2013 NHL Supplemental Discipline Thread

[Phaneufenstein]

Shanahan's first call of the year.

B. Schenn hit on Volchenkov

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=414264

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=s-fefHXcuzk

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[Poe969]

I thought it was a good hit.

[Hockeyguy15]

Maybe a fine at the most, and only because there was no penalty called because of a little bit of a jump.

[BBQorMILDEW]

If a Ref watched the hit happen live and didn't even call a penalty, why would Shanny suspend him?

Good hit. IMO.

[Flash Walken]

If a Ref watched the hit happen live and didn't even call a penalty, why would Shanny suspend him?

Good hit. IMO.

Left his feet.

[Samiz]

Clearly leaves his feet before the contact. My guess is that he will get a game or 2 suspension.

[Flash Walken]

He should get more than a game, not because it's egregious, but they should be trying to eliminate that as much as possible from the game.

Make an example.

[Tinordi]

No need for those hits in the modern game, suspend him.

[Stay Golden]

hard hit but it was clean.

[valo403]

Definitely leaves his feet. Should be at least a game, probably more.

[St. Pats]

Max it's a 2 minute penalty. The suspension thing is getting to be a bit of a joke.

[ComixZone]

yeah, he left his feet - it should have been a charging call...suspension or fine? Nah.

[Travis Munroe]

this is a classic ovechkin hit everyone gets upset about and I see little wrong doing. He is off his feet maybe a inch at contact. After contact is when you see him really elevate.
Shanahans calls should be 100% related to did he target the head or chest. I cant really tell on those replays but if Schenn went shoulder to chin/head I give him 1 game. If it was to the shoulder I call it a clean hit.

[Travis Munroe]

yeah, he left his feet - it should have been a charging call...suspension or fine? Nah.

I will agree on the charge due to the distance traveled for the hit....the ref made the error by not calling it 2 minutes. If anyone needs the hearing it should be the official getting a brush up on charging.

[Phaneufenstein]

If I remember correctly, anytime there's in-person meeting with Shanahan a suspension follows.

So probably at least a game for Schenn

[valo403]

I will agree on the charge due to the distance traveled for the hit....the ref made the error by not calling it 2 minutes. If anyone needs the hearing it should be the official getting a brush up on charging.

If you think he left his feet (which you say you do above), even if it's 1", it's charging regardless of the distance traveled.

[Travis Munroe]

If you think he left his feet (which you say you do above), even if it's 1", it's charging regardless of the distance traveled.

By definition yes. I can point out a dozen hits a game where a player leaves his feet an inch for even a small hit along the boards and it is not called. IMO more emphasis is going to be placed on the fact he just came on the ice and B lined it straight for the hit vs leaving his feet by a inch.

[MissTeeks]

1 game for Schenn:

Brendan Shanahan ‏@NHLShanahan
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&id=195296&lang=en … (http://t.co/bRMYPN7j) Schenn suspension video.

[EVERLAST]

these calls make me nuts.....left his feet okay.....maybe he should have just climbed up the boards and DDT'D him as he went by then he would have already in advance left his feet, the playing surface, therefore resulting in a clean hit.

Come on guys if your gonna be dirty and leave your feet think outside the box.

[driveway]

Good call on Shanahan's part: left his feet, targeted the head = 1 game.

[Phaneufenstein]

Isles' McDonald faces supplemental discipline hearing

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=653200&navid=nhl:topheads

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[Flash Walken]

Isles' McDonald faces supplemental discipline hearing

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=653200&navid=nhl:topheads

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That should be a game. At least.

[Phaneufenstein]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie (https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie) "@NHLPlayerSafety (https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety): Colin McDonald suspension video. http://bit.ly/YiQG8d (http://t.co/bfm3eDCd)"// two game suspension.

[Poe969]

Burrows should be suspended for trying something that dumb in a shoot out.

[Phaneufenstein]

Taylor Hall has a hearing at 12:30 MST for a knee hit on Clutterbuck

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[indes]

That Hall hit is just disgusting...I hope he gets at least 5 games

[undercoverbrother]

hmmm doesn't even have possesion of the puck.

[MoneyGuy]

Hall's not a dirty player. He does go all out and crossed the line there. I'm predicting one game, two max.

[FlamesAddiction]

No worse than Hansen clocking Hossa in the back of the head with his elbow. Based on that, 1 game.

[Enoch Root]

I ddn't think it was as bad as some people are saying - I thought he made contact with the hip, not with his knee stuck out like they were suggesting on the FAN.

However, Clutterbuck didn't have the puck, and was vulnerable. No need for the hit and it was definitely dangerous.

I would guess that, as a first time offender, he gets two games.

[Bane]

I ddn't think it was as bad as some people are saying - I thought he made contact with the hip, not with his knee stuck out like they were suggesting on the FAN.

That was my thought too the first dozen or so times watching it. It just looked like a hip check that didn't hit square.

However, around the 50-52 second mark, you can see Hall's knee makes contact, spearing into Clutterbuck's knee, just milliseconds before his hip makes contact.

I don't think it was intentional (a la Marchment)

[FlamesAddiction]

That was my thought too the first dozen or so times watching it. It just looked like a hip check that didn't hit square.

However, around the 50-52 second mark, you can see Hall's knee makes contact, spearing into Clutterbuck's knee, just milliseconds before his hip makes contact.

I don't think it was intentional (a la Marchment)

I think you're right. If you have to slow it right down to the millisecond to tell, it probably isn't intentional (knee on knee), just sloppy.

I do think he meant to hit a player that was not involved in the play though (interference), and that player was injured because of it. It's not that unlike the Glencross hit on Drury a couple of seasons ago in that respect.

[foshizzle11]

First time, didn't intent to get his knee out. 1 game, I would be surprised if it is more.

[MissTeeks]

Mark Spector Sports ‏@SportsnetSpec (‏@SportsnetSpec)

Hall suspended for 2 games.

[jayswin]

Mark Spector Sports ‏@SportsnetSpec

Hall suspended for 2 games.

That seems fair. No history of being a dirty player, but that was a dirty hit.

He seems like a pretty stand up guy though, so I'm sure he'll learn from it.

[thefoss1957]

Looks like Ryan Clowe of the Sharks is gonna be tagged for leaving the bench to protect Pavelski from an Andrew Shaw Boarding...NHL has offered the "in person" hearing that usually means multiple games are being considered.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/sharks-clowe-faces-10-game-ban-leaving-bench-215640249--nhl.html

[killer_carlson]

Patyourheaddy getting a call for a cheap, cheap hit on mcdonough. Mcdonough hits him a shift prior.

A game or two, but these little guys better start getting more games or remove the instigator and let them e accountable that way.

[MissTeeks]

Four games for Corey Perry:

Pierre LeBrun‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun (LeBrun‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun)

4 games for Perry RT @NHLPlayerSafety (https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety): Corey Perry suspension video: http://bit.ly/WnSvSy (http://t.co/z2xr3Qr3l5)

[dammage79]

Two games more for Perry than I thought he would get. Good on the league for not going light on a star player.

[MissTeeks]

Two games for Lupul:

Chris Johnston‏@reporterchris2m (https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/314832467762761728)
Joffrey Lupul suspended two games. #leafs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23leafs&src=hash)


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[devo22]

disappointing, I was hoping for ~5 games. Exactly one of the bonehead plays they try to get out of the game.

[JayFlowmeester]

Would have been a great hit if he didn't leave his feet

[Phaneufenstein]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=418835
No suspension for Nash for elbow on Kopecky

F..ing joke if you ask me

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[Flash Walken]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=418835
No suspension for Nash for elbow on Kopecky

F..ing joke if you ask me

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That is definitely a joke.

High hit from behind to the head.

More of the same from the NHL.

"Solid hockey play."

edit: and nash leaves his feet for good measure.

[MissTeeks]

They didn't have make him have a hearing for that hit. Terrible.

[opendoor]

Edler has got a hearing at 3:00 PDT for hitting Smith last night:

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[Flash Walken]

If Mike Smith doesn't want to get nailed behind the net, he should probably stop wandering out of his crease to interfere with or impede opposition players.

[pseudoreality]

If Mike Smith doesn't want to get nailed behind the net, he should probably stop wandering out of his crease to interfere with or impede opposition players.

Like it or not, goalies are not fair game. You have to avoid contact. A little incidental contact when fighting for the puck is okay, but can't just run them over.

[Flash Walken]

Like it or not, goalies are not fair game. You have to avoid contact. A little incidental contact when fighting for the puck is okay, but can't just run them over.

I agree, and I agree it's a penalty.

I have little sympathy for a guy like Mike Smith though, he routinely makes himself a part of the play by leaving his crease and interfering with an otherwise contested play behind the net.

[wretched34]

How does Hansen get suspended and Nash doesn't??

[MissTeeks]

Nash explaination:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/brendan-shanahan-explains-why-rangers-rick-nash-wasn-220502216--nhl.html


“It was a rotten hit,” Shanahan said he told Nash.
But not a suspension. "There are lots of hits that we don’t like," he said.
“We don’t like this hit. It absolutely should have been a two [minute minor], and probably should have been a five,” said Shanahan, in a phone interview on Friday.
The no-suspension ruling from the NHL on the Nash hit was that it was an awkward, spinning collision between two players in which the significant majority of the contact from Nash landed not on Kopecky’s head, but the back of his shoulders.
“We don’t see this as being principal point of contact to the head. For a fact, we don’t see much contact to the head at all,” said Shanahan.
“On the Florida feed, when you slow it down, you see Kopecky’s back right shoulder is the initial point of contact. If you slow it down even further, you see the back right shoulder and the nameplate aren’t just the initial point of contact, but the principal point of contact.”

[Flash Walken]

Nash explaination:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/brendan-shanahan-explains-why-rangers-rick-nash-wasn-220502216--nhl.html

What utter BS.

So it's a hit from behind where a player leaves his feet, even if you believe that Nash didn't make contact, or 'principle contact' with the head.

Shanahan even says it in his defense. He hits Kopecky right in the numbers and it should've been a penalty.

heads up their asses on this one.

[MissTeeks]

Two games for Edler

[d_phaneuf]

lol at Edler getting 2 games as Nash get's nothing

I agree with the above that a goalie like Smith that is basically allowed to interfere with play behind the net should be somewhat fair game, but it's against the rules so I didn't mind the penalty, but 2 games is ridiculous. I believe Lucic got nothing for the hit on Miller last year

Nash gets nothing for that hit last night

Shanhan is a bigger joke than Campbell was

[KootenayFlamesFan]

2 games for Edler, none for Nash. Wow.

[Phaneufenstein]

Volchenkov will have a hearing today for his elbow on Marchand in last night's game

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[Ped]

Volchenkov will have a hearing today for his elbow on Marchand in last night's game

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I'm not a doctor, and I suppose its part of the rep, but the way Marchand was on his feet and then slowly collapsed to the ice seemed totally fake to me.

[MissTeeks]

Four games:

NHL Player Safety‏@NHLPlayerSafety2m (https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/322403568747433985)

Anton Volchenkov suspension video. http://bit.ly/YfBcRq (http://t.co/aK8geE9iWV)

[CalgaryFan1988]

Was the hit on Marchand really that different than the hit on Stajan? Pretty similar IMO

Two tier league for sure, and Hall will probably get nothing for his two handed slash last night.

[Robbob]

Was the hit on Marchand really that different than the hit on Stajan? Pretty similar IMO

Two tier league for sure, and Hall will probably get nothing for his two handed slash last night.

only reason for the suspension is because the player was injuried

[CalgaryFan1988]

only reason for the suspension is because the player was injuried

But so was Stajan.......

It is pretty moronic that someone has to get hurt for their to be a suspension though.

[dash_pinched]

I would have thought at least a fine was warranted for this Taylor Hall two-hander, but it appears he's getting off scot-free.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/11/report-no-hearing-for-oilers-hall-after-michalek-slash/

[Erick Estrada]

I would have thought at least a fine was warranted for this Taylor Hall two-hander, but it appears he's getting off scot-free.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/11/report-no-hearing-for-oilers-hall-after-michalek-slash/

Player didn't get injured and the Coyotes are not one of the NHL's golden teams.

[transplant99]

I'm not a doctor, and I suppose its part of the rep, but the way Marchand was on his feet and then slowly collapsed to the ice seemed totally fake to me.


He is concussed....quite a fake job indeed.


The Boston Bruins (http://espn.go.com/nhl/team/_/name/bos/boston-bruins) announced Thursday evening that left winger Brad Marchand (http://espn.go.com/nhl/player/_/id/3852/brad-marchand) suffered a mild concussion on the elbow hit to the head he took Wednesday night from New Jersey Devils (http://espn.go.com/nhl/team/_/name/nj/new-jersey-devils) defenseman Anton Volchenkov (http://espn.go.com/nhl/player/_/id/1489/anton-volchenkov).
The Bruins did not say how long Marchand would be out. The announcement from general manager Peter Chiarelli said the team will "provide an update on his status when appropriate."

[devo22]

I would have thought at least a fine was warranted for this Taylor Hall two-hander, but it appears he's getting off scot-free.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/11/report-no-hearing-for-oilers-hall-after-michalek-slash/
just saw the incident ... unbelievable decision. Should have been at least 3-5 games, given that Hall was already suspended once this season. Disappointing job by Shanahan's wheel of justice.

[krynski]

Player didn't get injured and the Coyotes are not one of the NHL's golden teams.

If this was the Flames, they wouldn't have cared. Everyone would skate right back to bench as if nothing happened- at least, that's what it seems like the last bunch of games.

I can't believe he's not getting disciplined for that. That is ridiculously malicious. Sure, he didn't go for the head, but that was a blatant baseball swing to slash a guy. There was definite intent to inflict harm.

[Oil Stain]

I thought the Hall slash was much worse then his suspension earlier this season.

So much for Shanahan being a change in direction. haha

[Erick Estrada]

I thought the Hall slash was much worse then his suspension earlier this season.

So much for Shanahan being a change in direction. haha

Politics gets in the way. Shanahan is just like any politician that is all piss and vinegar in the voting process only to do an about face when he gets in office and learns that the internal roadblocks are much more daunting than they appear from the outside. The only way it could be carried out effectively and fair is to have a neutral organization handle it. As long as the league handles it suspensions will always be handed out in a manner that keeps their best interests in mind. It's not in the league's best interests to have big name players suspended when customers are paying top dollar to see said players on the ice nightly. Same with the markets. It's easier to penalize players on smaller market teams and teams with less influential ownership as there's less backlash.

[Robbob]

I think the NHL wants to keep Hall in the lineup so they don't tank and another marketable player gets sent to Edmonton...not good for the league.