Keenan & Kipper: Is trouble brewing or is it media manufactured?
I seriously want to put this to bed, so maybe CP can find any semblance of evidence that there is a problem between them, and if not, I (and some of you, I'm sure) can sleep a little better tonight.
Are these writers just trying to sell papers? Do any of them actually have any kind of source for these unsubstantiated articles?
I can't remember who it was on the Fan but they were saying the only reason Kipper avoided the media on the 25th was that he's concerned that with his english not being perfect, the Media will totally mis-construe what he's trying to say. I for one, trust the Fan more than any papers in this town because they have a pretty close relationship with the organization and the players.
Well, Miikka Kiprusoff may have been able to escape the media watchdogs. But he'll not be escaping the iron hand of Iron Mike.
From that, short of demanding a trade, there is no parole.
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Kiprusoff, surprisingly, didn't seem to be a hot-button topic, despite their marriage being publicized as right out of Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
"I didn't speak to him,'' said Keenan. "I will."
"Do I want to speak to him? Yes.
"Is he unhappy? I'm sure he is. Every one of our players is unhappy. They feel a pain.''
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Last edited by alltherage; 04-27-2008 at 01:44 PM.
IMO, Kiprusoff needs the tough love. He is longer a bargain and his salary comes with certain expectations. Even though Kiprusoff more or less got it together in the 2nd half, he still lacked consistency. Keenan is just doing his job and probably wants Kiprusoff to focus during the offseason.
The media always makes too much of these things. The coach is supposed to be hard on players sometimes.
IMO, Kiprusoff needs the tough love. He is longer a bargain and his salary comes with certain expectations. Even though Kiprusoff more or less got it together in the 2nd half, he still lacked consistency. Keenan is just doing his job and probably wants Kiprusoff to focus during the offseason.
The media always makes too much of these things. The coach is supposed to be hard on players sometimes.
I agree w/ this. Plus it is unlikely that Kipper is going anywhere anytime soon w/ his contract. The only reason to get rid of him would be bad play, and who wants to take a goalie w/ a large long-term contract that is not playing well.
Buyout is another option, but we are a long way from that. I think Kipper will definitely play more consistently next year (as will others on the team).
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The media is merely siffing around looking for a story.
Kiprusoff skips out on on season ending interviews and suddenly there's a rift between him and Keenan. I'm sure Kipper was expecting questions along this line and perhaps decided it was best to slip out the back door into his waiting getaway vehicle. Now the media will have to wait till training camp.
I would say that 99% of all the Keenan clippings this past year have been all media "fear breathing" based.
The media I would say knows well about Mike's iron side and feel that it is their need to coddle the players and fans by over analyzing every move and decision he makes. A sign of a true leader will do whats best for the group, organization as he sees fit in his eyes without second guessing what someone will say, do, think about his decisions. He is paid to make hard decisions. Pulling Kipper probably wasn't the best decision. A timeout probably would have been the better choice to have made during that game at the time... But at least he did something!!
The players also know that the coach has their back during the game and will stand up for his players, but Keenan is not blind to what his players are doing and will call a spade a spade.
As for the media side, I would take more of what Eric D has to say or write to heart as opposed to most media outlets who just want to cower in fear of the potential iron Mike and as a result want you to share that same fear with them.
It might be much ado about nothing, but you can't automatically dismiss it without a thought. Keenan has a long history of alienating players. Gretzky, Belfour, Joseph, Linden, Pronger, Shanahan, Hull. Some deal with it, others haven't been able to.
Sure it's Kiprusoff's nature to stay out of the spotlight, so avoiding the media on the last day might just be Kipper being Kipper. But that doesn't mean he's not angry at Keenan and that it's not a possible issue to deal with next year. Unless someone is Kiprusoff's fishing buddy, we might not know until training camp how it is.
I think its media created. Thing is the media was used to having Jim Playfair coddle his players, and in the rare occasion he called them out, he apologized
Just because Kipper is a top player doesn't mean he should be immune to criticism if he isn't at the top of his game.
Kipper let this city down and he knows it. That's why he avoided the media.
How is that less of a supposition than the media saying it's a sign Kiprusoff and Keenan are at odds? If anything, it's more of one.
As mentioned, Keenan has a history of alienating players and has run a few out of town, so it's a valid point of speculation. But nobody should be speaking in absolutes at the moment. The media shouldn't say there ABSOLUTELY a problem between the goalie and the coach, but neither should Joe Fan say there's ABSOLUTELY no problem and that this controversy is entirely media driven. It's all a bunch of maybes and could-bes. Point is, until Kiprusoff is liquored up and spills his true feelings, nobody will know for sure. And if this is a problem, maybe a summer of landing trout will make him a happy Kipper again by training camp.
And if this is a problem, maybe a summer of landing trout will make him a happy Kipper again by training camp.
I think we all know that the only thing that will improve his season's readiness is training harder in the offseason rather than going fishing...
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Eric Francis is trying to get this city worried. That guy lacks the skills it takes to be a good sports writer.
Francis is a big douche, there's no doubt about it, but unfortunately he can't be blamed for this article. It's written by George Johnson.
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Last edited by alltherage; 04-27-2008 at 04:23 PM.
I always make it a point to stay away from media and even this board shortly after garbage day. I think the media has been looking for that Iron Mike story all year long and it never came. The season is over and people go their way. Everybody knows what kipper is like when dealing with the media. I don't recall seeing a huge uproar when Kipper didn't make any comments last year (or at least I don't remember any).
Not that he would comment directly on this line of thinking, but why hasn't anyone interviewed Marcoux, and gotten his thoughts on how things went with Kipper this year? I'd love to know what he thinks could have been improved, what he would like Kipper to work on in the summer, his thoughts on pulling a starter in the playoffs, etc.
the only person kipper should be mad at he will be seeing every morning when he wakes up all looks at the mirror. kipper was pulled cause he let in some weak goals. its not the ones you stop its the ones you let in. after that game tieing goal i thought kipper should get the hook.
face it kipper wasnt ready at the start of the season. that cost this team the northwest, he wasnt at his best in the playoffs.
so ethier kipper can take a long hard look at what he has to do to change this offseason to be ready. or he can be a child and get mad at the coach.
if kipper takes this and learns we could be looking great next season. if he goes back to finland and smokes and fishes and stews all summer long about how the coach was unfair to me. then he is done and it would be better for the whole club if he misses training camp and just hangs up the pads.
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Keenan & Kipper: Is trouble brewing or is it media manufactured?
