Flames vs Canucks | Young Stars Tournament @ 430 MDT

[jg13]

Free live stream available at http://flames.nhl.com
Puck drop at 4:30 MDT

These will be the projected lines/pairings for the Flames

Mangiapane-Arnold-Poirier
Marchment-Karnaukhov-Klimchuk
Van Brabant-Baillie-Carroll
Proulx-Burke-Smith

Kylington-Morrison
Sieloff-Bruce
Bell-Roy

Gillies

Here is the Canucks line up from yesterday

Gaunce - McCann - Virtanen
LaBate - Cassels - Zalewski
Shinkaruk - Zhukenov - Fox
Stewart - Gardiner - Martin

Hutton - Sautner
Brisebois - Subban
Olson - McEneny

Whistle

[CroFlames]

Anderson out for precaution or hurt?

I friggen like the cut of that kid's jib.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Thanks, I was just about to create this thread myself since I'm eager to talk about this match-up.

Looks like Vancouver is sending out their A-team for this one. Should be a more even matchup.

I'm eager to see what Roy can do. You know he's going to be fighting for a contract, but the Flames probably want to see if his defensive game has progressed enough. Wouldn't be surprised to see him hit the scoresheet with the offense that guy has put up in the WHL though.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Anderson out for precaution or hurt?

I friggen like the cut of that kid's jib.

Probably the same reason they aren't dressing Bennett. It wouldn't be a fair fight.

[AC]

We have to leave after the 2nd period. Hopefully the first 2 are exciting.

[H2SO4(aq)]

was hoping to see Bennett tonight.

[Canada 02]

glad Kylington is back, presumably healthy

[puckedoff]

Like the sounds of a Kylington Morrison unit, hopefully they see some PP time together. Poirier needs to have a good game tonight.

[JurassicTunga12]

Look forward to see Kylington

[tvp2003]

I'm liking the Mangiapane-Arnold-Poirier line. Mangiapane has played well and looks to be getting rewarded for it.

[FBI]

Excited to see Kylington.. Glad Klimchuk is back as well.. Hopefully he does something.

[codynw]

Here is the Canucks line up from yesterday

Who? - Who? - Virtanen
Who? - Who? - Who?
Shinkaruk - Who? - Who?
Who? - Who? - Who?

Who? - Who?
Who? - Subban
Who? - Who?

Who?

This is what I see when I look at Vancouver's lineup.

[Mattman]

I'm liking the Mangiapane-Arnold-Poirier line. Mangiapane has played well and looks to be getting rewarded for it.

Since the rookie camp the way this kid carries himself and the way he plays has been nothing short of impressive (considering where he was picked too).

I'm not saying anything right now but this kid should have gone higher in the draft if he continues to improve.

Bennet
Monahan
Jankowski
Mangiapane

[justafan]

Look forward to see Kylington

Funny, just saw him! Walking past me. Told him not getting past without a picture. He was very nice and gracious. Tho I'm sure you mean see him on the ice!

[jg13]

I saw a couple posters on this board hoping we could pick up Mangiapane in round 3/4.

He's been terrific so far but it shouldn't be too surprising for a guy that finished top 10 in OHL scoring this past year.

The surprising thing is how he fell to round 6 IMO

[Hockey]

Looks like Gaunce, Subban and Sautner are scratches for the Canucks.

[CroFlames]

I saw a couple posters on this board hoping we could pick up Mangiapane in round 3/4.

He's been terrific so far but it shouldn't be too surprising for a guy that finished top 10 in OHL scoring this past year.

The surprising thing is how he fell to round 6 IMO

And wasn't drafted at all in 2014 although eligible.

[dammage79]

Pumped to see Kylington get some top pairing minutes. Should pair very well with Morrison

[CaptainCrunch]

This is what I see when I look at Vancouver's lineup.

Its like when you're a kid and you buy a bunch of packets of hockey cards and open them up and each new card creates a new level of dissapointment as the unknown players smile up at you and you mutter

Crap, crap, garbage, crap, crap.

And then you breath excitedly because you get a card for a player that at least you know (shinkaruk) for example and you mutter

Mega crap

Followed by more crap crap crap

But hey at least you got a bunch or really subpar gum.

[justing]

This is what I see when I look at Vancouver's lineup.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/142946/3981533-6503022817-39686.gif

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Seriously? Cole Cassels and Jared McCann are pretty well known prospects after the last couple of seasons.

Anyway is there a youtube link for this?

[getbak]

Anderson out for precaution or hurt?

I friggen like the cut of that kid's jib.
They brought 11 defencemen to the tournament. None of them are playing in all three games. 7 are getting 2 games each, and the other 4 are getting 1 game.

Andersson, Kulak, Culkin, and Kanzig have already played their 2, so they get today off.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Andersson just signed his ELC and will be interviewed later in the broadcast!

[hockey.modern]

yay!

[getbak]

Big Rig fight. Pretty even tilt.


PROULX!!! Nice.

[Gaskal]

Hell yeah.

[JurassicTunga12]

goal!

[bigbadboss101]

Is that fedorov?

[hockey.modern]

Should Mangiapane show a strong game again, you think he will get signed?

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Bell is bad at hockey. why is he on the PK?

[Gaskal]

Should Mangiapane show a strong game again, you think he will get signed?
I dunno how close the Flames are to the 50 contract limit, but either way he's probably returning for his last year of Junior alongside his buddy Ras.

[SebC]

Is the audio volume on Youtube super low?

[hockey.modern]

I dunno how close the Flames are to the 50 contract limit, but either way he's probably returning for his last year of Junior alongside his buddy Ras.

We are at 47 with 3 PTO's.

[getbak]

Should Mangiapane show a strong game again, you think he will get signed?
I don't think so. He was drafted as a 19 year-old, so if he signed, his contract can only slide for one year. If he doesn't sign, the Flames own his rights unsigned for two years.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

I instantly love Kylington after my first moments watching him.

[combustiblefuel]

Is the audio volume on Youtube super low?

Yup.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Shinkaruk with his 2nd penalty of the period. Still rocking that ultra punchable face.

[JurassicTunga12]

wow. so close.

[hockey.modern]

Wow, that was some nice passing.

[combustiblefuel]

Ine pass too many ...damn..

[getbak]

We are at 47 with 3 PTO's.
Plus two sliding deals (McDonald and Kylington) if they don't play 10 NHL games this season.


Actually...With Andersson's signing just announced, it's now 48 with three sliders.

The sliding deals don't count towards the 50 contract limit until the player plays his 10th NHL game.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Mangeapane with an insane setup at the end of the PP. The puck receiver was in awe and waited too long to fire, but they still got 3 scoring chances out of it.

[Enoch Root]

Klimchuk noticeable so far

[getbak]

Ha ha, Gillies dancing along to the music.

[combustiblefuel]

Can see why Roy was not signed.

[Galakanokis]

Plays just die on Vitanen's stick. Terrible decisions when passing and terrible execution. He has skill but man his IQ just doesn't seem to be improving.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Great save by Gillies... picking up from last game!

[bob-loblaw]

Nice save by Gillies.

[JurassicTunga12]

Gillies is a stud.

[socalwingfan]

Man Gillies is huge and Kylington can fly as advertised. Been impressed with Bill Arnold's offensive game - very underrated IMO in that area.

[getbak]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CO5hxX0UYAA3IVj.jpg

[ComixZone]

I've liked Kylington's game so far. The kid has wheels.

[Rick M.]

I've liked Kylington's game so far. The kid has wheels.

He's a pinpoint passer too.

[GranteedEV]

Bruce has had some good shifts IMO

[combustiblefuel]

Thats a weak call on Carroll. Shoulder check called a cross check. Guess you can't expect much from a BCHL ref.

[btimbit]

Nice puck possesion

[Northendzone]

What is the riot potential in Vancouver if the nux lose?

[t0rrent98]

Riley Bruce with my favorite #. I may have to cheer for the guy.

[getbak]

Ugh. That wasn't a good play by Morrison.

[GranteedEV]

that was soft, Gillies.

[dash_pinched]

Nice puck possesion

Unsustainable :bag:

[BruceCody]

Morrison just awful :grrr:

[JurassicTunga12]

Klimchuk!

[1991 Canadian]

Yikes. That was an Oiler-esque line change by Vancouver.

[getbak]

KLIMCHUK!!!

Big 3-on-1.

[GranteedEV]

Klimmer's release is lightning.

[combustiblefuel]

A Flames 3 on 1 leads to a goal by Klimchuk from Merchant(sp) . Flames lead 2-1.

[Camronius]

Didn't see the first goal. Who scored, what's the synopsis of someone who saw it?

[GranteedEV]

Didn't see the first goal. Who scored, what's the synopsis of someone who saw it?

One of our defenseman (?) got a puck through to the goaltender's pads off a faceoff, Julien Proulx tapped in the easy rebound.

[Caged Great]

Didn't see the first goal. Who scored, what's the synopsis of someone who saw it?

Point shot, rebound, goal

[combustiblefuel]

Rasmus andersson seems like a guy I would like to have a Beer with. Seems down to earth. Also wouldn't mind meeting some Swedish woman he may know;)

[combustiblefuel]

Dear God are these Sedin commercials ####ing terrible.

[FlameZilla]

Both the new Swedes look awesome to me. Rasmus especially seems mature on & off the ice. Wouldn't be surprised if they made some noise at main camp.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

We're basically set on D for the next 5-7 years, this is incredible.

[GranteedEV]

Kylington's neutral zone play is so damn good.

[FBI]

That goal wasn't soft it was awesome hand eye coordination on the rebound.

[Ashasx]

Jeez I don't like watching kids fight.

[Finger Cookin]

Nice tilt.

[Split98]

I don't know who Proulx is... but he can throw 'em!

[getbak]

Proulx 2/3 of the way to a Gordie Howe Hat Trick. Go for the assist now, kid.

[GranteedEV]

Mangiapane is a scoring chance machine.

[combustiblefuel]

Shinkurak with a hit from behind on eat bread. Didn't hit the boards at least.

[Ashasx]

oi Poirier

[JurassicTunga12]

wow. 2 on 0 and no goal.

[JurassicTunga12]

Flames PP has been real bad.

[getbak]

What the hell was Roy doing there? He was hustling back to break it up, but then gave up on it.

[GranteedEV]

Flames PP has been real bad.

That is life without Johnny.

[JurassicTunga12]

holy crap. so sloppy.

[N-E-B]

This is a really terrible power play

[Ashasx]

well the team has been just awful this period.

[getbak]

Sloppy. Sloppy.

[Finger Cookin]

That was ugly.

[JurassicTunga12]

Repeat of last game. Just beyond sloppy as the game goes on.

[combustiblefuel]

What the hell was Roy doing there? He was hustling back to break it up, but then gave up on it.

He has been terrible game.

[Ashasx]

Would really like to see something from Poirier.

[saillias]

Sieloff, Sieloff... Guy could use another year of junior :bag:

[Street Pharmacist]

Sieloff looked particularly bad there

[MisterJoji]

Sieloff, Sieloff... Guy could use another year of junior :bag:


He looked really good sealing his guy off along the boards and then serves up that garbage. C'mon guy.

[BruceCody]

Flames power play makes me sad

[puckedoff]

Would really like to see something from Poirier.

A turnover leading to a 2 on 0 isn't something?

[300 MPH Blues]

"Johnny on the spot."

[Ashasx]

A turnover leading to a 2 on 0 isn't something?

Something positive.

[getbak]

The Flames have had poor third periods all tournament. They need a Bob Hartley training camp to whip them into shape.

[GranteedEV]

Emile Byron

Kylington is incredible though.

[JurassicTunga12]

ugh. Poirier just can't bury it.

[Miniac]

Flames PP. 7th of the night.

[Ashasx]

please let Kylington quarterback the PP.

[getbak]

Morrison doesn't look like a guy who's going to be taking an NHL roster spot out of camp.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Morrison doesn't look like a guy who's going to be taking an NHL roster spot out of camp.

Agreed. Seen more bad than good from him today.

[FBI]

I like Kylington.

[FBI]

Also Arnold has looked good this whole tournament.

[Finger Cookin]

3-on-3 OT looming

[JurassicTunga12]

Yikes, Kenney.

[Street Pharmacist]

Poirier looking good

[getbak]

3-on-3 OT!

[GranteedEV]

Poirier looking good

Good at doing everything except scoring.

[getbak]

Billy, Mangy, and Chilly start the 3-on-3.

[JurassicTunga12]

shoot that, poirier.

[getbak]

Holy crap. This is ridiculous.

[Ashasx]

Roy is just awful

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Too many passes. Poirier has to pull the trigger there.

[JurassicTunga12]

Goodbye, Roy. Terrible game.

[hockey.modern]

And the breakaways kill us this tournament

[getbak]

Well, if that's any indication of what 3-on-3 will be like, we won't be seeing very many shootouts this season.

[saXon]

Well, if that's any indication of what 3-on-3 will be like, we won't be seeing very many shootouts this season.
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-11150-Grumpy-Cat-GOOD-and-NO-memes-pGrc.jpeg

[GranteedEV]

I can't wait to see Brodie, Gaudreau, Giordano, Backlund, Monahan, Russell, Hamilton, Bennett, Byron at 3 on 3.

[badradio]

3 on 3 is way better than shootouts that's forsure

[Ashasx]

I thought if anyone would show fight in this tournament, it'd be Roy.

You can't let a player slide through you like that if you're fighting for a contract. Take a penalty even.

[N-E-B]

Roy... Yikes. Not impressed.

[hockey.modern]

Guys that impressed this game:

Mangipane
Gillies
Arnold
Kylington
Klimchuk

Very disappointed in Morrison, had high hopes for him today.

[BruceCody]

lol

[PaperBagger'14]

There is a ton of coaching and systems that need to be developed with this 3 on 3 overtime. I can't imagine we will see too many of the third men in going deeper than the top of the circle. That seemed very risky and it ended up with a breakaway for vancouver.

[Enoch Root]

Complete lack of effort from Roy there, both in Vancouver's end at the beginning of the play, letting Virtanen get away. Then even worse at the end, just giving up and letting Virtanen go.

Capping off a pretty unimpressive game for him.

[getbak]

Anyone who questioned Treliving not giving a contract to Roy shouldn't be questioning it any longer.

[Ashasx]

My best Flames of the tournament by position

Forward: Mangiapane (not close)
Defence: Andersson
Goal: Gillies

[Rejean31]

Not a great game from Roy. Really liked Mangiapane again. Klimchuk looked good as did Gillies and Schneider.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Kylington best Dman by far. Looked pretty sound defensively too besides the offensive upside. Lightning fast and smooth. Crisp passes too. I think we have three A prospects on D with Andersson and Hickey.

Rest of dmen turning over the puck way too much. Seiloff running out of time.

I liked Morrisson RH point shot but he is not ready for NHL yet. There is potential there though.

Offensively, Poirier is starting to worry me. No finish around net. Did he get any points in this tournament? I do not see him cracking the Flames lineup yet.

Arnold solid (NHL time likely this year).

Mangiapane always creating something out there (fantastic 6th rounder).

Klimchuk not that noticable but has a quick shot. AHL for sure.

[BruceCody]

anti: Morrison, Sieloff, Roy

[Fire]

Kylington best Dman by far. Looked pretty sound defensively too besides the offensive upside. Lightning fast and smooth. Crisp passes too. I think we have three A prospects on D with Andersson and Hickey.

Rest of dmen turning over the puck way too much. Seiloff running out of time.

I liked Morrisson RH point shot but he is not ready for NHL yet. There is potential there though.

Offensively, Poirier is starting to worry me. No finish around net. Did he get any points in this tournament? I do not see him cracking the Flames lineup yet.

Arnold solid (NHL time likely this year).

Mangiapane always creating something out there (fantastic 6th rounder).

Klimchuk not that noticable but has a quick shot. AHL for sure.

Don't take a rookie tournament too seriously. These are the first games these guys are playing without one practice on the ice as a team. Poirier had a very solid rookie season in the AHL last year. No points in this tournament doesn't mean he suddenly has no finish.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I have to agree with the assessment of Roy. Guy just doesn't seem to have anything I'd want in a defenseman. He's big, but skates worse than Kanzig. He might have a good shot, but he'll never get it off when you need him to. He makes horrible decisions in his own zone and doesn't seem to ever know where his man is. Not to mention absolutely no hustle whatsoever. The guy just doesn't seem to have his heart in playing hockey. Offering the tryout was the right move to see what he could do in terms of summer training, but I see absolutely no point in even giving him an AHL deal if that's what he has to offer.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Hope you are right. Just seems he needs to slow the game down to finish. He makes things happen but rushes the chance.

[Galakanokis]

I liked what I saw from Bruce. What's the story on him, back to junior? He definitely needs work but I liked what I saw.

After watching Carroll I really want him to make the Flames in 2 or 3 seasons, lots to like there. Is he AHL bound?

Fun tournament but nothing to get worked up about. Since guys upped their stock but I didn't see too many drop.

[getbak]

I liked what I saw from Bruce. What's the story on him, back to junior? He definitely needs work but I liked what I saw.

After watching Carroll I really want him to make the Flames in 2 or 3 seasons, lots to like there. Is he AHL bound?

Fun tournament but nothing to get worked up about. Since guys upped their stock but I didn't see too many drop.

Bruce will definitely be going back to junior. I suspect he'll be in the first round of cuts. He just turned 18 in July, so he's still very young. He needs to add some bulk to that beanpole body of his.

Carroll will be going pro, either ECHL or AHL. He should start in Stockton.

[Hockey]

Most shocking thing for me after watching this game was the pronounciation of Kylington.

[tvp2003]

Happy to see Klimchuk score (and not just an EN goal). He probably won't be a real flashy prospect in terms of high end skill but if he can combine above average skating with good hockey sense and a great shot he could be a keeper.

It's fun watching a glimpse of what the future may hold... even better considering two of our better prospects aren't even here (Jankowski and Hickey)...

[getbak]

Most shocking thing for me after watching this game was the pronounciation of Kylington.

http://www.davidjayne.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/The-Big-Chill.jpg

[Phanuthier]

Seems like everybody seems to agree that Mangiapane was fantastic. I know its only rookie camp, but if he carries this through to pre-season and into pro? Mangiapane might be that other top line LWer to fill in. I'm dreaming of something like :

Mangiapane - Bennett - Poirer
Gaudreau - Monahan - ?Klimchuk?
Ferland / Bouma - Jankowski - ?Frolik?

Dang that could be a pretty sweet top 9. Mangiapane was a little buzz saw all over the creating waives. Just like Bennett. And Poirer. That could be a line that plays against McDavid every night for the next 10 years. /dreaming

[dammage79]

Thanks to Canucks TV for having the game on replay on Youtube. Now I get to watch it.

[Fire]

Seems like everybody seems to agree that Mangiapane was fantastic. I know its only rookie camp, but if he carries this through to pre-season and into pro? Mangiapane might be that other top line LWer to fill in. I'm dreaming of something like :

Mangiapane - Bennett - Poirer
Gaudreau - Monahan - ?Klimchuk?
Ferland / Bouma - Jankowski - ?Frolik?

Dang that could be a pretty sweet top 9. Mangiapane was a little buzz saw all over the creating waives. Just like Bennett. And Poirer. That could be a line that plays against McDavid every night for the next 10 years. /dreaming

Mangiapane over Gaudreau on the top line. That is dreaming. :) Reasonable expectations for Mangiapane would be for him to become a Byron type player. I think he'll have a hard time producing points at the NHL level.

[GranteedEV]

Mangiapane over Gaudreau on the top line. That is dreaming.

It's as crazy as Brandon Saad over Patrick Kane on the top line.

[Phanuthier]

Mangiapane over Gaudreau on the top line. That is dreaming. :) Reasonable expectations for Mangiapane would be for him to become a Byron type player. I think he'll have a hard time producing points at the NHL level.
My idea runs from a somewhat older idea that you keep 2 pairs together and rotate the 3rd on a line to "mix things up" if a player is in a slump. The 2 obvious tandoms I see are Bennett-Poirer and Gaudreau-Monahan.

It would be pretty slick if Bennett-Poirer took on the tough matchups and other teams top D, leaving Gaudreau-Monahan to face softer minutes.

[AcGold]

Gaudreau and Monahan on the second line would be the best second line in the NHL.