Conspiracy against the Flames? Or are the fans crazy?

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Clearly this is on Bettman. He got hardcore made to look like a poopstain by Nenshi, and the Flames haven't really done much about getting a new arena (as far as he was concerned). He clearly put out a directive that the Flames are not to win any post season games until the city does what he wants.

I'm mostly joking, but it would not surprise me to learn there was a nugget of truth in my bullspit there.

[EVERLAST]

Conspiracy? No

But having controversial this and that on every other play in all 3 games.

What's that? I guess when your team can't win based on several other factors such as face offs, power plays, fully played games .

We had a lead .....were scored on late in the 2nd in a must win game and played well in the first 10 minutes of the 3rd with a 2 goal lead and then started floating just before the predictable outcome.

We have to be better at playing with or without a Lead.

We cannot get stuck blaming refs and the nhl.

When you get stuck in that mentality and half your roster gets demoralized and quits playing 100% the coach has the job to either motivate or bench guys that aren't committed to win regardless.

Anyway , tough lesson to learn. Learn it move on and don't get stuck in the past.

Be the change .....be better next time.

[Alberta_Beef]

Anyone that actually believes there is a conspiracy is an idiot, maybe last season, post-incident there was some bias. But this season the difference in PIMs can be attributed to undisciplined play of the team, especially Tkachuk, Bennett and Hamilton.

[Huntingwhale]

To all the outside members/guests reading this, I apologise on behalf of those of us who are smart enough to realise that outside of a few weirdos, there is NO conspiracy against the Flames or any other NHL team.

Please do not make fun of us.

[bob-loblaw]

In last nights high stick goal, they want only video evidence but they can't use video plus logic at the same time.

Did the Refs the league determine that it went off the stick? Yes. Did the league too? Yes, as far I know.

So, was the stick too high? Every video from every angle shows his arms extended either level or higher than his shoulders. On a six-foot high person his shoulders would be at least five feet from the ground. Is there any evidence of the stick pointing downwards? No, not unless his stick was broken or he has a 40 degree bend in it. Logically, the puck would be deflected at least from a height of least five feet. No goal then.

I thought they had a partnership with GoPro? Let's put eight cameras behind the glass four feet off the ground around each zone. Surely through the cameras they can determine if something was four feet or higher off the ground. Do themselves and the fans a favor and use technology to get the important calls correct.

Instead, let's put cameras on the blue line instead. I have no statistics, but I would think there are more incorrectly called goals, and more important incorrectly called goals, because of pucks knocked down that are too high as opposed to offside.

[codynw]

I think it's more incompetence that affects the Flames a lot.

[flamesfan1297]

I'm pretty sure the reffing is just awful. But I don't believe it's an actual conspiracy

[zukes]

I do not think that there is a conspiracy per se, but I do believe that the Flames do not get the benefit of the doubt, and whether that is conscious or sub-conscious on each individual's part is debatable.

[Geeoff]

Reptilian globalists are turning our frogs gay with chemtrails! Longevity pills!!

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Par

The Flames had 5 PP's to the Ducks 0 and they still managed to lose, it is just the fans.

If the high sticked goal called back, they won the game.

If that goal in second game counted, they won that game too.

Conspiracy or not? I'm not sure.

[GirlySports]

Carlyle missed a trick. If he had challenged the Flames 4th goal it would have been called back.

[Sylvanfan]

I personally thought the stick on the third goal contacted the puck at the height of the cross bar. I paused my PVR on the slow motion replay and it looked right in line. Ultimately for me it wasn't conclusive enough to overturn the call on the ice.

Even in game 2, we would lose the goalie interference one there because the foot was contacting Gibson's pad inside the net as he was moving to get the puck.

The second goal last night to me was trash...if that one never goes in no problem. Instead a weak floater from the boards above the has marks get's in the net. It reminds me of the Dan Cloutier center ice goal in 2002. That's the goal where the Flames lost the series.

[PsYcNeT]

What an embarrassing thread.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I personally thought the stick on the third goal contacted the puck at the height of the cross bar. I paused my PVR on the slow motion replay and it looked right in line. Ultimately for me it wasn't conclusive enough to overturn the call on the ice.

Even in game 2, we would lose the goalie interference one there because the foot was contacting Gibson's pad inside the net as he was moving to get the puck.

The second goal last night to me was trash...if that one never goes in no problem. Instead a weak floater from the boards above the has marks get's in the net. It reminds me of the Dan Cloutier center ice goal in 2002. That's the goal where the Flames lost the series.

They are saying on 960 right now with Eric Duhatschek. that several people that saw the goal at eye level behind the net said it was a good goal. Erick also said he believes is was a good goal.

[Robbob]

There is no conspiracy. I don't think the refs had anything to do with it. I liked the reffing last night. They let the players decide the game, which should have happened in game two.

[Igottago]

Is NHL officiating inconsistent at the best of times? Yes. Is there a conspiracy specifically against the Flames? Not a chance in hell.

[SportsJunky]

Ha, lots of "It's not a conspiracy...but" posts.

The evidence shows that Oswald worked alone...but...

[Kjesse]

Biases are everywhere in the reffing, sometimes it works out for the Flames, sometimes not. Those biases are subconscious most of the time. You can't get rid of it as long as people are reffing. Maybe someday there will be a super reffing robot, but for now, in all sports, in all leagues, there are natural biases that can not be overcome. You can only try to minimize it.

The Flames got away with at least one boarding call last night.

To suggest there is an actual conspiracy is absurd.

[Looch City]

This is a conspiracy started by Ken King to make us hate the Flames and thus making it easier to move the team elsewhere and build his precious arena complete with a golden throne to sit on.

[Jimmy Stang]

Conspiracy theories emerge when the reality is difficult to comprehend or accept.

Sadly, the NHL is actually just very inconsistent and incompetent with officiating, both on and off the ice. It doesn't have the mystery and appeal of a dark figure pulling the strings of the league behind the scenes, but reality is never as interesting.

The Flames have had every opportunity to win games in this series, and have found ways to lose. Stupid penalties, the infamous line change, more stupid penalties, and a complete capitulation to turn a 4-1 lead into a 5-4 loss. Sprinkle in a little bit of bad luck and a little bit of self pity, and that recipe serves up exactly what we're having for dinner: 3-0 down against a team that does almost everything better than us.