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Old 08-02-2012, 07:54 AM   #441
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Of course it annoys me. You asked if you hurt my feelings. Big difference.

If there was a salad appreciation day you wouldn't know because positive aspects of America don't seem to interest you in the least.

BTW....not all of us are celebrating Chik-Fil-A appreciation day. In fact, most of us aren't!
Honestly there's nothing malicious in my intent. Just poking a little fun is all. If you wanna poke a little fun at us for living in igloos or eating blubber, be my guest. I have much love for America, but I love Canada too and pretty constantly make fun of aspects of this country as well. But if it annoys you that I do so, I shall attempt to refrain from the pot shots wherever possible (though sometimes it'll be too easy to pass up)

I wish there were more positive stories about America, but as well all know those don't get reported. The newsmedia mantra is "If it bleeds, it leads"; obviously negative and polarizing stories get more play (ratings and reads) than stories of positivity. That usually is why they squeeze them in at the end of the broadcast, after 29 minutes of negativity.

And Chick-Fil-A sucks when you have Popeyes available to eat from as well. Mmmm Popeyes.
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Old 08-02-2012, 08:06 AM   #442
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...Is marriage really necessary these days? What for? Does it serve some vital purpose, or is it becoming an archaic 'tradition' that could be lost to time...
I think probably not. Marriage might have become unnecessary, but there are a great many things in our society that are unnecessary, yet will always be with us. In many respects, what makes our society great is simply that there are so many things that we enjoy, but do not require. What I mean by "unnecessary" is that the survival of our culture or any "tribe" does not depend upon the institution of marriage, like it once did in the ancient world. The purpose for marriage has changed to meet the social will from procreation and ensuring progeny to a celebration of relational commitment. I expect that there will always be the social will to express this.
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Honestly there's nothing malicious in my intent. Just poking a little fun is all. If you wanna poke a little fun at us for living in igloos or eating blubber, be my guest. I have much love for America, but I love Canada too and pretty constantly make fun of aspects of this country as well. But if it annoys you that I do so, I shall attempt to refrain from the pot shots wherever possible (though sometimes it'll be too easy to pass up)
I know it is not mallicious or aimed at anyone in particular. It just gets old. Especially the sarcastic one liners like "God bless America" or "Land of the Free indeed!". You're not the only one who does it. There is PLENTY that I can't stand about my country. I certainly won't refrain from sharing my opinion on those issues either.

I don't have any desire to poke fun at Canadians. First of all, my wife is 1/4 Inupiaq (Alaskan Eskimo) so I'm not big on blubber and igloo jokes. Secondly, my wife moved to Canada when she was 6 months old and spent the next 17 years there. She is Canadian, though not a citizen. Thirdly, being from NW Montana and having made many trips across the border, I love Canada!
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I wish there were more positive stories about America, but as well all know those don't get reported. The newsmedia mantra is "If it bleeds, it leads"; obviously negative and polarizing stories get more play (ratings and reads) than stories of positivity. That usually is why they squeeze them in at the end of the broadcast, after 29 minutes of negativity.
No argument there. Don Henley wrote a great song about that 30 years ago and it has only gotten worse.

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And Chick-Fil-A sucks when you have Popeyes available to eat from as well. Mmmm Popeyes.
Amen to that, though Popeyes could use a good chicken sandwich alternative to the Po' Boy which is nothing more than strips on a bun. I'm no Chik-Fil-A fan.
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:39 PM   #444
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I found this to be rather thought provoking. Particularly the unnecessary part. Is marriage really necessary these days? What for? Does it serve some vital purpose, or is it becoming an archaic 'tradition' that could be lost to time. This should keep me busy at work tomorrow.
A same-sex couple being able to marry involves a lot more than the religious aspects of "traditional marriage." There are tax benefits, as well as insurance benefits involved, as well as issues that come up when one part of that couple falls ill--if not legally married, no matter how long a couple has been together, the healthy partner would be unable to access health information for their mate. If that mate were to pass away, the living partner would be unable to reap the same benefits that a straight widow/widower would receive. If that couple had children, often only one parent would have legal rights to said children, and the remaining parent would have no legal connection to keep those children, placing them in an already over-wrought foster care system.

Those of you who are so adamantly supporting "traditional marriage" how would you feel if your children were taken from you if your mate died? If you were unable to get your mate's legal/financial benefits if they were to pass away?

These simple, basic things are what you're saying homosexual couples don't deserve. The love, camaraderie, security and companionship of a healthy, long-lasting relationship?

This does not affect heterosexual marriages. It does not cheapen your marriage anymore than 24 hour chapels in Vegas cheapen the institution. Why are these same "traditional marriage" proponents not arguing against divorces, or against people remarrying if their marriage did not end due to adultery? The only way someone can remarry, per the Bible, is if one partner commits adultery, or if one partner dies. So why aren't these same people clamoring against quickie divorces?

It isn't about the "sanctity of marriage" any more than most "pro-life" groups are about supporting healthy quality of life for children. It's about controlling a group of people that someone sees as inferior.
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If that couple had children, often only one parent would have legal rights to said children, and the remaining parent would have no legal connection to keep those children, placing them in an already over-wrought foster care system.
Someone did a piss poor job explaining the birds and the bees to you when you were younger. That couple can't "have" children.
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Someone did a piss poor job explaining the birds and the bees to you when you were younger. That couple can't "have" children.
And you must be living with your head up your ass. Gay.couples have been adopting and raising children for decades.
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Someone did a piss poor job explaining the birds and the bees to you when you were younger. That couple can't "have" children.
A gay male couple can adopt, those children would likely consider their parents to be their fathers, as most adopted children do.

For lesbians it's even easier! Get a sperm donor! Then ta-da, that lesbian couple has a child.

I have a client at work whose daughter is dying, and her partner is scrambling because the children are biologically not hers, and if her wife dies, those children go into foster care.

Explain to me how that's fair?

And then, while you're at it, explain to me why those who clamor on about the "sanctity of marriage" aren't protesting outside the offices of divorce lawyers, who are not only assisting in the breakdown of marriages, but they're also profiting huge amounts of money to do so.

If it was about sanctity of marriage, truly, there wouldn't be such a laissez faire take on divorce in this country.
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And you must be living with your head up your ass. Gay.couples have been adopting and raising children for decades.
That's rather rude. Your mother must have done a poor job of raising you, regardless of her sexuality, for you to be that rude.

Having children means creating children, not adopting or raising them.
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If porn teaches us anything, it's that a lesbian couple will inevitably invite a man into their little arrangement at the slightest excuse, and thus procreation can occur. So at least one half of the gay couples don't even have to adopt.
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:55 PM   #450
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Having children means creating children, not adopting or raising them.
No it doesn't.

I have a friend that I am really close to, has three children. Him and his wife have adopted a boy and two girls. They have three kids.
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A gay male couple can adopt, those children would likely consider their parents to be their fathers, as most adopted children do.

For lesbians it's even easier! Get a sperm donor! Then ta-da, that lesbian couple has a child.

I have a client at work whose daughter is dying, and her partner is scrambling because the children are biologically not hers, and if her wife dies, those children go into foster care.

Explain to me how that's fair?
Do you think it is fair to bring a child into the world without a father? Especially when there are plenty of children in the world in foster care?

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And then, while you're at it, explain to me why those who clamor on about the "sanctity of marriage" aren't protesting outside the offices of divorce lawyers, who are not only assisting in the breakdown of marriages, but they're also profiting huge amounts of money to do so.

If it was about sanctity of marriage, truly, there wouldn't be such a laissez faire take on divorce in this country.
Two wrongs don't make a right.

Divorce is far too easy to get and it does mean people do take marriage far less seriously. It's unfortunate that there's no support to make it more difficult to get.
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Having children means creating children, not adopting or raising them.
I do some litigation work with respect to child protection matters, and one thing is clear to me (this is a trite observation, but whatever): creating children is the easy part of having children. Raising children is the hard part.
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Do you think it is fair to bring a child into the world without a father? Especially when there are plenty of children in the world in foster care?
As I recall, studies have consistently concluded that lesbians raise significantly happier and healthier children than other parental cohorts.
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If porn teaches us anything, it's that a lesbian couple will inevitably invite a man into their little arrangement at the slightest excuse, and thus procreation can occur. So at least one half of the gay couples don't even have to adopt.
But it's usually the pizza delivery guy. Do you really think that the pizza delivery guy genes should be getting passed on to lesbians' offspring all over North America?
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As I recall, studies have consistently concluded that lesbians raise significantly happier and healthier children than other parental cohorts.
I would bet money those studies were conducted by lesbians.
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If porn teaches us anything, it's that a lesbian couple will inevitably invite a man into their little arrangement at the slightest excuse, and thus procreation can occur. So at least one half of the gay couples don't even have to adopt.
lol, the sperm doesn't end up in the va-jay-jay.


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Do you think it is fair to bring a child into the world without a father? Especially when there are plenty of children in the world in foster care?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Divorce is far too easy to get and it does mean people do take marriage far less seriously. It's unfortunate that there's no support to make it more difficult to get.
Man this one made me laugh. So you'd rather have a child raised by an alcoholic, physically and mentally abusive father than by two lesbian mothers? But its ok because its a father in the kids life?
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Do you think it is fair to bring a child into the world without a father? Especially when there are plenty of children in the world in foster care?
Watch this video and then ask yourself if you still believe lesbian couples cannot raise productive members of society with strong moral character.

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Do you think it is fair to bring a child into the world without a father? Especially when there are plenty of children in the world in foster care?



Two wrongs don't make a right.

Divorce is far too easy to get and it does mean people do take marriage far less seriously. It's unfortunate that there's no support to make it more difficult to get.
What if they have two fathers? Also, sex has no bearing on the aptitude of a parent. Two moms beats one mom and a deadbeat dad or vice versa
So ban divorce and gay marriage and we are better for it in your opinion?
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Do you think it is fair to bring a child into the world without a father? Especially when there are plenty of children in the world in foster care?
I want you to reflect on what you said, and give me 5 reasons why this argument is retarded.

It's 5:07, you have until 7:00 mountain standard time.
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