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Old 07-01-2016, 03:41 PM   #41
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Good contract. Still rather have Brouwer.

Size - Brouwer
Goal Scoring - Brouwer
Grit - Brouwer
Board Play - Brouwer
Defence - Brouwer

Speed - Boedker

I really don't see how Boedker would help fill our weaknesses. Brouwer was exactly what we were missing.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:50 PM   #42
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Brouwer and Boedker are different players.

Different.

They play different games. They have different abilities, they contribute different things.

If you want offence and speed at the expense of defence, get Boedker.

If you want defence and a hard edge at the expense of offence, get Brouwer.

These players are worth within 500k of each other (you be the judge if their salaries should be swapped), but will simply help you in different ways.

This isn't "a dynamic winger and a 3rd liner!" That's nonsense. They are both equally fitted to play on the exact same line regardless of the team they're on. We needed Brouwer far more than we needed Boedker. No question.

Regardless. Calgary isn't SJ. They weren't getting Boedker for $4 million.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:51 PM   #43
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And Devi: this is a league based off speed and skill. We're moving away from truculence. Boedker would save money, while playing more of a quick style. He would compliment Johnny and Mono much better, IMO.
Brouwer doesn't just give you "truculence" though ... he has decent speed and skill too. Boedker is a faster and better skater for sure, but again, he doesn't give you much else. People on here hated Colborne because he didn't use his size to play a more physical game ... well, if that irks you, then you'll loooooove Boedker. And the "save money" argument ... oh well, only 500k. Nothing to lose sleep over. Then you add the stuff that Brouwer brings (RH shot, grit, board work, goal scoring) and it's a pretty easy decision.

and again, I actually kinda like Boedker. Just not a fit on this Flames team at all right now.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:54 PM   #44
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Boedker brings more offence than Brouwer??
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:59 PM   #45
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It's also worth noting:
Of the guys who have the potential to make the team and play top 6 out of camp (Tkachuk, Shinkaruk, or MAYBE Poirier) they're all going to have a lot more hope in replacing what Boedker would've brought than what Brouwer is going to bring.
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Old 07-01-2016, 04:04 PM   #46
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Still a better player than Brouwer. Really, if I wanted a 30-point big right winger, I'd have signed David Jones.


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Old 07-01-2016, 04:13 PM   #47
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Not a very good contract. Clearly a reactionary move to getting skated out of the rink by the Penguins.


The Schlemko signing was much better.
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Old 07-01-2016, 04:15 PM   #48
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Brad gave out a bad contact to Troy. Boedker is worth significantly more than Brouwer, IMO.

I'd love to be wrong, though.
Please explain how Boedker is worth significantly more than Brouwer?

Every single team in the NHL had the opportunity to make an offer to either player.

Brouwer got more money over the same term because Calgary Flames management and pro scouting staff valued Brouwer as a better fit.

Not real complicated.
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Brad gave out a bad contact to Troy. Boedker is worth significantly more than Brouwer, IMO.

I'd love to be wrong, though.
You are, so very, very, very, wrong. You'd better get used to loving it.

Boedker will be lucky to be in the league by the end of his contract.
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I am not a fan of the Brouwer contract, but this makes it better. Doug Wilson is Finals drunk.
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good god...there's people that actually think Boedeker is a better signing than Brouwer?!

there's a reason SJ signed him for 4 million...because no one offered more...

generally, that's what happens with guys that price themselves out of the market... they don't get signed until the end of the day rather than the start and the ill informed think that teams "whiffed" on him.
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good god...there's people that actually think Boedeker is a better signing than Brouwer?!

there's a reason SJ signed him for 4 million...because no one offered more...

generally, that's what happens with guys that price themselves out of the market... they don't get signed until the end of the day rather than the start and the ill informed think that teams "whiffed" on him.
Yeah I am pretty sure a good portion of people don't understand free agency. If you want to get a certain player you have to pay a bit of a premium. If you want to get a steal you have to wait kinda like shopping at Winners and getting great deals on stuff that everyone else has passed on.
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Brouwer vs Boedker is pointless. Obviously one of the things Tre wanted was a right handed shot.

Same goes for Colborne vs Brouwer.
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Brouwer vs Boedker is pointless. Obviously one of the things Tre wanted was a right handed shot.

Same goes for Colborne vs Brouwer.

Can you provide a HERO chart indicating which debate is more pointless?
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:45 PM   #55
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Still a better player than Brouwer. Really, if I wanted a 30-point big right winger, I'd have signed David Jones.
No, Brouwer is not like Jones. Brouwer has a few more gears, more offence and more snarl than Jones. I get Jones was your old avatar but come on...
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Can you provide a HERO chart indicating which debate is more pointless?
That would be a ZERO chart.
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