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Default Flames Projected Offensive Stats

So I am stuck at work all weekend, and I figured I would play with Excel a little, and compile some of the Flames offensive stats. I used to do it on an old 286 when I was a kid, but we didn’t have the internet, so I would read the scoring totals from the newspaper into a tape deck and then play it back filling in each cell as I went along.

The internet makes it easier.

(This is a great way to learn about spreadsheet formulas BTW. Everything I know about excel I learned when I was 14 and filling in Flames scoring statistics)

This only deals with scoring. Defensive play, team play, toughness, plus minus are not included in any sense. Pure, hockey poolie scoring, nothing more.

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	Projected			
Name	GP	G	A	Pts
Iginla	82	57	60	117
Langkow	80	30	42	72
Juice	82	32	37	70
Tanguay	82	17	52	70
Phaneuf	82	15	45	60
Lombo	82	17	25	42
Aucoin	80	12	27	40
Conroy	82	10	20	30
Nolan	80	15	10	25
Regehr	82	7	12	20
Bubba	70	2	12	15
Moss	60	2	10	12
Sarich	82	5	5	10
Nystrom	57	2	7	10
Yelle	70	2	5	7
Sarge	47	0	7	7
Boyd	27	5	2	7
Nilson	57	5	0	5
Smith	57	0	2	2
Godard	72	2	0	2
Hale	47	0	2	2
Primeau	15	0	0	0
Ramholt	2	0	0	0
Here are the projected stats for the Calgary Flames if each player continues their current pace and number of games played. I threw in a couple nicknames just to throw off noobs, thieves, and Soiler fans (and cause I couldn’t get the columns to line up right). This is based on the scoring totals of the Flames prior to the Stl game on Sunday December 16, 2007.

Interesting points

• Iginla obviously having his best statistical year ever. So much for the folks who say he only turns it up for an impending contract year, or that past the age of 30 you don’t set career highs anymore. I hope he is our version of Joe Sakic and pours in points until he retires.

• Daymond Langkow apparently looking to add another 30 goal season to his resume. Mr. Consistency does it again. We really need to resign this guy.

• Lombardi’s totals currently roughly comparable to last season. I would have expected more of an offensive breakout from him after watching the World Championship, but the coaching staff has been using him sparingly in the top 6.


Code:
	Pace					Career			
Name	GP	G	A	Pts		Name	GP	G	A	Pts
Iginla	82	57	60	117		Iginla	82	52	55	96
Langkow	82	31	44	74		Langkow	82	33	44	77
Juice	82	32	37	70		Juice	81	34	43	77
Tanguay	82	17	52	70		Tanguay	82	29	59	81
Phaneuf	82	15	45	60		Phaneuf	82	20	33	50
Lombo	82	17	25	42		Lombo	81	20	26	46
Aucoin	82	13	28	41		Aucoin	81	23	31	44
Conroy	82	10	20	30		Conroy	81	27	48	75
Nolan	82	15	10	26		Nolan	78	44	43	84
Regehr	82	7	12	20		Regehr	82	6	20	26
Bubba	82	3	15	18		Bubba	79	7	25	28
Moss	82	3	14	17		Moss	41	10	8	18
Sarich	82	5	5	10		Sarich	82	5	16	19
Nystrom	82	4	11	14		Nystrom	23	1	3	4
Yelle	82	3	6	9		Yelle	82	13	17	27
Sarge	82	0	13	13		Sarge	79	5	16	19
Boyd	82	15	7	22		Boyd	11	2	1	3
Nilson	82	7	0	7		Nilson	82	15	24	36
Smith	82	0	4	4		Smith	80	9	15	24
Godard	82	3	0	3		Godard	57	2	2	4
Hale	82	0	4	4		Hale	65	0	4	4
Primeau	82	0	0	0		Primeau	72	9	20	29
Ramholt	82	0	0	0		Ramholt	1	0	0	0
Here is the scoring pace each player is on if they were to play a full season. Obviously some guys are still able to do that, others have already missed a few games. But ultimately if you say “scoring at a 20 goal pace” you typically mean, if the player played every game.

Finally you throw in the career years. The point total isn’t the sum of the goal and assist totals in every case – it is the most points the player ever achieved in a given season. Bolded players are scoring at a pace exceeding their career years.


Interesting points

• The good news is that we have 3 players on pace to score 30 goals or more. The bad news is that we only have 3 players on pace to score 18 goals or more – the same guys. Our lack of depth at secondary scoring is pretty clearly exposed.

• Boyd is playing at a 15 goal pace – the equivalent of Owen Nolan, and only slightly behind Lombardi and Tanguay. His scoring pace is also higher than Nystrom, Conroy and Moss despite 4th line duty. That says “talent” to me. He isn’t really ready for extensive NHL duty yet, but he may emerge as an impact player in the next few years.

• Nolan has never played 80 games in a season.

• Robyn Regehr is on pace to surpass his career high of 6 goals in a season, but not his pts high of 26.

• Langkow and Huselius are coming off career years – so it is nice to see them maintain their scoring pace. Interesting that Juice is considered an offensive wizard, but Langkow is the slightly more productive player. Perhaps they do care HOW you score em!

• Alex Tanguay has never had a 30 goal season.

• Adrian Aucoin has never had more than 44 points in a season. For a guy who some suggested would be injury prone and too old to contribute… well he’s on pace to play 80 games and put up 41 points.

• For all the talk of the game moving past Yelle, last season he set a career PPG, and with 3 more points would have tied his all time high in points – despite playing only 56 games. This says to me that his current struggles are a product of Keenan limiting his ice time more than his age. That said, last season was last season, and this season he has been pretty bad in his 5 mins a game. He’s my favorite player, so it bothers me to see him not contributing.

• Phaneuf’s goalscoring has dipped, and that makes sense since he doesn’t seem to unload the cannon as often on the PP. But he is on pace to set career highs in both assists and points. The development of our monster continues.
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Old 12-16-2007, 11:34 AM   #2
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I really wish the coaching staff would give Lombardi more of a chance in the top 6. He's never going to be anything more than a 35-45 pt 3rd liner for us if we don't give him a chance to blossom.
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Old 12-16-2007, 11:37 AM   #3
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Wow. Iginla just has filthy stuff. Filthy.

I think Tanguay's and Lombardi's paces will rise and Huselius will fall off a bit.
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Old 12-16-2007, 12:53 PM   #4
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I really wish the coaching staff would give Lombardi more of a chance in the top 6. He's never going to be anything more than a 35-45 pt 3rd liner for us if we don't give him a chance to blossom.
It is a double edged sword when you come to Lombardi. He doesn't currently look like he deserves more time in the top 6 when you base it on his play. But because he isn't getting that time with good linemates, it is kind of hard to say. Long term I think it is safe to say he will work his way up there, but it is disappointing he doesn't seem ready to seize it yet.
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:03 PM   #5
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Good stuff.

Iginla is beyond human.

I think a lot of people figured the offensive stats would sacrificed this year with Keenan coming in.

Phaneuf on pace for 60 points too....good stuff!
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:39 PM   #6
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:40 PM   #7
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LOL. I guess I'm one of those noobs
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It is a double edged sword when you come to Lombardi. He doesn't currently look like he deserves more time in the top 6 when you base it on his play. But because he isn't getting that time with good linemates, it is kind of hard to say. Long term I think it is safe to say he will work his way up there, but it is disappointing he doesn't seem ready to seize it yet.
but yet when Lombardi has gotten a chance on the top 6 i thought he looked great. he seems like the prototypical player who needs great linemates to excel. sure we'd love for every player on the Flames to be able to produce no matter who they're paired with, but when that isn't the case i think it's just best to match the players so that you can get the most out of them. i really don't see why we can't have a Huselius-Langkow-Iginla and Tanguay-Lombardi-Nolan/Boyd as a top 6. if anything Lombardi has shown he deserves to be there more than Conroy, who continually gets a 2nd line shift while having nothing to show for it
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