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Old 05-13-2015, 02:28 PM   #281
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Can we also deal with this "being triggered" part? Is this just another word for "upset"?
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Old 05-13-2015, 02:42 PM   #282
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Can we also deal with this "being triggered" part? Is this just another word for "upset"?
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Old 05-13-2015, 02:42 PM   #283
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Can we also deal with this "being triggered" part? Is this just another word for "upset"?
Ehhh...it's not quite that simple, but the word has been unfortunately appropriated by people who don't actually understand what it is. It's pretty sad because there are people who are legitimately triggered by things and it can cause a variety of problems, like full-blown panic attacks for instance. In people with PTSD the body actually physically responds to triggers.
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Ehhh...it's not quite that simple, but the word has been unfortunately appropriated by people who don't actually understand what it is. It's pretty sad because there are people who are legitimately triggered by things and it can cause a variety of problems, like full-blown panic attacks for instance. In people with PTSD the body actually physically responds to triggers.
Okay, well in that case it is either being used overbroadly or it's founded on a misunderstanding of neuroscience... the physical manifestations of psychological trauma are fundamentally different from problems with brain chemistry associated with things like bipolar disorder and anxiety disorders that are the product of genetics...

In other words, it doesn't make any sense to say "someone started talking about Ovid and suddenly my brain lost the ability to properly release serotonin, leading to an attack".

It's really good that mental health is becoming less stigmatized but the actual understanding of these conditions hasn't followed suit. Now people feel more comfortable talking about it, but it's producing misinformation and misunderstandings. For example, someone who has a condition that produces anxiety attacks may be "triggered" in that way, but it's not substance-based usually and makes little sense. Someone honking a horn at you while driving is more what we're talking about here.
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:07 PM   #286
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Okay, well in that case it is either being used overbroadly or it's founded on a misunderstanding of neuroscience... the physical manifestations of psychological trauma are fundamentally different from problems with brain chemistry associated with things like bipolar disorder and anxiety disorders that are the product of genetics...

In other words, it doesn't make any sense to say "someone started talking about Ovid and suddenly my brain lost the ability to properly release serotonin, leading to an attack".

It's really good that mental health is becoming less stigmatized but the actual understanding of these conditions hasn't followed suit. Now people feel more comfortable talking about it, but it's producing misinformation and misunderstandings.
Oh, I completely agree. It's more that triggers can induce panic, or cause you to go into fight or flight mode, but the way in which many progressives use the word really trivializes how awful the whole experience is.

The other weird thing is, if you talk to people who actually suffer from PTSD or anxiety disorders, triggers are usually pretty benign things and you just kind of have to learn to live with them. For instance, with me, the sound of a key turning in a door lock is a trigger. Doesn't matter where I am, if I hear that sound, my heart immediately starts to pound and my mind starts racing. That said, it's pretty easy to see how that could happen to victims of assault if they were listening to graphic descriptions of other assaults. I'm just not sure why you'd put yourself in that position.
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Okay, well in that case it is either being used overbroadly or it's founded on a misunderstanding of neuroscience.
Both, as it happens.
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For instance, with me, the sound of a key turning in a door lock is a trigger. Doesn't matter where I am, if I hear that sound, my heart immediately starts to pound and my mind starts racing.
Do you know why?
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Ehhh...it's not quite that simple, but the word has been unfortunately appropriated by people who don't actually understand what it is. It's pretty sad because there are people who are legitimately triggered by things and it can cause a variety of problems, like full-blown panic attacks for instance. In people with PTSD the body actually physically responds to triggers.
So this kind of thing is serious. It has basically turned into "being upset." For example, putting trigger warnings on various pieces of Western literature and philosophy because the contents may be offensive or trigger certain groups of people.
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So this kind of thing is serious. It has basically turned into "being upset." For example, putting trigger warnings on various pieces of Western literature and philosophy because the contents may be offensive or trigger certain groups of people.
Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Too many well-meaning (or maybe not) have adopted it and are applying it in situations that trivialize a very serious problem.
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Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Too many well-meaning (or maybe not) have adopted it and are applying it in situations that trivialize a very serious problem.
In grad school, we had students complain about Aristotle's Politics because it discussed women as subservient to men, and said that slavery was natural.
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I don't know why I venture into threads like the Patrick Kane one in the FOI forum. Multiple people in there posting things that make me:

- shake my head
- vomit in my mouth a little
- lose faith in humanity
- all of the above
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Old 08-06-2015, 06:28 PM   #298
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It is easier to put on a sweater then take your shirt off?
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It is easier to put on a sweater then take your shirt off?
Heh, yep. There are a ton of layers they can put on without a problem. There's only so many that can be taken off before it starts getting awkward and the cops are called.
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It's also much easier to keep working while cold than hot. Our office often hits 28°C (yay Strategic Property Management!) And I just end up staring at the monitor, trying to figure out what I should be doing... My brain just doesn't work at those temps. When it hits 17°C I put a sweater on and drink tea and get lots done.
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