups?

IgnitedSoul
09-18-2015, 06:23 PM
Was able to watch the game (Team A vs Team B) and watch the practices for Team B & C.

- Mangiapane - Best rookie on the ice by far. He was flying out there and is not afraid to go in to the corners. Pretty weak shot but that is to be expected. During the game, he gave the goalie (#40 Simpson) a snow shower right before getting crosschecked in the face by Kanzig.

[...]

How did you skip the part where Mangiapane then tried to punch Kanzig in the face?

https://41.media.tumblr.com/79dc133c7452dbcfc1369443e54330f6/tumblr_nuwe8hNJvY1qkdxm3o1_1280.jpg

hockey.modern
09-18-2015, 08:37 PM
Calgary Flames D Dougie Hamilton impresses coach & captain on first day
http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/09/18/calgary-flames-d-dougie-hamilton-impresses-coach--captain-on-first-day

“I don’t know if you watched the skating tests at the end, but I believe he was the fastest of his group,” beamed Flames head coach Bob Hartley. “We told you we got younger, we got bigger and we got faster. Well ... here’s the proof right there — he was the fastest player in the skating test.”


“He destroyed everybody in the mountain, so that was pretty impressive,” marvelled Mark Giordano, the backbone of the Flames’ blueline brigade. “But I think one stride is worth three of anyone else’s, so it’s a little easier for him.

“He’s an impressive skater, for sure. He’s a lot like (fellow Flames defenceman TJ Brodie) — he just skates really well and it just seems so effortless and easy for them and pisses off the rest of the guys who don’t skate so smooth.”

The boss was impressed.

The captain was impressed.

And the new guy?

“I was just trying to breathe after.”

Freeway
09-18-2015, 08:51 PM
Just need a refresher about pre-season games because I just found out my dad won tickets for us for the BoA on Monday! Sweet seats too.

Since it's split squad, if I recall correctly, the "best" players for the Flames usually play the Calgary game and the "best" players for the Oilers usually play at the Rexall game, correct? So that each home crowd has a good chance to see their team win, so to speak.

That is correct.

Robo
09-18-2015, 08:54 PM
how did mangiapane fall to the 6th round? everything I hear about him is so positive

H2SO4(aq)
09-18-2015, 09:23 PM
Gonna be going tomorrow, ill be wearing my Yelle jersey.

hockey.modern
09-18-2015, 09:24 PM
What time does it start and end tomorrow?

T@T
09-18-2015, 09:39 PM
how did mangiapane fall to the 6th round? everything I hear about him is so positive
Small, late bloomer, I think he actually was eligible for the draft in 2014 and was passed over. In any case it was good scouting to see his will/character to become a pro hockey player. and no doubt, he will be.

H2SO4(aq)
09-18-2015, 09:41 PM
Small, late bloomer, I think he actually was eligible for the draft in 2014 and was passed over. In any case it was good scouting to see his will/character to become a pro hockey player. and no doubt, he will be.

Heard him compared to a Gallagher/Marchand type guy. he a bit of a pest? never watched him

IgnitedSoul
09-18-2015, 09:45 PM
What time does it start and end tomorrow?

Starts at 9 (though they tend to hit the ice a few minutes before) and ends around 1:30, if it's the same as today.

badger89
09-18-2015, 09:59 PM
Bouma - Backs - Frolik with a good PP shift, almost a goal for Bouma but the goalie Simpson robbed him.
Get used to seeing that line shutting down the other teams top line. [emoji1]

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T@T
09-18-2015, 10:14 PM
Heard him compared to a Gallagher/Marchand type guy. he a bit of a pest? never watched him
Don't think a pest is really him if you mean he wants to drive other players crazy and use cheapshots, but he looks to me like he has more of a Fleury type demeanor where he fights for every bit of ice and chirps like a bird to get it.

Caged Great
09-18-2015, 11:35 PM
He (Mangiapane) and Kanzig got into a shoving match during the scrimmage and he didn't back down at all. Ballsy player for sure. Love the compete in him. He'll be a gamer that's for sure.

The reason he fell down so far and was skipped was because last year was the first time he did anything good and people weren't sure if it was a flash in the pan because that happens. It's different to take a risk on someone 6-2 if they show that flash, but a 5-8 to 5-10 guy, that's a whole different set of circumstances.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 08:56 AM
They are back on the ice.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 09:03 AM
Poirier is having a rough go of it thus far. Nothing clicking yet for him. Colborne looks a lot faster, one of the fastest forwards today.

Heavy Jack
09-19-2015, 09:12 AM
Poirier is having a rough go of it thus far. Nothing clicking yet for him. Colborne looks a lot faster, one of the fastest forwards today.

How is Billy Arnold looking?? He had a great prospect tourney IMO and I'm hoping he keeps the momentum going.

Benched
09-19-2015, 09:21 AM
I can't begin to say how much I appreciate the updates from the rink. It's completely awesome! Thank you.

sureLoss
09-19-2015, 09:39 AM
Lines for Team B per Derek Wills:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPRtKLMUcAAT7HO.jpg:medium

FBI
09-19-2015, 09:55 AM
Kylington/Murray
Talk about opposites.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 09:57 AM
How is Billy Arnold looking?? He had a great prospect tourney IMO and I'm hoping he keeps the momentum going.

I'll let you know when the scrimmage is on. He is out there now.

kyuss275
09-19-2015, 10:06 AM
If you could let us know how Raymond is looking with Bennett and Hudler, it would be great. Raymond is being given a great opportunity to get his game back playing with those 2. If he can't take advantage, i see him eating a lot of popcorn this year followed with a buyout.

Enoch Root
09-19-2015, 10:13 AM
If you could let us know how Raymond is looking with Bennett and Hudler, it would be great. Raymond is being given a great opportunity to get his game back playing with those 2. If he can't take advantage, i see him eating a lot of popcorn this year followed with a buyout.

I think it's a pretty big stretch to think that they will still be together to start the regular season.

Even if Raymond is playing well and makes the opening night roster, that would be a tiny and soft line - can't see it happening.

We should probably wait for the first 20 or 30 cuts before we get too excited about who's playing with who.

Street Pharmacist
09-19-2015, 10:14 AM
Looks like Bob is doing the Forward pairs. Johnny and Monahan, so Hudler and Bennett? Makes sense as Bob uses Hudler as a chaperone for the young guys

kyuss275
09-19-2015, 10:22 AM
I think it's a pretty big stretch to think that they will still be together to start the regular season.

Even if Raymond is playing well and makes the opening night roster, that would be a tiny and soft line - can't see it happening.

We should probably wait for the first 20 or 30 cuts before we get too excited about who's playing with who.


Sorry my writing skills are horrible. My post came across as if that would be a line in regular season. I just meant that he is been given a chance to show off his skills during camp playing with players with some skill. Quite honestly i figured he would be starting on scrimmage lines with young players that didn't have much of a chance of making the roster. I personally don't see a fit for Raymond on a regular basis for this team.

sureLoss
09-19-2015, 10:28 AM
Derek Wills @Fan960Wills
David Jones looks fantastic...he's skating really well and getting a lot of scoring chances. #Flames

Vinny01
09-19-2015, 10:34 AM
I think it's a pretty big stretch to think that they will still be together to start the regular season.

Even if Raymond is playing well and makes the opening night roster, that would be a tiny and soft line - can't see it happening.

We should probably wait for the first 20 or 30 cuts before we get too excited about who's playing with who.

I don't think any line withSam Bennett would be considered soft. If they are not talking about his speed or skill they talk about grit

hockey.modern
09-19-2015, 10:40 AM
@Fan960Wills: Sam Bennett and Jiri Hudler are playing together for a second straight day...they seem to have some chemistry. #Flames

@Fan960Steinberg: No Mason Raymond for Group C today, out with the flu. #Flames

@Fan960Steinberg: Hathaway back on the ice after missing yesterday with illness. Hiller good to return later on too, also sick yesterday. #Flames

Imported_Aussie
09-19-2015, 10:42 AM
It is hard right now not to get excited about this team and how they will line up!

I hope Wotherspoon takes the next step - if Brodie wants to keep playing on the right, that could be a good pairing to get Wotherspoon settled, then load up TJ with special teams minutes and the odd shift with Gio at 5 on 5 (especially 3rd period).

Colborne sounds like he is coming on well - either him or Hudler should be on Bennett's line, or perhaps both? At least one guy on Bennett's line should be able to take faceoffs well, to ease pressure on the rookie. I like the addition of Frolik as it gives the team another guy who can go with Backlund and take tough matchups.

Maybe the lines end up something like this:

#1 = Gaudreau - Monahan - Colborne
#2a = Bouma - Backlund - Frolik = tough matchups
#2b = Hudler - Bennett - Jooris = Jooris here for RS faceoff spot duty
#4 = Ferland - Stajan - Jones

Giordano - Hamilton
Russell - Wideman
Wotherspoon - Brodie = with Brodie getting up-shifted a few times


PP = Gaudreau - Monahan - Hudler - Giordano - Wideman
PP2 = Colborne - Bennett - Jones - Brodie - Hamilton

PK = Backlund - Frolik - Giordano - Hamilton
PK2 = Stajan - Jooris - Russell - Brodie

4on4 = Gaudreau - Monahan - Giordano - Hamilton
4on4 2 = Hudler - Backlund - Brodie - Wideman

No Wotherspoon on special teams, nor the two hitting forwards (Bouma, Ferland) to manage their minutes for effectiveness.


That is one solid, balanced lineup! Bring on October!

Cole436
09-19-2015, 10:42 AM
Derek Wills @Fan960Wills
David Jones looks fantastic...he's skating really well and getting a lot of scoring chances. #Flames

I saw him last week with his wife and newborn. He looked in amazing shape.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 10:45 AM
Arnold has been really good thus far. set up Andersson for a goal

bigbadboss101
09-19-2015, 10:45 AM
Kylington/Murray
Talk about opposites.

Thunder and Lightning.

PugnaciousIntern
09-19-2015, 10:45 AM
Poirier is having a rough go of it thus far. Nothing clicking yet for him. Colborne looks a lot faster, one of the fastest forwards today.

I'm glad, Colborne's a player that you just know has more potential.

Too bad about Poirier, I was hoping he would be clawing for a spot this year. We'll see!

Street Pharmacist
09-19-2015, 10:47 AM
Thunder and Lightning.
I was thinking more tortoise and hare

Heavy Jack
09-19-2015, 10:57 AM
Arnold has been really good thus far. set up Andersson for a goal

awesome!!! Thanks CG :)

t0rrent98
09-19-2015, 11:39 AM
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12039266_10153257477972637_5927722808765609721_n.j pg?oh=5628074aff32ecc38cabac0be992bbf4&oe=569C9678

Hiller's new set. Not sure if I am a fan of the white on his pads. His last years were better.

hockey.modern
09-19-2015, 11:43 AM
Woah, I like those better, hopefully he uses his retro mask with it.

Ashasx
09-19-2015, 11:53 AM
I think too much yellow on those

more ketchup less mustard

Jables16
09-19-2015, 11:54 AM
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12039266_10153257477972637_5927722808765609721_n.j pg?oh=5628074aff32ecc38cabac0be992bbf4&oe=569C9678

Hiller's new set. Not sure if I am a fan of the white on his pads. His last years were better.

They might just be practice gear. Last year in camp Hiller had gear with orange highlights that never showed up in games. Goalies often have blockers and trappers for practice only with extra padding in certain areas that are a bit stiffer and more impractical but better for preventing fluke injuries.

getbak
09-19-2015, 11:56 AM
They look like an optical illusion. Hopefully they'll confuse shooters.

Pierre "Monster" McGuire
09-19-2015, 11:57 AM
I never even considered the possibility of splitting up the top line, but if Bennett and Hudler can develop chemistry, you could have a ridiculously effective four lines.

RobbieT
09-19-2015, 12:09 PM
Anderson is impressive, but at times I thought he looked a little slow at practice... Bennet looks great! Liked Kulak... Loving Ferland with Johnny and Monahan.

hockey.modern
09-19-2015, 12:13 PM
@Fan960Wills: Team McDonald lines / pairings

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPSQk-zUsAAS7ky.jpg

Vinny01
09-19-2015, 12:26 PM
I never even considered the possibility of splitting up the top line, but if Bennett and Hudler can develop chemistry, you could have a ridiculously effective four lines.

Hudler has been rookie magic since the rebuild began. Monahan played with him nearly the whole year in 2013 and Johnny last year. Putting him with Bennett is not shocking and neither is having a big physical winger playing with Johnny.

Depending how the season goes I would t be surprised to see either Hudler reunited with Monahan and Johnny or have Johnny slide down to play with Bennett and Hudler

Pierre "Monster" McGuire
09-19-2015, 12:32 PM
Hudler has been rookie magic since the rebuild began. Monahan played with him nearly the whole year in 2013 and Johnny last year. Putting him with Bennett is not shocking and neither is having a big physical winger playing with Johnny.

Depending how the season goes I would t be surprised to see either Hudler reunited with Monahan and Johnny or have Johnny slide down to play with Bennett and Hudler

That's exactly it. Hartley must be wetting his pants. There are just so many combinations to play with. If a line goes stale during the season, it won't be hard to make adjustments.

Hudler being magic with rookies should lead us to believe he'll start the season alongside Bennett.

Flames_F.T.W
09-19-2015, 01:05 PM
Anyone with a summary of the scrimmage today??

Neeper
09-19-2015, 01:08 PM
That's exactly it. Hartley must be wetting his pants. There are just so many combinations to play with. If a line goes stale during the season, it won't be hard to make adjustments.

Hudler being magic with rookies should lead us to believe he'll start the season alongside Bennett.


I'm wetting my pants.

getbak
09-19-2015, 01:10 PM
I'm wetting my pants.

4WCa5qOQ-DA

sureLoss
09-19-2015, 01:31 PM
Derek Wills @Fan960Wills
Keegan Kanzig wins mountain climb heat that includes TJ Brodie! The big man is in great shape

Bandwagon In Flames
09-19-2015, 01:39 PM
Derek Wills @Fan960Wills
Keegan Kanzig wins mountain climb heat that includes TJ Brodie! The big man is in great shape

Kanzig is most definitely in great shape (FWIW he had the lowest body fat % on the team), but I mean it's a mountain climb. A 6'7" giant could out mountain climb anyone regardless of their shape.

If Kanzig doesn't make it as an NHLer, he should try another sport. Football maybe?

polak
09-19-2015, 01:42 PM
Bummed to hear Porier is struggling so far. I really hope he gets it together and builds on that solid AHL season. It still super early but he is eerily reminding me of the dark days of our prospects where they'd have decent potential but never reach it. I have no reasoning or evidence to support my hunch, just a gut feeling. I hope I'm wrong!

CMPunk
09-19-2015, 01:43 PM
Kanzig is most definitely in great shape (FWIW he had the lowest body fat % on the team), but I mean it's a mountain climb. A 6'7" giant could out mountain climb anyone regardless of their shape.

If Kanzig doesn't make it as an NHLer, he should try another sport. Football maybe?

Are you sure you know what a mountain climb is? It tests speed and endurance...being 6'7 has nothing to do with it

JohnnyT
09-19-2015, 01:46 PM
Are you sure you know what a mountain climb is? It tests speed and endurance...being 6'7 has nothing to do with it

Stride length might help a bit, but certainly more to due with endurance and speed.

For those who don't know mount climbers are basically wind sprints:
-Icing line to close blue line back to icing line
-Icing line to red line back to icing line
-Icing line to far blue line back to icing line
-Icing line to icing line back to icing line

cracher
09-19-2015, 01:54 PM
Need to see a video clip before I believe that Kanzig beat TJ in a drill involving multiple stop/accelerate sequences.

TJ probably stopped to tie his skate up in the middle of the heat.

Fire
09-19-2015, 01:55 PM
Derek Wills @Fan960Wills
David Jones looks fantastic...he's skating really well and getting a lot of scoring chances. #Flames

Final year of his deal, maybe he comes up with a big season. He will need a big season or he's pretty much a PTO candidate next season. Staying healthy would help a lot as well, but that's unlikely.

hockey.modern
09-19-2015, 02:00 PM
@Fan960Steinberg: Some injury updates from Hartley: Gillies is progressing but still under concussion protocol. Raymond (flu) expected back tomorrow. #Flames

@Fan960Steinberg: Hartley also said Byron (wrist) and Smid (neck) won't take part on-ice until after Monday's preseason opener at the earliest. #Flames

heep223
09-19-2015, 02:08 PM
So many guys that can play up and down the lineup and so many intriguing line combos. Great balance of skill speed and toughness through the F lineup and D looking tops in the league.

This is the most excited I've been prior to a season...I think ever.

Bandwagon In Flames
09-19-2015, 02:25 PM
Are you sure you know what a mountain climb is? It tests speed and endurance...being 6'7 has nothing to do with it

It has something to do with it when you put two guys who both have insane endurance and conditioning. That extra leg span makes a big deal when you are going uphill or downhill on dirt. As someone who is 6'4" myself, I can say my leg-span helps compensate for my crappy stamina when hiking or playing sports in general.

And just to be clear, I'm not trying to discredit what Kanzig did or his athletic abilities.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 02:29 PM
Kanzig won it by a mile as well, Brodie had just crossed the blue line when Kanzig finished and Brodie was 3rd. The other guy was in the face off circle. It was not even remotely close.

BigRed
09-19-2015, 02:36 PM
Had no idea kanzig had that kind of skating speed and agility. Brodie's not a super speedster but his agility is top end. Impressive.

hockey.modern
09-19-2015, 02:36 PM
How did today's sessions go? Any standouts etc

saillias
09-19-2015, 02:37 PM
It has something to do with it when you put two guys who both have insane endurance and conditioning. That extra leg span makes a big deal when you are going uphill or downhill on dirt. As someone who is 6'4" myself, I can say my leg-span helps compensate for my crappy stamina when hiking or playing sports in general.

And just to be clear, I'm not trying to discredit what Kanzig did or his athletic abilities.

It's not literally a climb up a mountain it's a hockey drill (one of the most dreaded) involving a lot of back and forth skating and stopping. Hamilton won yesterday

RobbieT
09-19-2015, 02:44 PM
Lines!?!

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Colborne - Bennett - Hudler
Bouma - Backlund - Frolik
Raymond - Stajan - Jones
Jooris, Bollig

Hamilton - Giordano
Wideman - Brodie
Engelland - Russell
Smid

Hiller
Ramo

In reality these are your starters, unless trades or burying contracts. Still nice looking 4 lines and great looking defence with 'ok' goaltending. I really love Ferland on the 1st line to add size and strength. Colborne does the same, with a different skill set of course, on the 'second line' and that leaves a killer third/shut down line! Fourth line will change based on team, but would expect Raymond to get more time than Jooris or Bollig... And Byron needs to fit in somewhere as well.

Realistically, I expect some trades to occur, but not sure what to expect.

Thoughts?

Enoch Root
09-19-2015, 02:50 PM
I don't think any line withSam Bennett would be considered soft. If they are not talking about his speed or skill they talk about grit

I know Bennett is greasy, thanks.

The point is that he is 19 and there is no way in hell that he will have TWO small and soft wingers. No chance.

One, sure.

Vinny01
09-19-2015, 03:12 PM
I know Bennett is greasy, thanks.

The point is that he is 19 and there is no way in hell that he will have TWO small and soft wingers. No chance.

One, sure.

Monahan did it last year at 20 so not sure why you are so absolutely certain in your opinion. Bennett is likely to engage more physically and be considered grittier than Monahan. Just not sure why you would say that would be such a soft line?

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 03:12 PM
How did today's sessions go? Any standouts etc

Bennett was great with Hudler. Arnold was very good as was Jooris. Gaudreau was good as usual. Monahan hasn't been quite as noticeable. Colborne and Jones look very good, and fast. Hamilton is awesome. If there's anyone else that you'd like to know about, let me know.

On a worrying note, Gio's shot is not good at all. He might be 100%, but that shot is not, at least during the camp thus far. No strength on it and his wrister is limp compared to what it was.

Vulcan
09-19-2015, 03:13 PM
My thoughts are we may see some NHL quality players demoted to the AHL and not just with us but league wide if the number of players on PTOs is a sign. This will cause fallout to some of our decent prospects going down to the ECHL.

Karl
09-19-2015, 03:15 PM
How did Stajan do?

Enoch Root
09-19-2015, 03:15 PM
Monahan did it last year at 20 so not sure why you are so absolutely certain in your opinion. Bennett is likely to engage more physically and be considered grittier than Monahan. Just not sure why you would say that would be such a soft line?

Monahan was a year and a half in before they put that line together

We'll see who Bennett starts with.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 03:17 PM
How did Stajan do?

He did not stand out much, just there. He played just like he normally does. I thought Arnold was actually more impressive.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 03:21 PM
I wouldn't put any stock in combinations. Hartley said in the scrum that he is looking for twosomes that will stick together. Johnny and Mony are a duo that will be sticking though for the time being. Hudler and Bennett seem to have some chemistry so that's another duo that may stick. The 3rd player on each line will likely cycle through until there is synergy on the line.

I could see any of Colborne, Jones, Frolik, and Jooris be paired with Gaudreau and Monahan over the course of the camp to see if anything is there.

Textcritic
09-19-2015, 03:55 PM
Bennett was great with Hudler. Arnold was very good as was Jooris. Gaudreau was good as usual. Monahan hasn't been quite as noticeable. Colborne and Jones look very good, and fast. Hamilton is awesome...
Didn't Monahan also have a very quiet camp last year? I'm not at all concerned about how he shows before the season starts. He was the Flames best forward out of the gate in 2014.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 03:58 PM
Didn't Monahan also have a very quiet camp last year? I'm not at all concerned about how he shows before the season starts. He was the Flames best forward out of the gate in 2014.

Yes, I'm not worried.

The only person that is concerning in any way is Gio with his shot. The rest of his game is good though, even if his shot is lacking for the time being.

Cole436
09-19-2015, 04:00 PM
Yes, I'm not worried.

The only person that is concerning in any way is Gio with his shot. The rest of his game is good though, even if his shot is lacking for the time being.

Is it the hardness? The release? What's looking off about it?

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 04:00 PM
Ryan Wilson from what I've watched thus far is deserving of a contract and maybe a roster spot alongside Brodie. He has looked better than Engelland thus far.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 04:02 PM
Is it the hardness? The release? What's looking off about it?

It's very weak. His slap shot looks like it's going around 70-75 MPH and his wrister would be easy for any experienced defender to knock down mid air.

It's tough to tell if he's just taking it easy or not until it's actually game time.

GranteedEV
09-19-2015, 04:05 PM
Ryan Wilson from what I've watched thus far is deserving of a contract and maybe a roster spot alongside Brodie. He has looked better than Engelland thus far.

Would you sign him ahead of Wotherspoon getting the spot?

It's very weak. His slap shot looks like it's going around 70-75 MPH and his wrister would be easy for any experienced defender to knock down mid air. Not good.

I'm sure it'll be a while before he builds full strength back up in his arm, the good thing is that we've got Russell and Brodie who can QB the left side on the PP until Gio is 100%.

D as in David
09-19-2015, 04:10 PM
Bennett was great with Hudler. Arnold was very good as was Jooris. Gaudreau was good as usual. Monahan hasn't been quite as noticeable. Colborne and Jones look very good, and fast. Hamilton is awesome. If there's anyone else that you'd like to know about, let me know.

On a worrying note, Gio's shot is not good at all. He might be 100%, but that shot is not, at least during the camp thus far. No strength on it and his wrister is limp compared to what it was.

What are your thoughts on Shore so far?

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 04:11 PM
Would you sign him ahead of Wotherspoon getting the spot?

I haven't noticed Spoon at all. I didn't even know what group he was in, that's not good. I'll specifically look for him tomorrow to see exactly what he's doing.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 04:11 PM
What are your thoughts on Shore so far?

Too many forwards better than him. I'd waive him and hope he clears.

hockey.modern
09-19-2015, 04:13 PM
@Caged Great, how is Frolik looking?

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 04:15 PM
For me, the forwards that are clearly on the team

Gaudreau, Monahan, Hudler, Bennett, Colborne, Frolik, Backlund, Bouma, Jones.

The next guys on my list are Jooris, Ferland, Stajan, Arnold, Byron (only by what we know he can do as he's hurt), and Bollig

Everyone after that are guys that need to step it up, especially with 15 players listed above.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 04:17 PM
@Caged Great, how is Frolik looking?

Winger version of Backlund. Pretty good. Can't wait to see him in game action. The line of Bouma-Backs and Frolik looked great out there. If that sticks, that'll be one hell of a 3rd line.

Gaskal
09-19-2015, 04:26 PM
Ryan Wilson from what I've watched thus far is deserving of a contract and maybe a roster spot alongside Brodie. He has looked better than Engelland thus far.
Been waiting since camp started for a verdict of Wilson, so much thanks.

From the sounds of it, he's been so far as advertised - a big, hard-hitting d-man who is a real team-centered guy. I'd like to think of him as this year's version of Raphael Diaz, who was very serviceable on the bottom pairing. Could switch out with Engelland depending on opponent.

But the Flames badly, BADLY need that open-ice hitter to make opposing forwards paranoid about carrying in.
9DxnbrR-LPM

Freeway
09-19-2015, 04:27 PM
Highlight of today: Hartley stopping right at the beginning of the scrum, saying "I don't know who you are..." and introducing himself to Caged Great.

Gaskal
09-19-2015, 04:29 PM
Did CG introduce himself as "Also known by 'Caged Great' "?

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 04:32 PM
Did CG introduce himself as "Also known by 'Caged Great' "?

Of course not, although that would be both pathetic and amusing if I did.

Freeway
09-19-2015, 04:34 PM
Hartley knows everybody in every scrum and remembers names.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 04:39 PM
Hartley and Hudler are both good people from personal experience after meeting the pair today. Just another anecdote to add to the litany of other people's interactions with them

dammage79
09-19-2015, 04:45 PM
Haven't heard much of Nakladal so far.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 04:53 PM
Haven't heard much of Nakladal so far.

His shot is really hard.

GranteedEV
09-19-2015, 04:53 PM
His shot is really hard.

Accurate and Hard, or "10 feet wide but it looked cool" hard?

dammage79
09-19-2015, 04:54 PM
His shot is really hard.

Positionally any good? Or is he still climatizing to the NA rink size?

Nothing noteworthy defensively either I assume then.

Gaskal
09-19-2015, 04:56 PM
Considering he was touted to be a defensive defenceman, I'm not really alarmed that Nakladal was unnoticeable.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 04:56 PM
Accurate and Hard, or "10 feet wide but it looked cool" hard?

It got blocked three times in a row, although to be fair he was shooting it into a crowd for a tip. Not sure of the accuracy, because they did not reach the net, but they looked on target.

It wasn't as hard as Wideman's but it was closer to that than an average shot.

Calgary4LIfe
09-19-2015, 04:58 PM
I always get excited about Kanzig and his speed. You don't really notice it in games as much, however. Many people just disregard him completely, but he seems to be a physical phenom. Not just his build, but how fast he can move at that size. Didn't he also win mountain climbing last year (or placed fairly high anyways?). Lowry always raved about him, and stated Kanzig was the fastest Royal.

Lateral movement needs work. First step could be better too for sure. Top speed? Ridiculous - but not that practical. Still shows that this kid is a pretty special athlete, however, and apparently his character is impressive. He is still a reach to make the NHL, but I think anyone is foolish to write him off. Wouldn't be surprised to see him in the NHL in 2-4 years.

Caged Great
09-19-2015, 04:59 PM
Positionally any good? Or is he still climatizing to the NA rink size?

Nothing noteworthy defensively either I assume then.

He was steady in the game, still adjusting though.

It's hard because most of the guys are rusty still. Sloppy plays from mostly everyone from time to time.

GranteedEV
09-19-2015, 05:11 PM
I always get excited about Kanzig and his speed. You don't really notice it in games as much, however. Many people just disregard him completely, but he seems to be a physical phenom. Not just his build, but how fast he can move at that size. Didn't he also win mountain climbing last year (or placed fairly high anyways?). Lowry always raved about him, and stated Kanzig was the fastest Royal.

Lateral movement needs work. First step could be better too for sure. Top speed? Ridiculous - but not that practical. Still shows that this kid is a pretty special athlete, however, and apparently his character is impressive. He is still a reach to make the NHL, but I think anyone is foolish to write him off. Wouldn't be surprised to see him in the NHL in 2-4 years.

I'm not concerned about Kanzig's mobility. To me whether he makes the NHL depends 95% on the development of his puck-skills. Two-three years from now the Engelland Archtype will be a relic of the past.

hockey.modern
09-19-2015, 09:21 PM
Winners for the mountain:

HEAT 1: 1. Josh Jooris, 2. Kenny Agostino, 3. Gaudreau
HEAT 2: 1. Taylor Burke, 2. Ryan Lomberg, 3. Pavel Karnaukhov
HEAT 3: 1. Keegan Kanzig, 2. Tyler Wotherspoon, 3. Aaron Johnson

http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=779727&navid=DL|CGY|home

Gaudfather
09-19-2015, 09:25 PM
This Lomberg kid keeps making his name be noticed. I realize he is slated for Stockton this year but if he continues to progress, and given his work ethic, it will be interesting to see how his future pans out.

Textcritic
09-19-2015, 09:40 PM
I think it is telling that Gaudreau was the only roster player to place top-three in the mountain-climber heats.

It tells us what we need to know about the difference between players and prospects fighting for their jobs.

hockey.modern
09-19-2015, 09:58 PM
After working with Monahan & Gaudreau, Jiri Hudler turns attention to Sam Bennett
http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/09/19/after-working-with-monahan--gaudreau-jiri-hudler-turns-attention-to-sam-bennett

"I'm going to tell him the same thing I've been telling to Johnny and (Monahan) the year before -- 'Just play your game,' " Hudler said. "The message for them is 'Be confident. Believe in yourself. If you see a one-on-one battle, go for it.' I'd rather see Benny lose the puck in a battle, one-on-one, in their zone than be scared to make a move or be scared to go for it.

"It's just about helping them out with the details and encourage them to play their game and don't try to be something they're not. They've gotta explore their talents and their skills."

"It's just about helping them out with the details and encourage them to play their game and don't try to be something they're not. They've gotta explore their talents and their skills."

"Most young guys put a lot of pressure on themselves, and I think the first thing he told me when we found out we were going to be linemates was, 'Just have fun,' " Bennett said. "'Let's have fun out there,'

JurassicTunga12
09-19-2015, 10:14 PM
I hope Huds is around for a long time.

Funkhouser
09-19-2015, 10:44 PM
I hope he is the next extension

If we can jettison any of our poor contracts (Smid, Engelland, Raymond), hopefully we can get it done.

Hopefully 5x5 range

Vulcan
09-19-2015, 10:45 PM
I've been thinking that Bennett won't be in a position to rack up points this year being on the third line and all but if he's paired with Hudler, he'll be getting quality offensive ice time and a chance to pad his stats.

#-3
09-19-2015, 10:51 PM
After working with Monahan & Gaudreau, Jiri Hudler turns attention to Sam Bennett

I'm gonna say it. CALLED IT.

Hartley believes in this guy as a mentor.
And I believe in Hartley.

I'm gonna call it now, once Bennett has established himself in the NHL we will see
Hudler - Bennett - Poirier
Hudler will leave Calgary with an amazing legacy one day, if in no other way than the players who learnt how to be pros with him.

T@T
09-19-2015, 10:53 PM
I hope Huds is around for a long time.
As a coach?

Caged Great
09-20-2015, 08:48 AM
Huska Gelinas and Sigalet are on the ice waiting for the players to arrive.

savardandjokinen
09-20-2015, 09:09 AM
Who's been playing with hudler and bennett?

PugnaciousIntern
09-20-2015, 09:13 AM
Huska Gelinas and Sigalet are on the ice waiting for the players to arrive.

Waiting to see which players are late, to make cut decisions easier? The Ho-Sang effect?

Caged Great
09-20-2015, 09:17 AM
Raymond has been with Hudler and Bennett

Enoch Root
09-20-2015, 09:30 AM
Huska Gelinas and Sigalet are on the ice waiting for the players to arrive.

Hartley sleep in?

Alberta_Beef
09-20-2015, 09:53 AM
Hartley sleep in?he was up too late playing video games

Heavy Jack
09-20-2015, 09:57 AM
Huska Gelinas and Sigalet are on the ice waiting for the players to arrive.

And to everyone's surprise Josh Ho-Sang is the first one on the ice...

Caged Great
09-20-2015, 09:58 AM
Hartley sleep in?

He was there a few minutes after.

Raymond looked a little off in the practice, Jones Stajan and Klimchuk looked good, Arnold looked good.

Nakaladal was great out there in the drills. Wilson was good as well again.

Scrimmage starting in 2 min

Heavy Jack
09-20-2015, 10:00 AM
Im telling you, Arnold is my darkhorse to make the big team early this year, great to hear CG!

heep223
09-20-2015, 10:02 AM
Im telling you, Arnold is my darkhorse to make the big team early this year, great to hear CG!


Agreed. He seems to have a really consistent all around game.

Caged Great
09-20-2015, 10:04 AM
Monahan goal from a great play by Gaudreau, Andersson got undressed.

Heavy Jack
09-20-2015, 10:08 AM
I cant envision those two not improving on their numbers this year, insane combo.

Caged Great
09-20-2015, 10:11 AM
Klimchuk ties it with a good wrister beating Hiller blocker side.

AC
09-20-2015, 10:13 AM
Klimchuk ties it with a good wrister beating Hiller blocker side.

Off a great drop pass by Jones.

So... Who has the car with the license plate "YYCPUCK"?:w00t:

Caged Great
09-20-2015, 10:19 AM
Jooris made an excellent pass to Agostino for a breakaway and Agostino completely undressed Ortio for a goal.

Jiggy
09-20-2015, 10:20 AM
I know it's early, but I think to open the season the d pairings will look like this.

Gio Hamilton
Wilson Brodie
Russell Widedog

Not bad at all!

Alberta_Beef
09-20-2015, 10:21 AM
Off a great drop pass by Jones.

So... Who has the car with the license plate "YYCPUCK"?:w00t:I'd guess Bingo

hockey.modern
09-20-2015, 10:22 AM
How has Ortio been so far?

AC
09-20-2015, 10:27 AM
I love Gaudreau. So, so good.

Caged Great
09-20-2015, 10:28 AM
Agostino has been flying the entire time, Best I have ever seen him by a long shot.

Caged Great
09-20-2015, 10:29 AM
Ortio and Hiller are out of the game with Simpson replacing him and Schneider at the other end. Ortio was the better of the two.

Street Pharmacist
09-20-2015, 10:30 AM
I love Gaudreau. So, so good.
Why don't you marry him...

AC
09-20-2015, 10:32 AM
Jesus, absolute snipe by Johnny.

Caged Great
09-20-2015, 10:33 AM
Gaudreau popped the waterbottle. 3-1

hockey.modern
09-20-2015, 10:40 AM
Glad to see Gaudreau & Monahan having even more chemistry without the addition of Hudler.

@Fan960Wills: In their second season together, the chemistry between Johnny Gaudreau and Sean Monahan is off the charts. #Flames

AC
09-20-2015, 10:43 AM
Bennett with s snipe of his own

skudr248
09-20-2015, 10:43 AM
Is Ferland playing RW on their line?

PugnaciousIntern
09-20-2015, 10:45 AM
Off a great drop pass by Jones.

So... Who has the car with the license plate "YYCPUCK"?:w00t:

That's just awesome

Caged Great
09-20-2015, 10:54 AM
Ferland hit Hamilton pretty solidly early in the scrimmage and later Hamilton pretty much pushed him to the ground and beaked at him.

Ferland looked good with Johnny/Mony

Bandwagon In Flames
09-20-2015, 10:56 AM
Off a great drop pass by Jones.

So... Who has the car with the license plate "YYCPUCK"?:w00t:

Whoever it is, they win. Could be driving a Toyota Tercel and it wouldn't matter with that plate.


I'm loving these updates and very tempted to get tickets for tomorrow's game now. Not sure if I can wait until Friday for some live Flames hockey!

Moneyhands23
09-20-2015, 10:59 AM
Wčeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! So excited now that we get real live practice! Lol talk about being hockey starved! I have my tickets for the upcoming preseason game in vancouver!! Can't wait to see if theirs some bad blood in the preseason!!!!

Moneyhands23
09-20-2015, 11:00 AM
Thanks for the updates guys!!!

#wishistilllivedincalgary

Moneyhands23
09-20-2015, 11:01 AM
Thanks for the updates guys!!!

#wishistilllivedincalgary

Enoch Root
09-20-2015, 11:05 AM
Ferland hit Hamilton pretty solidly early in the scrimmage and later Hamilton pretty much pushed him to the ground and beaked at him.

Ferland looked good with Johnny/Mony

(working on the assumption that Hudler plays with Bennett)...

I would like to see Ferland play the left side with Bennett and Hudler.

However, if he fits on the right side with Gaudreau and Monahan, that might be even better for the Flames.

Either way, it boils down to this: if Ferland can show that he is ready for one of those two lines, the Flames are going to be so much deeper this year.

getbak
09-20-2015, 11:05 AM
I assume we'll be hearing the rosters for tomorrow's games sometime this afternoon once the on-ice sessions are over?

Da_Chief
09-20-2015, 11:06 AM
Love the updates and love the positives about Gaudreau-Monahan's chemistry, Agostino looking great, Ortio better of the two netminders.

Gaskal
09-20-2015, 11:09 AM
Gotta think that having Ferland on that line would open up a lot more space for Johnny and Mony to work - and those two are practically already ninjas as it is.

btimbit
09-20-2015, 11:14 AM
Ortio and Hiller are out of the game with Simpson replacing him and Schneider at the other end. Ortio was the better of the two.

http://www.gocurrycracker.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/cm-23138-050624abe3a9e6.jpeg

buyakasha
09-20-2015, 11:15 AM
oh boy

Gaudreau - Mony - Ferland
Colby - Bennett - Hudler
Bouma - Backs - Frolik
Jooris - Stajan - Jones

Royle9
09-20-2015, 11:15 AM
Some line up sheets were just passed out for tomorrow's split squad game. (Given to the scouts + huska)
Here's what I can see over shoulders

Calgary - home game
13 - 23 - 24
21 - 93 - 67
79 - 18 - 57
52 - 22 -

5 - 27

Edm
17 - 11 - 19
45 - 60 - 51
8 - 65 - 62
88 - 57 - 64

4 - 6
58 - 29
44 - 54

Using phone or I'd type more details, I got the stink eye from one of th conditioning coaches he caught me being nosey!
Investigative CP research worth it!

Gaskal
09-20-2015, 11:19 AM
Johnny - Mony - Hudler
Raymond - Bennett - Frolik
Ferland - Stajan - Grant
Bollig - Shore

Gio - Hamilton


That's gotta be for the home game. Crowd wants to see the return of Gio, the new additions and Sam.

getbak
09-20-2015, 11:21 AM
Since #57 is on both lists (and #28 isn't), I'm going to assume they forgot Poirier changed his number and the one on Stajan's wing is supposed to be Poirier, and Grant will be Mangiapane's centre in Edmonton.

calgaryblood
09-20-2015, 11:25 AM
Monahan just scored a beauty. Ferland looks great out there.

calgaryblood
09-20-2015, 11:33 AM
Brodie looks fantastic. Nobody beating him and he's taking every player wide and they're running out of room.

getbak
09-20-2015, 11:34 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing highlights from tomorrow's game up north of Bouma going all wrecking ball on McSaviour.


Are neither game televised tomorrow? I expected Sportsnet to have 24 hour coverage of every move McDavid makes.

hockey.modern
09-20-2015, 11:34 AM
Brodie looks fantastic. Nobody beating him and he's taking every player wide and they're running out of room.


Glad to see him doing better then the other days it seems

hockey.modern
09-20-2015, 11:35 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing highlights from tomorrow's game up north of Bouma going all wrecking ball on McSaviour.





Are neither game televised tomorrow? I expected Sportsnet to have 24 hour coverage of every move McDavid makes.


Not to sure if it will be on Sportsnet but for sure it's being streamed live on the flames website.

calgaryblood
09-20-2015, 11:55 AM
Only saw Hunter Smith today and his speed is really disappointing. He won't make the NHL skating like that.

jg13
09-20-2015, 11:56 AM
Game in Edmonton:

Bouma Backlund Jones
Klimchuk Granlund Agostino
Colborne Elson Carroll
Mangiapane Grant Hathaway

Russell Wideman
Kylington Engelland
Wilson Andersson

Enoch Root
09-20-2015, 12:00 PM
^ there's an example of Wilson rounding out the 8 veteran requirement

(though they could have sent Hiller or Ramo as well)

getbak
09-20-2015, 12:08 PM
^ there's an example of Wilson rounding out the 8 veteran requirement

(though they could have sent Hiller or Ramo as well)

Granlund played in enough games last season to count as a veteran for the preseason (30 GP minimum in the previous season -- he played in 48), so they'd still be good without Wilson and/or one of the goalies.