Minute's silence before Australia match 'not in keeping with Saudi culture'
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The Saudi Arabian soccer team refused to line up for a minute's silence for the London terror victims on Thursday night because it is not in keeping with their culture.
A spokesman for Football Federation Australia explained they were told a minute of silence was 'not in keeping with Saudi culture' ahead of the match.
Fans were left outraged at the display ahead of the World Cup qualifier against Australia in Adelaide.
Islamic sheikh: 'In their eyes the attackers are martyrs'
An Islamic imam has suggested the Saudi Arabian team refused to take part in a minute's silence for the London terror victims because they believe 'it is not a sin for a Muslim to kill a non-believer'.
Sheikh Mohammad Tawhidi says it is a 'lie' to say the Muslim culture does not remember the dead with a moment of silence, and instead argues the football team did not partake in the mourning because they stand with the jihadist men.
'They did not stop for a moment of silence because according to Wahhabi Islam - which governs Saudi Arabia - it is not wrong or a sin for a Muslim to kill a non-Muslim,' he told Daily Mail Australia.
'Their response suggests that within Muslim culture they don't remember the dead with a moment of silence. This is a lie.'
Sheikh Tawhidi says under Islam Sharia law it is not 'wrong' or a 'sin' for a Muslim to kill a non-Muslim.
'In their eyes the attackers are martyrs who are going to paradise. And if they stand for a minute of silence they are against their Muslim brothers who fought for jihad and fought the 'infidels',' he said.
Sheikh Tawidi also added the team would have been 'ridiculed' back home if they had commemorated the victims of the London terrorist attack.
But this may not be the view of every player within the Saudi team, he pointed out.
The sooner religion is considered a hobby and a comical pastime for humanity, the sooner the age of advanced science and innovation will be ushered in and everyone's quality of life will dramatically improve.
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On a more serious note, jesus christ. People are awful, and religion is a cancer. All of it. Some more malignant than others, maybe.
Not all religion today can be painted with the same brush and about 80% of Muslim would never follow these people's views, sadly though the other 20% or so make up about 250 million people
Islamic sheikh: 'In their eyes the attackers are martyrs'
An Islamic imam has suggested the Saudi Arabian team refused to take part in a minute's silence for the London terror victims because they believe 'it is not a sin for a Muslim to kill a non-believer'.
Sheikh Mohammad Tawhidi says it is a 'lie' to say the Muslim culture does not remember the dead with a moment of silence, and instead argues the football team did not partake in the mourning because they stand with the jihadist men.
'They did not stop for a moment of silence because according to Wahhabi Islam - which governs Saudi Arabia - it is not wrong or a sin for a Muslim to kill a non-Muslim,' he told Daily Mail Australia.
'Their response suggests that within Muslim culture they don't remember the dead with a moment of silence. This is a lie.'
Sheikh Tawhidi says under Islam Sharia law it is not 'wrong' or a 'sin' for a Muslim to kill a non-Muslim.
'In their eyes the attackers are martyrs who are going to paradise. And if they stand for a minute of silence they are against their Muslim brothers who fought for jihad and fought the 'infidels',' he said.
Sheikh Tawidi also added the team would have been 'ridiculed' back home if they had commemorated the victims of the London terrorist attack.
But this may not be the view of every player within the Saudi team, he pointed out.
Should have kicked the team off and sent them home.
Sorry its against our religion to let aholes into our soccer stadiums.
Pretty noxious display.
Really countries really need to gain energy independence from those aholes so that the whole nation can go bankrupt, be bought up and turned into one massive stip club complex.
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Not recognizing the minute of silence is horrible and this guy does point the finger at Saudi Wahhabism but a closer examination is warranted
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Welcome to the weird world of Australia's 'fake sheikh'
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Tawhidi is not recognised as an Imam or Sheikh by either the Australian National Imams Council or its South Australian equivalent, nor is he affiliated with any Australian mosque or prayer centre. The only religious instruction he offers is a self-described "university standard" Islamic Studies class delivered from a rented classroom at the University of South Australia.
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And this is what is most disturbing about the whole Tawhidi phenomenon: in the pantomime that is media coverage of Islam and Muslims, it is far easier to be fake than real. The ridiculous spectre of 2% of the population seizing control and boiling heads in pots - disturbingly similar to Nazi propaganda about Jews cooking and eating babies - is easier to countenance than any real analysis of the dynamics shaping Islam in Australia. A giant exercise in bias confirmation, anything that does not fit the narrative is deemed to be "carrying water for the Islamists."
The spaces where Muslims can even point this out - let alone put forward alternative views informed by genuine engagement with the community - are receding, washed away by a rising tide of paranoid nationalism. The result is a community that turns in on itself, working through its problems in the micro-public arenas of social media, student associations and community politics. While this will not result in anything like the establishment of an Australian Caliphate, it is hardly a recipe for social wellbeing.
What are you going to do as that's their beliefs? I will say stuff like this makes me shake my head;
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'In their eyes the attackers are martyrs who are going to paradise. And if they stand for a minute of silence they are against their Muslim brothers who fought for jihad and fought the 'infidels',' he said.
I simply can't believe how much a human being in this day and age can get brainwashed by religion. Their mentality is something you would expect going back 100 years in a time. I don't follow any religion so forgive me for ignorance but do some of these religions preach the world is flat? The attackers aren't going anywhere. The closest they will ever see to paradise were the moments they spent alive on this earth. They no longer exist in any capacity and cut their life short to serve someone else's agenda.
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Only thing I can think of is maybe they thought it was a form of prayer which wouldn't suit their religious mandate very well. But probably they were just wankers. This happened a couple years ago too but I can't remember the circumstances.
Only thing I can think of is maybe they thought it was a form of prayer which wouldn't suit their religious mandate very well. But probably they were just wankers. This happened a couple years ago too but I can't remember the circumstances.
Media showed the Saudi football team taking a moment's silence on other occasions. Looks like the players just didn't want to this time.
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Well, thats a pretty unambiguous way to make to a political stand. I suspect there will be FIFA suspensions on the way. There have been moments in Turkey like that, but it was the fans that misbehaved after the Paris bombings, at least the team played along.
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Two Australians died in the London attacks and it was disgusting of the Saudis to not show some respect. If this was an attempt to get the Aussies off their game I am glad it backfired spectacularly. I am also glad there is international outrage over this and I hope Saudi Arabia does not qualify for the World Cup.
It looks like the Saudi Arabian football federation has issued an apology, however it is more of a sorry we offended you than a sorry for acting like see you next tuesdays. Not good enough!
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The Saudi Arabian Football Federation deeply regrets and unreservedly apologises for any offence caused by the failure of some members of the representative team of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to formally observe the one minute’s silence in memory of the victims of the London terrorist attack on 3 June 2017, prior to the World Cup Qualifying match against Australia in Adelaide.
The players did not intend any disrespect to the memories of the victims or to cause upset to their families, friends or any individual affected by the atrocity.
The Saudi Arabian Football Federation condemns all acts of terrorism and extremism and extends its sincerest condolences to the families of all the victims and to the Government and people of the United Kingdom.
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Minute's silence before Australia match 'not in keeping with Saudi culture'
