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Old 04-08-2007, 01:48 PM   #1
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Eric Duhatschek and the Globe & Mail's take on the Flames.
Talks to the players who have noticed the negativity.
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Still, not many teams get booed off the ice, on the same night they clinched a playoff spot, but that's how it went in Cowtown on Saturday night.
"That's OK," said centre Craig Conroy. "Obviously, they weren't happy with the performance. That's their right to do that."
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The net results have been mixed thus far — more goals scored and also more goals surrendered. Nothing can salvage a so-so regular season better than an inspired playoff, which is why Conroy, for one, was accentuating the positive.
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"We've been dwelling on so many negatives around the team all the time — negative, negative. I think we've got to be positive, just lighten the mood a little."
I've been negative at times, but I'm more than willing and hopeful of eating copious crow in the post season.
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Old 04-08-2007, 01:55 PM   #2
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Well, they are in, NEW SEASON. It is all up for grabs now.

A lot to look forward to. They can do it. Why not be positive?
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Old 04-08-2007, 01:58 PM   #3
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Well, they are in, NEW SEASON. It is all up for grabs now.
Indeed - wipe the slate clean. If the past two playoffs have shown, regular season doesnt necessarily translate to playoff success or failure. Flames in '04, Oilers in '06, and the 5,6,7,8 seeds in the west advancing in the first round in the west.
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:40 PM   #4
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I hate when people boooo their own team. Its on par with the <insert team name here> SUCK chant. It doesnt help your home team any and its time home fans started supporting this team through thick and thin. The reason the 04 Flames could do no wrong is because the FANS considered every game every period an accomplishment (vs the previous 8 years). This year its like everytime a faceoff is lost its the worst thing in the world.

I understand expectations are high, but it took over 90 points to make the playoffs this year. GO FLAMES GO and congratulations on a great season.

(PS if any of you season ticket holders/fans at the game are complaining about value for your buck. I will gladly take your tickets off your hand for you....Disgusting what you did last night)
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:41 PM   #5
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I hate when people boooo their own team. Its on par with the <insert team name here> SUCK chant. It doesnt help your home team any and its time home fans started supporting this team through thick and thin. The reason the 04 Flames could do no wrong is because the FANS considered every game every period an accomplishment (vs the previous 8 years). This year its like everytime a faceoff is lost its the worst thing in the world.

I understand expectations are high, but it took over 90 points to make the playoffs this year. GO FLAMES GO and congratulations on a great season.

(PS if any of you season ticket holders/fans at the game are complaining about value for your buck. I will gladly take your tickets off your hand for you....Disgusting what you did last night)
If millionaires give any less than 100%, then fans have every right to boo them.
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:45 PM   #6
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If millionaires give any less than 100%, then fans have every right to boo them.
Why waste your time going to boo when there are thousands of people in calgary who would cheer their team on through anything. You win some and you lose some, the team isnt going to try any harder because you boo'd them. Everyone gets disappointed of course...but a quiet stadium of disappointed fans is just as good at getting the message across without dropping to that level.
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:46 PM   #7
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If millionaires give any less than 100%, then fans have every right to boo them.
The booing didn't bother me, but I could have done without the garbage being thrown on the ice after the buzzer went.
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:49 PM   #8
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The Flames did play an uninspired game after they cliched a playoff spot, however given the circumstances last night, I feel that was one of the worst crowds at flames game in a long time. 0 support when the game was tied, most people sitting down when the Flames did score, quiet all night long, and then they boo them off the ice after they cliched a playoff spot. I would give anything to go back to the end of the regular season in '04, that was an amazing feeling, the team and fans were truley one. Now we're like leaf fans, there is a disconnect between fans and players, we expect everything and are happy with nothing. Personally, I hate having this new fan base. I don't care how good the Flames are on paper, being part of a fanbase sucks when all people do is complain about everything and won't be happy until this teams wins a cup. It sucks!
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:56 PM   #9
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The Flames did play an uninspired game after they cliched a playoff spot, however given the circumstances last night, I feel that was one of the worst crowds at flames game in a long time. 0 support when the game was tied, most people sitting down when the Flames did score, quiet all night long, and then they boo them off the ice after they cliched a playoff spot. I would give anything to go back to the end of the regular season in '04, that was an amazing feeling, the team and fans were truley one. Now we're like leaf fans, there is a disconnect between fans and players, we expect everything and are happy with nothing. Personally, I hate having this new fan base. I don't care how good the Flames are on paper, being part of a fanbase sucks when all people do is complain about everything and won't be happy until this teams wins a cup. It sucks!
Fans were great during the first 10 minutes, but as the game/effort went south, so did the Fans. There was about a 10 minute lag time, where the fans were trying to get the team energized, but they didn't respond.

What exactly are you looking for? Should we go down on the ice and hold Iginla's hand?

The Fans in this city aren't going to blindly cheer when you aren't giving 100% effort. That is a simple fact. They'll try to help you out of the rut initially, but if you don't put in the effort, expect to get booed.
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Old 04-08-2007, 04:13 PM   #10
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The Fans in this city aren't going to blindly cheer when you aren't giving 100% effort.
But that is what is expected by so many on this board. You aren't a fan unless you blindly cheer everything the team does. If you don't, you're a "bandwagoner".
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Old 04-08-2007, 04:28 PM   #11
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I don't have a problem with the Flames getting boo'ed off the ice. As my wife said if I had paid the money that they are asking for tickets I expect to see a team play a full 60 minute effort and not slack ass it against the worst team of late in the NHL. Playoff spot clinched or not the fans deserve more respect then that
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Old 04-08-2007, 04:42 PM   #12
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They flames the bed as soon as Nashville clinched our spot for us... they deserved to get boo'd off. Fans paid alot of money to see them play a 60 minute game, regardless of the playoff spot.
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Old 04-08-2007, 05:01 PM   #13
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But that is what is expected by so many on this board. You aren't a fan unless you blindly cheer everything the team does. If you don't, you're a "bandwagoner".
I see where you are coming from and I respect your opinion Lanny, but there is a difference between cheering and critically analysing/questioning and cheering/booing. Fans have every right to question a teams motivation, players and coaching etc. but at the end of the day when the team loses, a fan does NOT pound on them some more. Sure you can and SHOULD analyze what went wrong, but booing your own team does nothing but make us a poor fan base.
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People paid for the game and those seats the least the millionaires could do is give a good effort.
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Old 04-08-2007, 05:36 PM   #15
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People paid for the game and those seats the least the millionaires could do is give a good effort.
Then why pay for seats to watch these "millionaires". Leave the seats to fans who will support the team and go home and change the channel if you need to.This team has the best home record in the league and you are complaining about one of 9 losses out of 41. Come on.
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As far as I'm concerned, if you pay for a seat in the saddledome, you have every right to cheer and boo as you wish.

The employees at the Saddledome seem to agree with me. The Flames played with passion until they knew that they secured the playoff spot. After that, they mailed it in; to Edmonton of all teams.

I enjoyed boo'ing them off the ice as I know many others did. It will remind them to play a full 60 minutes.
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Then why pay for seats to watch these "millionaires". Leave the seats to fans who will support the team and go home and change the channel if you need to.This team has the best home record in the league and you are complaining about one of 9 losses out of 41. Come on.
Because maybe they didn't have a crystal ball to tell them that the Flames were going to mail it in?
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Then why pay for seats to watch these "millionaires". Leave the seats to fans who will support the team and go home and change the channel if you need to.This team has the best home record in the league and you are complaining about one of 9 losses out of 41. Come on.
I didn't boo but with the lack off effort in the last 15 games besides that 6 game streak I as a fan would be PISSED OFF. Also considering the Flames have gone 3-3-1 in their last 7 home games.
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The Flames did play an uninspired game after they cliched a playoff spot, however given the circumstances last night, I feel that was one of the worst crowds at flames game in a long time. 0 support when the game was tied, most people sitting down when the Flames did score, quiet all night long, and then they boo them off the ice after they cliched a playoff spot. I would give anything to go back to the end of the regular season in '04, that was an amazing feeling, the team and fans were truley one. Now we're like leaf fans, there is a disconnect between fans and players, we expect everything and are happy with nothing. Personally, I hate having this new fan base. I don't care how good the Flames are on paper, being part of a fanbase sucks when all people do is complain about everything and won't be happy until this teams wins a cup. It sucks!

I got told to go back to the ghetto for pointing out that very fact in the gamethread last night. Lucky I didn't bust a cap.
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I wasn't part of the contingent that was booing, but I was definitly upset. It was like all effore left after the announcement. THEY suddenly got lazy and stupid for the most part.

In all fairness the Oilers player a good game, but still, wow, just watching their passes you could tell how much better the Flames were than them. Even if the Flames couldn't (or didn't want to) match the Oilers effort they should have won. It was a lazy effort after the announcement came on and that's wht makes people mad, not the fact that they lost.

I'd rather watch a team that is supposed to lose but gives it their all, then a team that tries to mail it in at the end and has every reason to win.

Roloson had a great game.
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