Oscar Pistorius kills his GF ?

[CaptainCrunch]

Sounds more like a argument gone wrong to me, the baseball bat part is disturbing. Did he crush her skull before or after he shot her?

Sounds like he's a scumbag.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by nik-

Are you really surprised after reading the post just before yours?

Having been there and having close friends that live there, yes I am. It is still very much a "third world run" country. Bribes are common, and the opinion of the police is low (in white/black/mixed communities). The police are viewed as an employer of last resort for people. My mate told me when I was there that if the cops tell you to pull over, keep driving. If they follow you go to a very busy populated area, one with CCTV is best.

Don't get me wrong, if he is guilty then fata him. I am just surprised by what appears to be quality police work in that country.

[GirlySports]

I'm curious about how he thought he could even get away with this and even present the body (in her pajamas) to police as an accident. Amazing what goes through someone's mind.

You'd think he would either:

A) Flee
B) Kill himself too

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I'm curious about how he thought he could even get away with this and even present the body (in her pajamas) to police as an accident. Amazing what goes through someone's mind.

You'd think he would either:

A) Flee
B) Kill himself too

He's a hero to millions with money to burn, if you don't think he's going to get an unbelievable and cloudy defense your crazy.

These people think and rightfully so that they can buy their way out of anything.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I'm curious about how he thought he could even get away with this and even present the body (in her pajamas) to police as an accident. Amazing what goes through someone's mind.

You'd think he would either:

A) Flee
B) Kill himself too

It is hard to apply our thought process to that country. He is part of a group, Afrikaner (He names seems to be), that think they are privilaged. Home invasion in SA is crazy common. Many whites have a siege mentality. By our standards his thought patterns are stupid.

If he did this (I think he did) I hope they stick him in a hole for the rest of his life.

[CaptainCrunch]

I could look it up, but does SA have the death penalty?

[undercoverbrother]

nope it was dropped sometime in 95

[Stay Golden]

"City Press cited three sources close to the investigation who said they believe that the evidence was now “rock solid” that Pistorius deliberately murdered his girlfriend.
They claimed that police found one bullet casing in the runner’s bedroom. Detectives have reportedly surmised that he chased his girlfriend and fired the first shot before she locked herself in the bathroom and he then fired three more through the door.
A close friend of Pistorius told how the athlete called him moments after Miss Steenkamp was shot and told him: “My baba, I’ve killed my baba. God take me away.”
Justin Divaris told the Sunday People: “Oscar called me at 3.55am saying that Reeva had been shot. I said to him, 'What are you talking about? I don’t understand you.’ He then repeated himself — 'There has been a terrible accident, I shot Reeva.’ ”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ainst-him.html

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

"City Press cited three sources close to the investigation who said they believe that the evidence was now “rock solid” that Pistorius deliberately murdered his girlfriend.
They claimed that police found one bullet casing in the runner’s bedroom. Detectives have reportedly surmised that he chased his girlfriend and fired the first shot before she locked herself in the bathroom and he then fired three more through the door.
A close friend of Pistorius told how the athlete called him moments after Miss Steenkamp was shot and told him: “My baba, I’ve killed my baba. God take me away.”
Justin Divaris told the Sunday People: “Oscar called me at 3.55am saying that Reeva had been shot. I said to him, 'What are you talking about? I don’t understand you.’ He then repeated himself — 'There has been a terrible accident, I shot Reeva.’ ”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ainst-him.html

It doesn't sound like its an accident dirt bag.

I'm curious about where the bat fits in.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

It doesn't sound like its an accident dirt bag.

I'm curious about where the bat fits in.

I can think of a place or two that they should try to fit the bat in, if he indeed brutally murdered his girlfriend.

[d_phaneuf]

The Onion ‏@TheOnion
Oscar Pistorius Swears Bloody Cricket Bat From Different Murder http://onion.com/WSmUJp

[Senator Clay Davis]

Roid Rage?

The theory that Oscar Pistorius may have lashed out at his girlfriend in a "roid rage" attack is apparently more than just wild speculation, as the there are now reports that illegal drugs were found in the Olympic sprinter's home. The UK paper The Sun reported on Monday that police found banned performance enhancing drugs in his Pretoria home during their investigation of the crime scene. The source says they also found evidence of heaving drinking, which prompted them to order full drug tests of the suspect.

http://news.yahoo.com/report-steroid...131405281.html

And taking the time to put the prosthetic legs on is the key in the premeditation argument. Also apparently he shot her, he just didn't mean to kill her (so there was no murder...). Good luck with that argument.

The shooting death has shocked South Africans and many around the world who idolized Pistorius for overcoming adversity to become a sports champion, competing in the London Olympics last year in track besides being a Paralympian.

Steenkamp, 29, was a model and law graduate who made her debut on a South African reality TV program on Saturday, two days after her death.

Nel said the couple had had a shouting match and Steenkamp fled to the bathroom, down a 7-meter passage from the bedroom, and locked herself in. He said the 26-year-old Pistorius got up from bed and had to put on his prosthetic legs to reach the toilet door.

Nel told the court the door was broken open after the shots were fired. Pistorius' lawyer insisted there was no evidence to substantiate a murder charge.

"Was it to kill her, or was it to get her out?" defense attorney Barry Roux asked the court, referring to the broken-down door. "We submit it is not even murder. There is no concession this is a murder."

http://espn.go.com/olympics/trackand...eeva-steenkamp

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Roid Rage?

http://news.yahoo.com/report-steroid...131405281.html

And taking the time to put the prosthetic legs on is the key in the premeditation argument. Also apparently he shot her, he just didn't mean to kill her (so there was no murder...). Good luck with that argument.


http://espn.go.com/olympics/trackand...eeva-steenkamp

Oh yes, the ol' "I wasn't trying to kill my girlfriend, those were just warning shots" defense. That'll go over well.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Roid Rage?

http://news.yahoo.com/report-steroid...131405281.html

And taking the time to put the prosthetic legs on is the key in the premeditation argument. Also apparently he shot her, he just didn't mean to kill her (so there was no murder...). Good luck with that argument.


http://espn.go.com/olympics/trackand...eeva-steenkamp

old fashioned Jealousy of another man rage is more like it, and no i'm not say she was cheating and had it coming. I'm say OP probably had a long streak of jealousy of other men being around her period. The timing of this reality show she just finished filming is also pretty hard to overlook. One thing i am certain of Oscar is a liar. The other is he is a murderer.
Min sentence for premeditated murder in South Africa is life in prison and i don't think its the same as Canada's lame interpretation of a life sentence.

[Inglewood Jack]

[valo403]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Oh yes, the ol' "I wasn't trying to kill my girlfriend, those were just warning shots" defense. That'll go over well.

I believe they're arguing that he thought it was a burglar inside the bathroom, apparently hiding in there upon being discovered, and that he fired shots into the door to defend himself. He then realized that his GF wasn't in bed where he thought she was, and put two and two together.

IMO it sounds like he came up with a story after the fact, and there seems to be a lot of evidence out there that will hopefully poke a million holes in it.

[Canada 02]

totally off topic, but not the least bit surprised that a high profile Olympic athlete tests clean at the Olympics and Paralympics, but has PEDs in his home

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by valo403

I believe they're arguing that he thought it was a burglar inside the bathroom, apparently hiding in there upon being discovered, and that he fired shots into the door to defend himself. He then realized that his GF wasn't in bed where he thought she was, and put two and two together.

IMO it sounds like he came up with a story after the fact, and there seems to be a lot of evidence out there that will hopefully poke a million holes in it.

I would suspect this is a not uncommon defence in SA.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by valo403

I believe they're arguing that he thought it was a burglar inside the bathroom, apparently hiding in there upon being discovered, and that he fired shots into the door to defend himself. He then realized that his GF wasn't in bed where he thought she was, and put two and two together.

IMO it sounds like he came up with a story after the fact, and there seems to be a lot of evidence out there that will hopefully poke a million holes in it.

ah, well that explains the bloody cricket bat and her crushed skull then. the defense should use a microphone during their final statements, and then drop it after they deliver this story.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Pistorius full affidavit (sounds like total lawyer concocted bull####)

By about 2200 on February 13 we were in our bedroom. She was doing yoga exercises and I was in bed watching television. My prosthetic legs were off. We were deeply in love and I could not be happier.

I have received death threats before. I have also been a victim of violence and burglaries before. For that reason I kept my firearm - a 9 mm Parabellum - underneath my bed when I went to bed at night.

During the early morning hours of 14 February 2013 I woke up, went onto the balcony to bring the fan in and closed the sliding doors, the blinds and the curtains. I heard a noise in the bathroom and realized someone was in the bathroom.

I felt a sense of terror rushing over me. There were no burglar bars across the bathroom window and I knew contractors who worked at my house had left the ladders outside. Although I did not have my prosthetics legs on, I have mobility on my stumps.

I believed someone had entered my house. I was too scared to switch a light on. I grabbed my 9 mm pistol from underneath my bed.

On my way to the bathroom I screamed words to the effect for him/them to get out of my house and for Reeva to phone the police. It was pitch dark in the bedroom and I thought Reeva was in bed.

I noticed that the bathroom window was open. I realized that the intruder/s was/were in the toilet because the toilet door was closed and I did not see anyone in the bathroom. I heard movement inside the toilet. The toilet is inside the bathroom and has a separate door.

It filled me with horror and fear of an intruder or intruders being inside the toilet. I thought he or they must have entered through the unprotected window.

As I did not have my prosthetic legs on and felt extremely vulnerable, I knew I had to protect Reeva and myself.

I believed that when the intruder/s came out of the toilet, we would be in grave danger. I felt trapped as my bedroom door was locked and I have limited mobility on my stumps.

I fired shots at the toilet door and shouted to Reeva to call the police. She did not respond and I moved backwards out of the bathroom, keeping my eyes on the bathroom entrance.

Everything was pitch dark in the bedroom and I was still too scared to switch on the light. Reeva was not responding.

When I reached the bed, I realized that Reeva was not in the bed. That is when it dawned on me that it could have been Reeva who was in the toilet.

I returned to the bathroom calling her name. I tried to open the toilet door but it was locked. I rushed back into the bedroom and opened the sliding door exiting on to the balcony and screamed for help.

I put on my prosthetic legs, ran back to the bathroom and tried to kick the toilet door open. I think I must have then turned on the light. I went back into the bedroom and grabbed my cricket bat to bash open the toilet door. A panel or panels broke off and I found the key on the floor and unlocked and opened the door. Reeva was slumped over but alive.

I battled to get her out of the toilet and pulled her into the bathroom. I phoned Johan Stander, who was involved in the administration of the estate and asked him to phone the ambulance. I phoned Netcare and asked for help. I went downstairs to open the front door.

I returned to the bathroom and picked Reeva up as I had been told not to wait for the paramedics, but to take her to the hospital. I carried her downstairs in order to take her to the hospital. On my way down, Stander arrived. A doctor who lives in the complex also arrived. Downstairs, I tried to render the assistance to Reeva that I could, but she died in my arms.

I am absolutely mortified by the events and the devastating loss of my beloved Reeva.

With the benefit of hindsight, I believe that Reeva went to the toilet when I went out on the balcony to bring the fan in. I cannot bear to think of the suffering that I have caused her and her family, knowing how much she was loved.

I also know that the events of that tragic night were as I had described them and that in due course I have no doubt the police and the expert investigators will bear this out.

http://news.yahoo.com/pistorius-affi...--finance.html