Do we bring back Tre ?

[MelBridgeman]

The better team always wins

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Bob McKenzie commenting on Twitter: "The longer we go without an announcement, the more uncertain I'm feeling."

Before people start panicking 960 interviewed Gulutzan yesterday afternoon and he mentioned it's been an extremely busy week and he's been doing interviews right up until yesterday. I think the Flames are getting a lot of the player and coach stuff wrapped up as apparently there's a lot of expiring contracts within the organization so plenty of evaluations to be done. It's possible it may take a few weeks before Brad, King, Burke, and the owners all sit down together and attempt to put some pens to paper.

[Robbob]

You can add the Heat being in the playoffs. If there was a lull and Treliving wasn't doing anything than I would be more worried. By the sounds of it there is a ton of work still going on behind the scenes. Wouldn't surprise me if Treliving pushed his contract negotiations out so it wouldn't interfere with everything he is doing now.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Before people start panicking 960 interviewed Gulutzan yesterday afternoon and he mentioned it's been an extremely busy week and he's been doing interviews right up until yesterday. I think the Flames are getting a lot of the player and coach stuff wrapped up as apparently there's a lot of expiring contracts within the organization so plenty of evaluations to be done. It's possible it may take a few weeks before Brad, King, Burke, and the owners all sit down together and attempt to put some pens to paper.

Wouldn't re-signing the GM have a higher priority than exit interviews and various other end of season admin? At least I should hope it would, what with the drafts coming up.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Wouldn't re-signing the GM have a higher priority than exit interviews and various other end of season admin? At least I should hope it would, what with the drafts coming up.

Not necessarily.

if both sides want to sign and they have an idea what market rate is, the contract is something of a formality.

There may well be more time pressing issues facing the franchise right now.

I have very little concern that it won't get done. it will and it will be for fair market value, or more.

[Tinordi]

For every day that you don't reach an agreement is an opportunity for another agreement to be reached.

Frankly, it's utterly Mickey Mouse how this process has unrolled. Treliving should have been extended 12 months ago, not with the clock striking midnight.

We like to blame Feaster for the organization's questionable reputation but the rot clearly runs deeper.

This is not how a well run organization operates.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Wouldn't re-signing the GM have a higher priority than exit interviews and various other end of season admin? At least I should hope it would, what with the drafts coming up.

Well, no.

Exit interviews and season end jobs have to happen right away, and he is still under contract for a month or 2. Priority would be the closer deadline, which happens to be exit interviews and such.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

For every day that you don't reach an agreement is an opportunity for another agreement to be reached.

Frankly, it's utterly Mickey Mouse how this process has unrolled. Treliving should have been extended 12 months ago, not with the clock striking midnight.

We like to blame Feaster for the organization's questionable reputation but the rot clearly runs deeper.

This is not how a well run organization operates.

You're just fear mongering. As someone viewing from the outside you don't have all the information on the topic, for all you know both sides could be quite comfortable getting the end of season tasks out of the way before the negotiating happens.

Back away from the ledge, take a couple breaths.

[Tinordi]

The fact that we have any information at all is a bad sign. GM contracts are typically not litigated in the public sphere, ask yourself how and why this would have leaked? Just very strange and concerning.

[FlamesAddiction]

There is the possibility that Treliving doesn't even want to be a GM anymore. He is a guy that once managed a whole league and he probably doesn't need the money. He could have his eye on other positions in or even outside of hockey.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

The fact that we have any information at all is a bad sign. GM contracts are typically not litigated in the public sphere, ask yourself how and why this would have leaked? Just very strange and concerning.

I'm not sure what you are talking about? There has been information from Burke on the negotiation process, Treliving has commented about it and directly said he wants to be here. Some media has speculated he isn't coming back, others have said he is coming back as long as the deal is fair (duh).

This is not concerning at all, the fact that he is still doing day to day operation is actually good. If ownership didn't want him running the show they would have canned him by now, they wouldn't let him run out his contract in a couple months.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Wouldn't re-signing the GM have a higher priority than exit interviews and various other end of season admin? At least I should hope it would, what with the drafts coming up.

Nope. Player exit interviews are always carried out first as they are heading home. Brad Treliving is still under contract as the GM of the Calgary Flames and it's business as usual until told otherwise. Sure the longer it goes the more it makes for interesting media articles and speculation but the season has only been over for a week. Is it Mickey Mouse the way the Flames are handling it? Yeah probably but we don't know what's been discussed behind closed doors and maybe Treliving has been assured it will be taken care of and he's fine with that.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

There is the possibility that Treliving doesn't even want to be a GM anymore. He is a guy that once managed a whole league and he probably doesn't need the money. He could have his eye on other positions in or even outside of hockey.

A guy was assistant GM of an NHL team/GM of the AHL team for 11 years, then GM of an NHL team for 3 years, and now he decides he is done with it? Nah.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

A guy was assistant GM of an NHL team/GM of the AHL team for 11 years, then GM of an NHL team for 3 years, and now he decides he is done with it? Nah.

What that shows is consistent career progression. Being an NHL GM might not be his end game. He is a pretty ambitious guy.

I mean, probably not. Just something to consider. It wouldn't be the first time that a career GM made the leap to the league front office.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

For every day that you don't reach an agreement is an opportunity for another agreement to be reached.

What? As far as we know, he's under contract until the end of June. As long as he's under contract, he can't negotiate with any other team without the Flames granting permission.

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Frankly, it's utterly Mickey Mouse how this process has unrolled. Treliving should have been extended 12 months ago, not with the clock striking midnight.

We like to blame Feaster for the organization's questionable reputation but the rot clearly runs deeper.

This is not how a well run organization operates.

Unless you're in the room, you have no idea how this process has unrolled. All along, everyone involved in the process has said they're not worried about getting a deal done. It's only the people who are outside the process who have made this an issue. If Friedman hadn't said anything, no one would even know about it.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

For every day that you don't reach an agreement is an opportunity for another agreement to be reached.

Frankly, it's utterly Mickey Mouse how this process has unrolled. Treliving should have been extended 12 months ago, not with the clock striking midnight.

We like to blame Feaster for the organization's questionable reputation but the rot clearly runs deeper.

This is not how a well run organization operates.

What's mickey mouse is another one of your sanctimonious drive by attacks. Please enlighten us on the inner details that you have which the rest of us do not.

Actually, don't bother.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

This is not concerning at all, the fact that he is still doing day to day operation is actually good. If ownership didn't want him running the show they would have canned him by now, they wouldn't let him run out his contract in a couple months.

What's concerning is that in this respect the Flames operate differently from every other franchise in the NHL. Elite organisations with a history of sustained success are justified in acting differently from everybody else. For a sports franchise with the uninspiring history of the Flames, we're smarter than everyone else is not a good look.

This is further evidence of a meddling, big-dog owner who likes to do things his way. That's gotta be concerning for any fan.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

There is the possibility that Treliving doesn't even want to be a GM anymore. He is a guy that once managed a whole league and he probably doesn't need the money. He could have his eye on other positions in or even outside of hockey.

There's ZERO evidence to suggest this, but please, continue with the speculation.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

There is the possibility that Treliving doesn't even want to be a GM anymore. He is a guy that once managed a whole league and he probably doesn't need the money. He could have his eye on other positions in or even outside of hockey.

Oh, for god's sake stop it. It has already been reported that Treliving's first preference is to remain with the Calgary Flames:

Originally Posted by Textcritic

...Pay attention:
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/search....archid=8733352\

It would seem that Treliving's top priority is to remain in Calgary.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

What's concerning is that in this respect the Flames operate differently from every other franchise in the NHL. Elite organisations with a history of sustained success are justified in acting differently from everybody else. For a sports franchise with the uninspiring history of the Flames, we're smarter than everyone else is not a good look...

This is such a stupid argument: Some franchises can exercise a novel or peculiar management philosophy because they have been successful, but others cannot act independently because the have no proven track record.

No. I am not adjudicating on the wisdom of the Flames' organizational approach here, but am quite certain that it is not stupid by fiat because no "elite" franchises employ the same tactics. Once Treliving is extended, then it really doesn't matter.