Sept. 7-9: Blue Jays vs. Red Sox Series Thread

[Antithesis]

Toronto Blue Jays (78-58, conquering Kings of the universe) vs. Boston Red Sox Sux (64-72, the Canucks of MLB)

Probable Starters:

Monday @11:30 Mountain Time: TOR: Mark Buehrle, 14-6, 3.53 ERA; BOS: Rick Porcello, 6-12, 5.21 ERA
Tuesday @5:00 Mountain Time: TOR: R.A. Dickey, 10-10, 4.09 ERA; BOS: Henry Owens, 2-2, 5.87 ERA
Wednesday @5:00 Mountain Time: TOR: Drew Hutchison, 13-3, 5.07 ERA; BOS: Joe Kelly, 9-6, 4.84 ERA

I hate the Red Sox so much. Their fans are the worst. Their players are the worst. I know calling them the Canucks of MLB isn't quite right but, man. The Red Sox are the worst. I hope that the Jays just beat the tar out of them this weekend because they're the worst but also as punishment for rolling over completely to the Yankees recently.

Looking forward to watching the Jays RH power hitters hit over the Green Monster ... with the way they've been hitting there might be some gaudy numbers and that's cool with me.

If you're into this sort of thing, FanGraphs continues to list the Jays' odds of winning the AL East at about 70%. They have the odds of them being in the playoffs at 99.9% which is terrific and exciting and ... I don't really want them to win a Wild Card spot. Amazing how picky about that I have become after two decades, but there it is.

Stats Time!

Over his career, current Red Sox hitters have the following stats vs. Mark Buehrle: 196 AB, 58 H, 5 HR, 26 K, 0.296 AVG, 0.330 OBP, 0.490 SLG, 0.820 OPS
Over his career, current Red Sox hitters have the following stats vs. R.A. Dickey: 223 AB, 60 H, 7 HR, 40 K, 0.269 AVG, 0.309 OBP, 0.444 SLG, 0.753 OPS
Over his career, current Red Sox hitters have the following stats vs. Drew Hutchison: 95 AB, 33 H, 3 HR, 14 K, 0.347 AVG, 0.402 OBP, 0.516 SLG, 0.918 OPS

Over their careers, current Blue Jays hitters have the following stats vs. Rick Porcello: 173 AB, 53 H, 6 HR, 25 K, 0.306 AVG, 0.358 OBP, 0.491 SLG, 0.850 OPS
Over their careers, current Blue Jays hitters have the following stats vs. Henry Owens: NO AVAILABLE STATISTICS
Over their careers, current Blue Jays hitters have the following stats vs. Joe Kelly: 83 AB, 22 H, 4 HR, 18 K, 0.265 AVG, 0.386 OBP, 0.470 SLG, 0.856 OPS

OK!

BLUE JAYS!

LETS!

PLAY!

BALL!

[Violator]

Go sox

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Porcello has been on fire since coming back from the DL. Watch out for him today, he could single-handedly stifle the Jays offense. I'd like to call a guaranteed win tomorrow for Dickey, but he still gives up a fair amount of homers and Fenway is also a ballpark with some areas that the ball can get out easily. Then you have Hutch's awful numbers against the Red Sox as well as his awful road numbers against Joe Kelly's adequate numbers. I wouldn't be shocked to see the Jays drop 2 out of 3 against a team that has been 7-3 in its last 10 games (although 3 of those were against the Phillies).

After hearing my Sox fan cousin tell me today that Pedroia is the best 2nd baseman of all time, I really hope the Jays tear the Red Sox a new one starting today. I agree with the OP: Worst fans anywhere, even worse than Yankees fans.

[SportsJunky]

Go sox

A Red Sox fan and a Canucks fan? Welcome! Its been a tough year for you.;)

[Enoch Root]

If you're into this sort of thing, FanGraphs continues to list the Jays' odds of winning the AL East at about 70%. They have the odds of them being in the playoffs at 99.9% which is terrific and exciting and ... I don't really want them to win a Wild Card spot. Amazing how picky about that I have become after two decades, but there it is.


Yeah, playoffs is no longer an issue. The only acceptable outcome at this point is winning the division.

For anyone interested, here is what needs to happen for the Jays to miss the playoffs entirely (no 1-game tiebreaker), assuming they go 13-13 the rest of the way:

NY finishes 16-11 or better, AND

Texas finishes at least 21-6 AND Houston finishes at least 17-8, AND

Minnesota finishes at least 22-4 OR LAA finishes at least 23-3

If one of those teams did one game poorer, it would mean a tiebreaker for the Jays.

If the Jays did worse than 13-13, adjust these numbers down equivalently.

As for the division, if the jays finish 15-11, NY would have to go 19-8 to win.

If the Jays take 4 out of 7 against NY and go 10-9 against the rest of the field, NY would have to go 14-6 against others to win.

[Blaster86]

Go sox

You seem lost.

[MyFlamesFirst]

Predicting a big game from tulo. Something like 3 for 5 with 3 rbis.

[Yoho]

Unreal!

[Skaloper]

Looks like the Into was correct! So much for that Green Monster.

Josh Donaldson HR!

[GirlySports]

Woooo!

[Cali Panthers Fan]

JD! MVP! Even Jerry Remy from the Red Sox broadcast called him the MVP this year.

Unreal. Best trade ever.

[Antithesis]

Yet another first inning HR for the MVP. He's going to have fun with the Green Monster.

[Antithesis]

Uh oh. Goins limping on the way to first.

[Skaloper]

Uh oh. Goins limping on the way to first.

Didn't look good.

[Lil Pedro]

I thought that check swing call was garbage by the ump

[Antithesis]

I thought that check swing call was garbage by the ump

I'd say it was borderline for sure; the bigger problem for me was the ump beaking at Martin as he was walking off the field. That's not OK.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I know Buehrle always gives up a fair amount of hits in a game, but he looks like he's struggling a little. I hope the bullpen is ready today.

Edit: oh dear god, Loup is up.

[KelVarnsen]

Buherle getting hit a lot.

[Antithesis]

Hopefully he can scratch and claw to keep things close - still only at 40 pitches.

Then Ortiz hits one off the monster - thought for sure they had him at second base there.

Jays have hit Porcello in the past so it's far from over at this point.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Not many easy outs for Buehrle. Looks like he's struggling with control. Still, if anyone can gut out a few more innings it's Buehrle.

[Dan02]

looks like it hits the pole to me.

[InBurkeWeTrust]

Foul!

[Antithesis]

Foul ball. Good. Stupid pole.

[Antithesis]

And then Buehrle gets a weak grounder that Castillo runs out. Not his game by the looks of it.

[Antithesis]

Time to lift Buehrle. He just doesn't have it today.

[KelVarnsen]

I am not enjoying the start of this game.

[Antithesis]

Everything is going wrong at the moment. Yuck.

[InBurkeWeTrust]

horrible game so far

[transplant99]

Pretty obvious that Buehrle is fighting a dead arm now. This effort is coming off a full week of rest...not a good sign at all.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Loup is really useless this year. Hard to watch after a couple of excellent years in middle relief.

[Antithesis]

Whew ... damage minimized there. Hopefully the offense can get things together.

[Antithesis]

Er ... uh. Perhaps I should retract my previous statement about that stupid pole?

[KelVarnsen]

Smoak!

[Derek Sutton]

Loup is really useless this year. Hard to watch after a couple of excellent years in middle relief.

I'm not a fan of Loup, but he came in and got a dp ball, should've been out of the inning. The HBP that followed that up is the Loup of 2015.

[Caged Great]

Can't win them all, especially when your starter has a bad game like MB. I think he might be the one to get shut down and have Stroman take his spot.

Not a big deal.

There are 26 games including today. Jays will have to win 14-15 of them to win the division. It should be possible. Just have to stick with it.

Hopefully the O's can mount a comeback and beat the Yanks making today irrelevant.

[KelVarnsen]

Shi Davidi ‏@ShiDavidi 18s18 seconds ago
#BlueJays manager John Gibbons on MLB Network says Marcus Stroman starts Saturday vs #Yankees

[KelVarnsen]

SportsCentre ‏@SportsCentre 1m1 minute ago
Further to news of Stroman starting Sat., #TSN has learned Buehrle being sent back to Tor to receive cortisone shot.

[KelVarnsen]

Shi Davidi ‏@ShiDavidi 3m3 minutes ago
John Gibbons says Mark Buehrle returned to Toronto today for a cortisone shot in his left shoulder. On track to pitch Tuesday in Atlanta

[SportsJunky]

Sounds about right.

[Caged Great]

Additionally, the Jays won't have to face Eovaldi as he's out for two weeks, and might miss him entirely when the Yanks visit T.O.

That's good because Eovaldi IMO is their best pitcher at the moment.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

So, I guess the bottom of the order is going to be a black hole of offense. Scuffling Pillar, Pennington, and Thole. Ugh.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

And Dickey gives up his obligatory homer per start. I know it's part of the knuckleball that it will occasionally get rocked, but I just get annoyed by it.

[The Big Chill]

And Dickey gives up his obligatory homer per start. I know it's part of the knuckleball that it will occasionally get rocked, but I just get annoyed by it.

Except that was a fastball down the middle.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

That was a BS call on Colabello for strike 3.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Pennington annoys me. Just feels like an easy out every time he gets up there, lucky that dp ball was broken up by Pillar. Hope he proves me wrong as this game goes on.

[GirlySports]

They should just let Dickey hit.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Well at least Pillar got a hit, just the 2nd against a rookie lefty. I figured the Jays righty heavy lineup would smash this guy tonight. They need to pick it up a little.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I have no problem with Dickey being kept around next season but I'm done with Thole. Thole and Pennington today, yes I am annoyed.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Pennington annoys me. Just feels like an easy out every time he gets up there, lucky that dp ball was broken up by Pillar. Hope he proves me wrong as this game goes on.

Yeah, I would just let Ryan Goins take his chances against a lefty than let Pennington start any game ever.

Edit: as I say that Pennington makes a nice play up the middle.

[KelVarnsen]

I rather have Dickey bat then Thole.

[The Big Chill]

Third time through here, time for a big inning.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Jesus, almost the 3rd hit batter for this guy. Warning time ump? This is getting old.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Crap, that was an excellent double play by the BoSox.

[KelVarnsen]

Double play, everyone drink!

[The Big Chill]

So many blown chances tonight.

[The Big Chill]

Wow, great play by Revere!

[Cali Panthers Fan]

1st and 3rd on a hit and a walk...not in the order you'd think. Don't see that too often.

[The Big Chill]

Owens gets the hook. Maybe will see Goins come in for Pennington now.

Huge at bat coming up for Pillar.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

*sigh*

[MRCboicgy]

Gidp

[KelVarnsen]

Double play...

[The Big Chill]

Yet another double play.

[The Big Chill]

As great as we are at hitting, we could be a lot better at situational hitting. Leadoff man aboard in every inning, and only pushed one run across.

[Antithesis]

You don't deserve to win when you are hitting this poorly. What a disgusting display so far.

[Antithesis]

Well this has disaster written all over it ...

[V]

This is pretty rough to watch. And now Dickey's getting into trouble...

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Dickey's done a really nice job of pitching out of jams tonight. He must be learning a little from Buehrle.

[Antithesis]

Glad to have been proven wrong there. What a sloppy game to this point - hopefully they pick it up soon.

[Caged Great]

With Pennington and Thole being up this inning, hopefully Dickey can keep the sox at bay for another inning....

[Cali Panthers Fan]

With Pennington and Thole being up this inning, hopefully Dickey can keep the sox at bay for another inning....

Looks like both Dickey and Thole are done. Martin's in the game now.

[The Big Chill]

Why would we pinch hit for Revere? He hits lefties just fine and we still need his defense in this game.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Double switch? Smoak in for Revere. Colabello to left field?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Smoak hit that nicely. Tough break. Ball just didn't get down fast enough.

[KelVarnsen]

This game is making me sad.

[The Big Chill]

I really don't agree with pinch hitting Smoak for Revere. Smoak hit it nicely, but even if that lands in Martin doesn't score, and now we sacrifice defense for the rest the way.

[Caged Great]

Pompey will be in LF instead

[The Big Chill]

First two on in the 8th. Come on, Tulo.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Not sure Tulo could have swung at a worse pitch.

[The Big Chill]

A simply awful display of hitting.

[Antithesis]

What a terrible display. First and second, no one out ... and now this. Sorry if this sounds so negative, but the situational hitting has just been terrible.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

goddamit

[KelVarnsen]

This game is making Baby Jesus cry.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Oh brother. Another 2 runners left on base, now 12 for the night. Frustrating.

[Antithesis]

What a waste of terrific pitching.

[whosurnabby]

O's and Yanks tied at 1 a piece, bottom of the 8th 2 outs.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

WTF is Pennington still doing in there???!!! Come on Gibbons!

[Street Pharmacist]

I think it's time to resurrect #FireGibbons

[Sylvanfan]

Tulowitzky is a Coors Field hero! Somewhere Dante Bichette and Vinny Castillo are saying et tu Tulo?

[whosurnabby]

Chris Davis crushes one to give O's a 2-1 lead over the Evil Empire!

[whosurnabby]

I think it's time to resurrect #FireGibbons
#162games #baseball

Seriously.

[Street Pharmacist]

#162games #baseball

Seriously.
You don't take this game seriously enough

[V]

Man, Martin's got an arm.

[The Big Chill]

Great throw by Martin! Love having him back there.

I thought that looked like Collabello came off the bag there..

[GirlySports]

That looked painful

[The Big Chill]

Yankees lose!

[wingmaker]

Another great play by Pennington. Make that three on the night. Maybe he isn't so terrible, after all.

[V]

Yankees lose, right on.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Another great play by Pennington. Make that three on the night. Maybe he isn't so terrible, after all.

Not defensively, but he's terrible with the bat.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Is that gone? No, but could you get any closer?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Isn't that gone??

[Antithesis]

Of course Donaldson does that ... MVP!

[GirlySports]

Dont think its a homer. Off the edge

[Antithesis]

Oh man ... if Donaldson is called out at third on a ball that should have been out, I just don't know ...

[V]

That's crazy, right off the corner of the wall.

[Finger Cookin]

Good lord MLB, how do you mess that up and then do two separate reviews. Pathetic.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Looks way safe at 3rd.

[The Big Chill]

That's safe.

[GirlySports]

Umps correct all away around.

[Antithesis]

Gotta cash in. Come on, guys.

[The Big Chill]

Time for some situational hitting.

[CofR]

Full disclosure, I'm not a Jays fan... I'm a diehard Sox fan. cant imagine how frustrating how that call is. At least safe at 3rd is the right call.

[Antithesis]

Of course they failed to cash in there. Now the double play is in order.

[Antithesis]

Thank. Goodness.

[V]

Guaranteed double play the way this game is going.

-Edit- Haha, maybe not.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Attaboy Tulo!

[MyFlamesFirst]

Tulo finally comes through.

[GirlySports]

When it came off the bat i thought it was another gidp

[chummer]

Bust it wide open.

[Antithesis]

That insurance run feels huge.

[MyFlamesFirst]

Beauty!

[Street Pharmacist]

This game is making Baby Jesus cry.
Tears of holy joy

[GirlySports]

a BALK!

Now just a bit outside!

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Wow...Bosox totally falling apart here.

[The Big Chill]

Pile it on!

[GirlySports]

Wooo!

[Street Pharmacist]

Wow. If I'm a Boston fan, this is embarrassing

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Wow. If I'm a Boston fan, this is embarrassing

It's kind of what they've been doing all year. Sloppy play that costs them games.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Thank goodness the Sox fell apart here, what a frustrating game until now.

Now just don't blow it.

[CofR]

Wow. If I'm a Boston fan, this is embarrassing

It sure is

[V]

That should be enough to get the win. Crazy inning after the first 9 innings.

[Antithesis]

Well, this is probably the score that the game should have ended at - the Jays just took the absolute most frustrating path to get there. Glad to have the 1.5 game cushion again.

[The Big Chill]

Jays win! Yankees lose! Life is good!

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Gotta give Dickey some props, he did his job tonight.

[KelVarnsen]

Thank you Jesus!

That was a fun(ny) 10th inning.

[Hockey]

Gotta give Dickey some props, he did his job tonight.

As he has the last several games now.

[MRCboicgy]

Hopefully Boston feels demoralized and tomorrow is just a constant stream of balls over the Monster off Jays' bats

[savemedrzaius]

That was an awesome end to the game and Fenway is a joke of a ballpark.

[KelVarnsen]

Arden Zwelling ‏@ArdenZwelling
Josh Donaldson, who thought he hit two home runs tonight: "Geez, I dunno. Apparently I had none." #BlueJays

[dino7c]

That was an awesome end to the game and Fenway is a joke of a ballpark.

no kidding, I get the history and all but that's just stupid...what if the Flames put square corners at one end of the rink

[Dan02]

Both teams play on the same field, it's not at all like putting square corners in one end of the rink. I think one of the cool things about baseball is the somewhat unique stadiums. Adds a bit of home team advantage if you try to build a team to better suit the certain aspects of your park.

[chummer]

That was an awesome end to the game and Fenway is a joke of a ballpark.

Have you been there?

Fenway is awesome.

[savemedrzaius]

Both teams play on the same field, it's not at all like putting square corners in one end of the rink. I think one of the cool things about baseball is the somewhat unique stadiums. Adds a bit of home team advantage if you try to build a team to better suit the certain aspects of your park.

Nope, Fenway is still stupid.

[chummer]

Gotta give Dickey some props, he did his job tonight.

Cerebral guy too, love his interviews.

[savemedrzaius]

Have you been there?

Fenway is awesome.

I've never been, but would like to go. I'm sure it is a great looking park with great atmosphere and history, but I just don't get the design.

[savemedrzaius]

Actually I just read this article and it changed my mind a little. I guess it does add flavour to the game with every park being a little different.

And so part of the glory of Boston's Fenway Park is the Green Monster, that towering wall in left field. Nobody reaches over the top of the Monster to snatch away a home run. Yet over in right center field in the same ballpark, the bullpen wall is short enough to take an outfielder's legs out from under him as he's speeding for a catch.


Still, I wanted to know more. Why is it, for instance, that it's 314 feet down the right-field line in Yankee Stadium, but 326 feet in Seattle?


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4675798

[Cuz]

Actually I just read this article and it changed my mind a little. I guess it does add flavour to the game with every park being a little different.

And so part of the glory of Boston's Fenway Park is the Green Monster, that towering wall in left field. Nobody reaches over the top of the Monster to snatch away a home run. Yet over in right center field in the same ballpark, the bullpen wall is short enough to take an outfielder's legs out from under him as he's speeding for a catch.


Still, I wanted to know more. Why is it, for instance, that it's 314 feet down the right-field line in Yankee Stadium, but 326 feet in Seattle?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4675798

Durr, the Yankees made the short porch out in right for the Babe ;)

[whosurnabby]

Jays gotta start making some noise here. Next series is going to be HUGE. Gotta' defeat these beatable teams.

[whosurnabby]

Jays gotta start making some noise here. Next series is going to be HUGE. Gotta' defeat these beatable teams.

[Caged Great]

Goins with the glove.

[whosurnabby]

The Road Hutchison finally showed up. This is going to be an awful night.

Hutch has been nibbling and overthrowing all night...Papi finally made him pay with a bomb to CF. 4-0 Red Sox.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Hutch getting knocked around like crazy in the 3rd, capped off with a 3 run shot by Ortiz.

Sigh.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

4 runs all with 2 out. Can't let that happen.

[Jason14h]

Every pitch misses Martin's glove by 5 inches. So annoying.

[GirlySports]

That moustache looks stupid

[Sylvanfan]

Tulowitzky can't hit...now prove me wrong.

[GirlySports]

At least Martin cant gidp here :)

[Karl]

C'mon Martin...jeez!

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Martin leaves 3 on base. Darn.

[Karl]

And Kelly gets off the hook. :bag: SMFH

[MRCboicgy]

Just can't do that.

[Yoho]

Nice O's tie it up

[Karl]

At least the Orioles & Yankees are tied at 3 now.

[Karl]

Hutch out, Loup in. Better? Most likely, but not much...

[Karl]

now Hendriks is coming in.

[Karl]

God that was such an ass crap at bat from Martin with the bases loaded.

[Caged Great]

The unclutchness of the roster the past few days is worrying. Yesterday until the 10th they were 0-12 with RISP. That's unacceptable. If not for great pitching by the Jays yesterday, we're looking at a sweep.

The Jays need to start cashing those guys.

[MRCboicgy]

Argh. caught looking again

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Cripes. You'd think Jose would at least try to protect there. Another poor at bat with men on.

[Karl]

Crap on a cracker.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

This game is pissing me off.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

No John, Delabar is doing fine out there. Don't get another pitcher or anything.

Really hating Gibbons right now.

[cavalera403]

I am an Orioles fan right now. Watching this is just making me angry

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Hey, remember when Steve Delabar was an all-star? :bag:

[KelVarnsen]

http://i29.tinypic.com/s2a4g2.jpg

[Cali Panthers Fan]

"Well...I'll just saunter out after letting Steve piss away this game for us and leave the bases loaded for somebody else to figure out. Man my job is easy. All I have to do is make a lineup card and just sit around looking relaxed the rest of the night!"

~John Gibbons.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

This is painful. And it's only the 5th.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Can we invoke the mercy rule and save the bullpen??

Either that or just let Francis go the rest of the way and let him get knocked around.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Thank god that inning is over. Brutal.

[browna]

Meh, not the worst thing in the world for a bunch of the warts to surface this game/series.

-Shine is off Droopy Drew.
-The original bullpen, outside of Osuna (and before Hawkins and Lowe) are still below average when push comes to shove.

-Positive from the series, Dickey is looking full value for his contract this year.

First series loss in a long time it looks like, and not a bad thing to get embarrassed in the last game to smarten the team up and bring them down a notch...and if the O's hang on, they'll still have the same lead over the Yanks they had going into the series.

[browna]

Can we invoke the mercy rule and save the bullpen??

Either that or just let Francis go the rest of the way and let him get knocked around.

Let Kawasaki pitch.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Feels like the Jays hit into a dp every inning.

[Yoho]

O's get another one 5-3 two on, one out in the top of the 9th

[TheAlpineOracle]

Hutchinson has no business being in th big leagues anymore. He'll be out of tbe league in two years. I really hope this is the last we see of him for this year.

Also, I feared the expanded roster may hurt the incredible chemistry the team had. Hope this isn't the case.

[Caged Great]

At least the Yanks lost as well. Makes today irrelevant

[Caged Great]

Wished that the Jays were able to get the win today, but at least the Jays 4 best starters will go against the Yanks.

[whosurnabby]

Wished that the Jays were able to get the win today, but at least the Jays 4 best starters will go against the Yanks.
Here's hoping they'll bring those bats that they used to beast the Yanks at Yankee Stadium last month as well.;)

[V]

Yikes, rough series!


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[KootenayFlamesFan]

So, what do you do with Hutch? He's just garbage on the road. I guess it depends on what happens with Buerhle, but Hutch on the road is pretty much an automatic loss at this point.

[TheAlpineOracle]

So, what do you do with Hutch? He's just garbage on the road. I guess it depends on what happens with Buerhle, but Hutch on the road is pretty much an automatic loss at this point.

I think he is another Romero. An absolute flake who will wash out. It's unfortunate that his value is likely so low that the Jays cannot turn him into another asset.

[TheAlpineOracle]

With the power the Jays, they aren't really out of any game. It really unfortunate that Gibbons is at the helm because his boneheaded decisions turn managable deficits (4-1) into mountains to climb. Hutchinson never should have seen a batter in the 4th.

I give Gibbons zero credit for the Jays record. Pretty sure anyone could be doing that with the roster they have. In fact, they have underachieved big time in his second tenure.

[TheAlpineOracle]

These highlights SN kept showing to pass the time of Votto losing his mind really have me wondering what that ump did. Votto is as mild-mannered as they come.

[Roof-Daddy]

So that's the first series loss since.....when?

They split the two with the Phillies a while back, but when was the last time they dropped a series? Before the Tulo trade correct?

Pretty good run.

[Caged Great]

They lost 2 out of three against the Yanks after they swept them in Yankee Stadium. After that you have to go back to that trip to Seattle for the last one.

[dino7c]

These highlights SN kept showing to pass the time of Votto losing his mind really have me wondering what that ump did. Votto is as mild-mannered as they come.

you must have missed him head butting a ump and being suspended earlier in the season lol