03-13-2024, 03:27 PM
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#1001
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Hey, you never know, Tij may end up being the better player.
In 1995 Iggy sr had 71 points in the dub, Daymond Langkow had 140. Langkow went 5th overall and Jarome 11th, both ended up being 1000+ game NHLers but Iginla was clearly the better pick by a country mile, winger or not.
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The draft is such a crap shoot anyways, I'd like to grab the guy that will get fans to come to games for the next few years through the rebuild. Whoever that is, but Iginla definitely will
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03-13-2024, 03:43 PM
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#1002
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
The thing with Tij iginla, is that he is projected to go right within range of where the Flames are projected to pick.
Brett Hull went in the 6th round, which makes me think there were a lot of doubts about his NHL upside. In 1974, Detroit drafted 9th OA. Mark and Marty Howe went 25th and 51st respectively. Detroit didn't pick again until 44th and Marty didn't end up doing a heck of a lot in the NHL.
It's not a situation where the Flames would be going off the board (Mark and Marty Howe), or would be selecting a long shot player on name sake alone.
As a side note, I bet a lot of teams regretted not picking Mark Howe or Brett Hull sooner.
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Is he though?
I keep seeing him around 15/16 and we are likely picking top 10.
I'd love it if they picked him in the appropriate range, but unless his ranking moves up or our draft position moves down, I don't see them aligning without going off the board.
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03-13-2024, 03:49 PM
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#1004
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by 8sPOT
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Also 6 Ds in the top 10 which drops Lindstrom into the Flames' range.
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03-13-2024, 03:54 PM
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#1005
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Catton over Lindstrom is a choice... lol.
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03-13-2024, 03:55 PM
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#1006
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Catton over Lindstrom is a choice... lol.
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The long term injury has pushed him down. He's missed a ton of hockey. I figure that's a natural drop in rankings given the circumstance.
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03-13-2024, 04:00 PM
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#1007
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Those Cosentino rankings are interesting. There's a few eyebrow raising things in there IMO:
- Silayev reminds him of Zadorov (probably just a size thing?)
- Yakemchuk ranked higher than most other lists (#5)
- Lindstrom's injury maybe pushes him down to the Flames range (#10)
- Iginla listed as a Center?
Outside of Celebrini being #1 and Demidov being in the top 3, there sure doesn't seem to be much consensus on the the rest of the guys slated to go top-13.
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03-13-2024, 04:06 PM
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#1008
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Ashes
Those Cosentino rankings are interesting. There's a few eyebrow raising things in there IMO:
- Silayev reminds him of Zadorov (probably just a size thing?)
- Yakemchuk ranked higher than most other lists (#5)
- Lindstrom's injury maybe pushes him down to the Flames range (#10)
- Iginla listed as a Center?
Outside of Celebrini being #1 and Demidov being in the top 3, there sure doesn't seem to be much consensus on the the rest of the guys slated to go top-13.
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Even then I could see Demidov slipping to 5 or later.
The only certainty for me is Celebrini at #1 and after that - the specific order is really hard to predict.
It's going to be an absolute blast of a first round, including because the Flames will be in the thick of all that.
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03-13-2024, 04:13 PM
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#1009
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
It's going to be an absolute blast of a first round, including because the Flames will be in the thick of all that.
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This is true.
I'm predicting that the first round will be marked by at least three ‘I can't believe this guy is still on the board!’s, and five ‘Oh, you @#$&*!^!! I was JUST going to pick him!’s.
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03-13-2024, 04:16 PM
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#1010
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
Is he though?
I keep seeing him around 15/16 and we are likely picking top 10.
I'd love it if they picked him in the appropriate range, but unless his ranking moves up or our draft position moves down, I don't see them aligning without going off the board.
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I don't think the Flames picking top 10 is a given, 11th or 12th is just as likely IMO based on strength of schedule and the teams that need to overtake the Flames. Tankathon's aggregate ranking has Iginla at #13, and he has been climbing all year.
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03-13-2024, 04:36 PM
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#1012
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
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I know he's listed as a center, but have you actually seen him play center for any significant amount of time? He almost never takes draws (6th most on the team) so I doubt he's switching to C after the face off.
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03-13-2024, 04:43 PM
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#1014
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
I know he's listed as a center, but have you actually seen him play center for any significant amount of time? He almost never takes draws (6th most on the team) so I doubt he's switching to C after the face off.
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How many draws has he, in fact, taken, and how many have the full-time centres taken? ‘Almost never’ is not a number.
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03-13-2024, 04:51 PM
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#1015
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
How many draws has he, in fact, taken, and how many have the full-time centres taken? ‘Almost never’ is not a number.
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He's taken 116 face offs
Rockets face off leaders:
1st - 1063
2nd - 986
3rd - 713
4th - 265
5th - 237
Tij - 116
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03-13-2024, 05:02 PM
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#1016
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
He's taken 116 face offs
Rockets face off leaders:
1st - 1063
2nd - 986
3rd - 713
4th - 265
5th - 237
Tij - 116
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And he is also only around 37% on faceoffs. The Rockets have him listed as a center on their roster, but it sounds like they limit the number of faceoffs he takes.
i wouldn't be surprised if he projects to be a RW at the NHL level.
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03-13-2024, 05:12 PM
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#1017
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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we've already spent our last two 1sts on wingers "who could play center". How about we just draft a real center?
I know I'm in the minority here, but I honestly hope we don't draft Tij. Another winger is the last thing our prospect pool needs, especially when there's stud defensemen and promising centers to be had in the top 10. Not to speak of the pressure and expectations that would come for him as the son of the greatest player in franchise history.
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03-13-2024, 05:15 PM
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#1018
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
He's taken 116 face offs
Rockets face off leaders:
1st - 1063
2nd - 986
3rd - 713
4th - 265
5th - 237
Tij - 116
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Thanks. That's much more informative.
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03-13-2024, 05:24 PM
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#1019
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Franchise Player
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TIL Ryan Huska was a teammate (and probably line mate) with Iggy in Iggy’s draft year.
Looking at that Kamloops team, damn, how does a guy who goes on to be the best player in the world only finish 7th in team scoring, wild. They must have been stacked or Iggy was just a total unicorn development wise.
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03-13-2024, 05:43 PM
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#1020
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bigrangy
TIL Ryan Huska was a teammate (and probably line mate) with Iggy in Iggy’s draft year.
Looking at that Kamloops team, damn, how does a guy who goes on to be the best player in the world only finish 7th in team scoring, wild. They must have been stacked or Iggy was just a total unicorn development wise.
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That was indeed a stacked team. Their record that year was 52-14-6. Two of the players ahead of Iginla in scoring were Darcy Tucker and Shane Doan.
However, I don't think Huska ever played much on a line with Iginla. Iginla's regular centre was Hnat Domenichelli. The Flames eventually traded for Domenichelli because they thought he would have chemistry with Iginla at the NHL level, too. Oops.
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