comrade
06-06-2013, 01:27 PM
Here's the situation:
So my parents have been looking around the west side for a place to buy, when they come across a nice place in Springbank Hill. Apparently this house has been on the market for a month or so (beginning of May I think) and has already had it's list price cut three times (the last of which was 16 grand). Based on what my parents have been seeing, it's current list price is quite reasonable.
My parents put an offer (conditioned on inspection) on the house. Their thoughts are that it looks like the seller is motivated and wants the place gone quickly. Anyway, they put in an offer and within an hour the offer is outright rejected. My understanding is that if there were other offers they would have gotten a chance to put in one more blind offer.
My question is what happened? Why would a house with a rapidly falling list price not even bother to counter my parents offer? I'm sure their offer was close to the list price, they wanted the house and they're not adept at bargaining.
My dad, being a rather cynical fellow, thinks that the realtor is screwing the owner. His reasoning is that since the owner is looking to sell fast (conjecture, I know) the realtor is sandbagging the owner, getting the price down to a place where the realtor can buy it and then flip it for a nice profit at some point.
A couple of caveats here: First is that I don't have any first hand knowledge, only what my parents say. Second is that I do realize that my Dad's idea could be completely false and is based primarily on intuition of what the seller's position is, but since I don't know much about realty I wondering what other scenarios could it be?
Finally, if my dad's hunch is actually correct, I have a couple questions:
1) The realtors actions are clearly unethical, but are they illegal? Could you sue if you found that your realtor was doing something like this?
2) How do you protect yourself from realtors taking advantage of you? Once your realtor is fielding all the calls regarding offers, how can you ensure that the realtor can't pull something on you?
3) Rookie question, I'm sure, but are offers (and other things like counters etc.) documented in any way? I always assumed it was just a telephone conversation.
So my parents have been looking around the west side for a place to buy, when they come across a nice place in Springbank Hill. Apparently this house has been on the market for a month or so (beginning of May I think) and has already had it's list price cut three times (the last of which was 16 grand). Based on what my parents have been seeing, it's current list price is quite reasonable.
My parents put an offer (conditioned on inspection) on the house. Their thoughts are that it looks like the seller is motivated and wants the place gone quickly. Anyway, they put in an offer and within an hour the offer is outright rejected. My understanding is that if there were other offers they would have gotten a chance to put in one more blind offer.
My question is what happened? Why would a house with a rapidly falling list price not even bother to counter my parents offer? I'm sure their offer was close to the list price, they wanted the house and they're not adept at bargaining.
My dad, being a rather cynical fellow, thinks that the realtor is screwing the owner. His reasoning is that since the owner is looking to sell fast (conjecture, I know) the realtor is sandbagging the owner, getting the price down to a place where the realtor can buy it and then flip it for a nice profit at some point.
A couple of caveats here: First is that I don't have any first hand knowledge, only what my parents say. Second is that I do realize that my Dad's idea could be completely false and is based primarily on intuition of what the seller's position is, but since I don't know much about realty I wondering what other scenarios could it be?
Finally, if my dad's hunch is actually correct, I have a couple questions:
1) The realtors actions are clearly unethical, but are they illegal? Could you sue if you found that your realtor was doing something like this?
2) How do you protect yourself from realtors taking advantage of you? Once your realtor is fielding all the calls regarding offers, how can you ensure that the realtor can't pull something on you?
3) Rookie question, I'm sure, but are offers (and other things like counters etc.) documented in any way? I always assumed it was just a telephone conversation.