01-11-2018, 10:19 AM
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#1
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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CWHL welcoming a trangender player
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01-11-2018, 10:21 AM
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#2
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Neat.
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01-11-2018, 10:35 AM
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#3
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Resurrection
Discuss.
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hopefully sometime soon, the day will come when we don't have to.
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01-11-2018, 10:38 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I'm curious how different organizations will manage this going forward. I read an article not too long ago about an FTM trans person that was competing in female athletics and wanted to transition to male, take hormones and such, yet still compete against women who were not. The school said no and the person was complaining it was unfair.
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01-11-2018, 10:55 AM
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#5
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Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack
hopefully sometime soon, the day will come when we don't have to.
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Well seems like a fair thing to discuss whether somebody who biologically a male or someone who is taking hormones should be competing against biological females.
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01-11-2018, 11:00 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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I don't agree with it. Typically men have "man strength" and that right there is an advantage over most women. If it's a competitive league I don't think it should be allowed.
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01-11-2018, 11:05 AM
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Yeah I'm perfectly fine with it socially but competition wise?
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01-11-2018, 11:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Yeah I'm perfectly fine with it socially but competition wise?
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Lets see if there is a significant competitive advantage. I know a number of female hockey players that can skate circles around male hockey players.
If she ends up running the table and cleaning up pts wise, then yeah maybe then.
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01-11-2018, 11:26 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Lets see if there is a significant competitive advantage. I know a number of female hockey players that can skate circles around male hockey players.
If she ends up running the table and cleaning up pts wise, then yeah maybe then.
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Sure if you are looking at it in only this case. Now that the league has had one transgender female it may get more. Let's say 10 years from now 5 of the top 10
Scorers are transgender. It's just not really fair to the biological females in my opinion.
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01-11-2018, 11:29 AM
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#10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahan For Mayor
Sure if you are looking at it in only this case. Now that the league has had one transgender female it may get more. Let's say 10 years from now 5 of the top 10
Scorers are transgender. It's just not really fair to the biological females in my opinion.
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Good thing those women have got a man with no vested interest in their league to tell them what's best for them!
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01-11-2018, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
Good thing those women have got a man with no vested interest in their league to tell them what's best for them!
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You know what the players of the league think of this ? You assume all of them are in favour ? I doubt it.
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01-11-2018, 11:36 AM
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#12
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Lifetime Suspension
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Interesting how to manage this in a competitive context. I really have no idea what the answer is. I think even if you let them compete, regardless of the result, there will always be questions just how much male birth or male hormones affected the outcome.
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01-11-2018, 11:36 AM
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#13
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Lets see if there is a significant competitive advantage. I know a number of female hockey players that can skate circles around male hockey players.
If she ends up running the table and cleaning up pts wise, then yeah maybe then.
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Maybe in the beer leagues, I get walked around by female players all the time in my league lol. You don't know one female hockey player that can compete with the best male hockey players though.
As a one off in a team sport its a good story...
Open up say track and field and you have only biological males in the Olympics
Its not discriminatory its reality
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01-11-2018, 11:37 AM
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I think it is ridiculous. Everybody nowadays wants to have their cake and eat it too. It is sick how society and mainstream media are enabling a mental disorder called gender dysphoria. I don't give a flying #### if this is not PC enough. I believe in science not feelings.
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01-11-2018, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Monahan For Mayor
You know what the players of the league think of this ? You assume all of them are in favour ? I doubt it.
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I don't think he has to know what the female players or fans think in order to realize you definitely don't.
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01-11-2018, 11:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
Good thing those women have got a man with no vested interest in their league to tell them what's best for them!
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totally missing the point
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01-11-2018, 11:41 AM
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This is wrong. A biological male competing in a female league. It’s not progressive, it’s scientific ignorance.
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01-11-2018, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Monahan For Mayor
You know what the players of the league think of this ? You assume all of them are in favour ? I doubt it.
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Even if they are against it I doubt anyone will speak up. Everyone will come out of the woodwork to call them transphobic bigoted or what have you. This is our new virtue signaling trial by social media society. Free speech is a thing of that past. How do you think people would feel who bust their asses their whole life only to have someone come in and dominate because they were born faster and stronger. Anyone who argues that men and women are physically different. It is the RULE not the Exception. All in the name of social "Justice". Gimme a break.
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01-11-2018, 11:41 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sempuki
I don't think he has to know what the female players or fans think in order to realize you definitely don't.
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Okay ? I'm looking at things In a competitive aspect in regards to a competitive league. Somehow I am viewing things the wrong way ? Please do elaborate.
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01-11-2018, 11:41 AM
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#20
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Insane_Flame
I think it is ridiculous. Everybody nowadays wants to have their cake and eat it too. It is sick how society and mainstream media are enabling a mental disorder called gender dysphoria. I don't give a flying #### if this is not PC enough. I believe in science not feelings.
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Yeah it sure sucks that medicine has advanced enough that these people suffering from gender dysphoria can get treatment in the form of surgery and hormone therapy.
What about this particular mental health disorder is so "sick" to you? Their treatment and life choices affect you in no way whatsoever. Live and let live.
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