05-24-2015, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
It depends what the rest of my team looks like.
If the rest of the team core is a bit older I'd be tempted to go with Getzlaf and Perry as they are over $4 million dollars cheaper starting next season.
That would give me more cap space to go for it over the next 4-5 years.
If the core is younger/ not quite ready to contend then Toews and Kane would be the choice.
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The rest of your team looks like hot garbage!
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05-24-2015, 09:03 PM
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#42
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#1 Goaltender
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Getzlaf and Perry. Size and skill. Goal scorer and playmaker. Grit. Cheaper. Put Getzlaf and Perry on the Hawks and that team would be a lock for the Cup.
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05-24-2015, 09:28 PM
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#43
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Starting any new team I take Kane and Toews. Adding to the flames current roster I take Getzlaf and Perry.
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05-24-2015, 10:19 PM
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#44
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Powerplay Quarterback
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You could win with either tandem. On the ice it's pretty much a tie.
I'd take Getzlaf/Perry on my team. I have a hard time cheering for a guy who beat the #### out of a 70 year old cabbie.
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05-25-2015, 06:47 AM
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#45
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First Line Centre
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To build a franchise, I'd take Kane and Toews because they're younger.
If it was for a single game against a team of hockey playing cartoon aliens, playing for the fate of humanity ala Space Jam, I'd take Getzlaf and Perry.
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05-25-2015, 07:13 AM
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#46
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Getzlaf? Surely, you mean Perry...
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Nope, never met Perry.
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05-25-2015, 08:04 AM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Toews and Perry if there was that choice.
Although Perry is the type of player that other teams hate, he is pretty effective and you can see that he cares about winning.
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05-25-2015, 08:07 AM
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It's a tough decision, but Getzlaf/Perry for me. Mostly because of their size, but also because I love a pest and Perry fills that role perfectly.
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05-25-2015, 09:44 AM
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#49
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That's a tough one since both duos are excellent. Ultimately, you'd probably have to pick Toews/Kane, but only by a slight margin. Getzlaf/Perry are also a very special combination of grit, size & Skill.
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05-25-2015, 10:11 AM
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GOAT!
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Kane/Anybody
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05-25-2015, 10:33 AM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
He does right now. He looks unstoppable every shift. It could be this is just the moment he finally decided to be the best player in the world.
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Getzlaf is a great player, but looking unstoppable for a few games doesn't mean he finally deciding to be the best player on the ice.
Mason Raymond can look unstoppable for 3 games in a row.
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05-25-2015, 10:37 AM
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by Azure
Mason Raymond can look unstoppable for 3 games in a row.
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Nope.
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05-25-2015, 10:37 AM
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Had an idea!
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Interesting part here is that Getzlaf/Perry are looked at as the most dominant duo in the league, etc, etc....and yet they haven't had very much success outside of the regular season the last 5 years.
The Hawks have been VERY successful for 5 years.
So if you want to make decisions based on actual playoff performance, nobody would take Getzlaf/Perry over Toews/Kane.
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05-25-2015, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Azure
Getzlaf is a great player, but looking unstoppable for a few games doesn't mean he finally deciding to be the best player on the ice.
Mason Raymond can look unstoppable for 3 games in a row.
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The difference is Getzlaf is actually recognized as an elite player. Raymond is not.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Interesting part here is that Getzlaf/Perry are looked at as the most dominant duo in the league, etc, etc....and yet they haven't had very much success outside of the regular season the last 5 years.
The Hawks have been VERY successful for 5 years.
So if you want to make decisions based on actual playoff performance, nobody would take Getzlaf/Perry over Toews/Kane.
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There are more than two players on a team.
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05-25-2015, 10:40 AM
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GOAT!
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The thing that separates Kane from a lot of other players in the league is his killer instinct. The guy doesn't just want to win, he wants to be the guy that actually beats you.
Getzlaf, Perry and Toews all have the skill to beat you, but Kane salivates at the thought of being the one holding the gun, and that scares the daylights out me when he's on the ice in OT.
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05-25-2015, 10:42 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
Getzlaf is a great player, but looking unstoppable for a few games doesn't mean he finally deciding to be the best player on the ice.
Mason Raymond can look unstoppable for 3 games in a row.
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I have watched Ryan Getzlaf for a number of years. I've seen him play, junior and pro... Mason Raymond, you're no Ryan Getzlaf. 
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05-25-2015, 10:44 AM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by heep223
Nope.
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Sure he can. In fact he is among many players who can get hot for 2-3 games and score 6 goals.
The point is that if you want to pick two players to build your team, you have to look at the overall success of those two players.
Toews/Kane and simply blowing away Getzlaf/Perry in every category that counts the last 5 years.
Look at the Ducks record since 2007 when they last won the cup.
7 years, 2 playoff misses, 3 losses in the 1st round, 2 losses in the 2nd round.
Hawks.
Last 7 years. 1 playoff miss, 2 cups, 2 losses in 3rd round, 2 losses in 1st round.
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05-25-2015, 10:54 AM
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by Azure
Sure he can. In fact he is among many players who can get hot for 2-3 games and score 6 goals.
The point is that if you want to pick two players to build your team, you have to look at the overall success of those two players.
Toews/Kane and simply blowing away Getzlaf/Perry in every category that counts the last 5 years.
Look at the Ducks record since 2007 when they last won the cup.
7 years, 2 playoff misses, 3 losses in the 1st round, 2 losses in the 2nd round.
Hawks.
Last 7 years. 1 playoff miss, 2 cups, 2 losses in 3rd round, 2 losses in 1st round.
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I agree with everything you're saying except that Mason Raymond (ie. any player) can be dominant. Sure he could score a bunch of goals and get hot but very few players in the league can dominate play like Perry and Getzlaf, when they're hot, in their prime.
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05-25-2015, 10:55 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
Sure he can. In fact he is among many players who can get hot for 2-3 games and score 6 goals.
The point is that if you want to pick two players to build your team, you have to look at the overall success of those two players.
Toews/Kane and simply blowing away Getzlaf/Perry in every category that counts the last 5 years.
Look at the Ducks record since 2007 when they last won the cup.
7 years, 2 playoff misses, 3 losses in the 1st round, 2 losses in the 2nd round.
Hawks.
Last 7 years. 1 playoff miss, 2 cups, 2 losses in 3rd round, 2 losses in 1st round.
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As other have mentioned it's a team game. Did you expect the Ducks to win last year when there was a 40 point drop-off between Getzlaf and Perry and the rest of the team? With a top D pairing that were 21 and 19 years old? With Hiller as the starting goalie heading into the POs?
What are the "categories" you are relying upon? Are they all team based?
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