Tij Iginla ranked No. 10 overall by Bob McKenzie for 2024 NHL Draft

[traptor]

Arizona might be loose with what they pay to move up given all their seconds and thirds. I'd be trying to deal with them

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

Four goals, 11 points in 19 games I wouldn't call that overly great production. By that season when he finally got some NHL games (2000-01), Samsonov already had 218 career points and three 20+ goal seasons (29 goals and 75 points in 00-01).

Would Tkaczuk have had a better career without the concussion? Certainly. Would he have come close to Samsonov's career? I think doubtful.

It's pointless to debate because we will never know but Tkaczuk was more bad luck than bad pick. Here's a good article detailing how he was trending and what happened after he got that first concussion.

https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-...eer-cut-short/

[Naitix]

There really aren't many good centers in this draft, outside of Celebrini, Demidov and Lindstrom. I do not see Catton being a for sure Center in the NHL, he could easily be a winger. So if Lindstrom is gone when Flames pick, it will most likely come down to Iginla vs Catton vs Parekh vs Buium, and I can see an argument for picking Iginla over those guys

[Jiri Hrdina]

Even Demidov is more of a winger isn't he?

[Naitix]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Even Demidov is more of a winger isn't he?

Actually ya I think he is more of a winger, either way I would take him over anyone not named Celebrini (baring interview results)

[Camronius]

Fall all the way for tee eye jay!

[serratedmuffin]

I agree there is some uncertainty with the centers in the draft. Lindstrom may have back/injury issues, Catton I feel will end up on the wing, Helenius has high IQ but no standout physical trait (7th on his team in scoring). Hage has 46 points in the last 26 games but doesn't have a long history of dominating.

I still like Hage with the Flames pick, but there are some intriguing D that may be the better option. I don't see Iginla being available by pick 8. I think he ends up in the top 5.

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by serratedmuffin

Catton I feel will end up on the wing

Why? Because he's "small"? He's bigger than Crosby was at the same age. And a lot of other centers. Way more than you probably think.

[serratedmuffin]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Why? Because he's "small"? He's bigger than Crosby was at the same age. And a lot of other centers. Way more than you probably think.

Because a lot of people who are smarter than me, who focus on prospects, think that's a possibility. If he's available, I hope they take him and I hope he stays a center. It's not like I'm hoping he's going to be a winger.

[HighLifeMan]

I like Helenius a lot more than most here. I think people get too carried away at times with physical traits, but at the end of the day that's not what you need to succeed in the NHL. The calling cards of this kid are his ability to process the game across all three zones, and his compete level+motor. I certainly see a top six center in the making.

[NewFan]

Just draft best D or C prospect in our turn.
Let other team team draft Tij. And I hope he will ask trade to Calgary when his entry level agreement ends. At that time we should be a good young team which ready have multiple years of run for the cup.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Naitix

Actually ya I think he is more of a winger, either way I would take him over anyone not named Celebrini (baring interview results)

Flames already have a proven Russian winger named Kuzmenko and he's a right shot. It's OK to draft smaller guys in the later rounds. In the upper first round picks, I'm surprised to see Demidov in the 2nd position ahead of Lindstrom or even before Catton, TBH.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

One good example:

Daniel Tkaczuk, C - 6th overall
Paul Mara, D - 7th overall
Sergei Samsonov, LW - 8th overall

2019
Alex Turcotte (C) - #5 OA
Moritz Seider (D) - #6 OA

2018
Barrett Hayton (C) - #5 OA
Quinn Hughes (D) - #7 OA

2017
Pretty underwhelming draft in general outside of the top 5. Some hits in there, but mostly misses.

2016
Jost (C) - #10 OA
Brown (C) - #11 OA
McLeaod (C) - #12 OA
McAvoy (D) - #14 OA
Chychrun (D) - #16 OA

2015
Zacha (C) - # 6 OA
Werenski (D) - #8 OA
Meier (F) - #9 OA
Rantanen (F) - #10 OA

Zacha is actually a fine player, but just not the impact player that the non-centers picked after him are.


OK, I'm bored now. It seems like a lot of teams waste picks or settle for a lesser player in order to try an chase centers at the draft, especially outside of the top 5.

If the Flames already had the other blue chip pieces in place, I would get why people would want to take the gamble, but as of right now, a lot of people are anticipating a problem that doesn't exist yet. There is no point in worrying about potential "missing pieces" when the puzzle is just starting.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It's pointless to debate because we will never know but Tkaczuk was more bad luck than bad pick. Here's a good article detailing how he was trending and what happened after he got that first concussion.

https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-...eer-cut-short/

Noticed this error in that article:

he may have established an NHL career. Even his first interactions with the Flames were strained; head coach Brent Sutter commented that Tkaczuk didn’t smile very much, implying that he needed to change his personality to fit with the team. But after suffering two concussions, he was left to fend for himself.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Noticed this error in that article:

I saw that, too. I'm not sure who they were talking about there. Greg Gilbert maybe? Or Brian Sutter?

[ComixZone]

One thing is for certain, at 8th overall there’s no sure-thing home run player. There’s talented players with question marks around how their games will translate. I think that’s true for most of this class outside of Celebrini.

[cannon7]

Catton's highlights remind me of Konecny.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

I saw that, too. I'm not sure who they were talking about there. Greg Gilbert maybe? Or Brian Sutter?

Assume Brian Sutter. Not sure there was a prospect Brian didn't complain about.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Assume Brian Sutter. Not sure there was a prospect Brian didn't complain about.

Also forgot that between the two there was Don Hay for 60 games or so. Makes you really appreciate 2004 and the memories going on in that thread.

Also, regarding Tij how funny would it be if he got drafted 9th overall by Seattle.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I'd be shocked if Catton isn't an NHLer. I'd like to hear some reasoning for this thought.

Highest NHLe of CHL prospects and slippery like Gaudreau but bigger than Gaudreau. He doesn't have a notable weakness outside of being slightly undersized.