Canadian Muslim group raided, funneled money to Hamas

[Hemi-Cuda]

So much for the Islamic problem being a small number of extremists

www.torontosun.com/2015/01/28/canadian-muslim-group-funnelled-300k-to-hamas-linked-charity-documents

MONTREAL — One of the country's largest Muslim organizations gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to a Hamas-linked charity, and vocally supported an Egyptian Islamist group, QMI Agency has learned.

The Muslim Association of Canada (MAC), based in the Toronto suburb of Mississauga, Ont., owns or operates at least 20 Islamic schools and 15 mosques in Ontario, Alberta and Quebec.

[Erick Estrada]

The hate runs deep in that culture.

[llwhiteoutll]

Just so people reading aren't misled by the title, the Muslim Association of Canada wasn't raided. The did provide ~$300k to IRFAN Canada from 2001-2010, before IRFAN's charitable status was revoked and before IRFAN was declared a terrorist group in mid 2014.

[Ducay]

Just because IRFAN wasn't labelled a terrorist group when it happened, doesn't mean it wasn't worthy of that status before; its not like on the day after the raid IRFAN did something to magically deserve that status.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll

Just so people reading aren't misled by the title, the Muslim Association of Canada wasn't raided. The did provide ~$300k to IRFAN Canada from 2001-2010, before IRFAN's charitable status was revoked and before IRFAN was declared a terrorist group in mid 2014.

They did, however it sounds like this triggered the raid

However, the 113-page RCMP warrant shows the Mississauga group was under police surveillance for alleged terrorist financing as recently as last year. The warrant mentions an alleged transaction that took place at Al-Radwah Mosque, a MAC facility in north-end Montreal.
"(REDACTED) was observed on March 6, 2014, exiting the MAC location in Montreal carrying an 8 1/2 by 14-inch yellow envelope in his hand," the warrant reads. "It is possible that (REDACTED) is still accepting donations on behalf of IRFAN from the MAC in Montreal."

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The hate runs deep in that culture.

Apparently it does in your household too.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Apparently it does in your household too.

Someone saying that the most violent religion in the world has a problem with deep rooted hate in their midst, means their household is full of hate too?

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by polak

Someone saying that the most violent religion in the world has a problem with deep rooted hate in their midst, means their household is full of hate too?

Except that's not what he said.

Saying that Islam is a violent "culture" is no more accurate than saying all Poles are simpletons.

One hundred years ago Europe may well have been the most violent area in the world. The reasons behind the violence (context) matters.

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Apparently it does in your household too.

[Looch City]

Talk about sensational journalism..

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Apparently it does in your household too.

LOL that's such a terrible post. Even if I was a hateful person (which I'm not) you are condemning my family by association which is exactly what I expect you think I'm doing in condemning a group because of a only a percentage of their population.

[CaptainYooh]

I agree with the context of hatred running within the culture rather than religion. In fact, Muslim religious leaders in Canada are calling for peaceful solutions, at least publicly they do (I am not sure what they are calling for during religious services and, more importantly, during private gatherings). It is the Muslim culture worldwide that is getting increasingly antagonized and hateful towards the Western world and, generally, towards anything not Muslim. Heck, they are even turning on their own, if their own is not Muslim enough!

The impact of the ancient Persian/Egyptian/Arabic culture and the early Muslim culture on the world culture has been generally significant and important (medicine, literature, philosophy, trade etc.). But can anyone today make a convincing statement that the impact of modern Muslim culture on the world culture has been mostly positive? I certainly cannot.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

So much for the Islamic problem being a small number of extremists

www.torontosun.com/2015/01/28/canadian-muslim-group-funnelled-300k-to-hamas-linked-charity-documents

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The hate runs deep in that culture.

Originally Posted by polak

Someone saying that the most violent religion in the world has a problem with deep rooted hate in their midst, means their household is full of hate too?

Seriously Polak?

When you reply to a post that says what the OP said with a statement about hate running deep, it's pretty clear that these guys are painting a picture of Muslims as hateful and violent with a pretty broad brush.

I was using EE's words back at him to point out that what he and HC are saying is pretty bloody racist.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

LOL that's such a terrible post. Even if I was a hateful person (which I'm not) you are condemning my family by association which is exactly what I expect you think I'm doing in condemning a group because of a only a percentage of their population.

Is that really what you think I'm saying, and how you want to defend yourself?

You made a prety racist generalization, and when you get called out on it all you can say is

"Hey look, if I ignore the context of his post, this guy seems to be implying that everyone in my family is racist. Therefore his actual point, that I made a really racist comment, is completely invalid. Woo Hoo, I in the internet!"

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

...is pretty bloody racist.

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

...You made a prety racist generalization...

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Oops, I was slightly semantically incorrect. Guess that means my whole point is completely invalid.

Religionist, culturist, being a jackass and categorizing a huge group of people who share one common cultural feature as violent because a very small minority of them are violent.

Pick whichever one you like.

[nik-]

pick one that's not racism.

[CaptainYooh]

As my signature says, I am not a huge fan of generalizations, especially, overwhelmingly stupid generalizations. However; statistics speak quite convincingly against your assumption of the "small minority" within the world Muslim population.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

As my signature says, I am not a huge fan of generalizations, especially, overwhelmingly stupid generalizations. However; statistics speak quite convincingly against your assumption of the "small minority" within the world Muslim population.

Really?
Care to show me these statistics?

There are 1.6 BILLION muslims in the world.

Either you don't know what minority means, or we are pretty screwed, cause apparenlty there are several hundred million people who want to kill all of us infedels.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Really?
Care to show me these statistics?

There are 1.6 BILLION muslims in the world.

Either you don't know what minority means, or we are pretty screwed, cause apparenlty there are several hundred million people who want to kill all of us infedels.

Care to provide your definition of the "small minority"? Out of 1.6B, how many Muslims sharing, supporting and justifying the extreme views would constitute "only a small minority" in your opinion and, more importantly, what is the threshold at which this number becomes significant and dangerous?