American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS

[photon]

Originally Posted by KevanGuy

I won't be surprised if the collusion didn't occur but that shouldn't excuse his behaviour and lack of qualifications for the job he's got.

If collusion didn't occur (which I would also not be surprised of) and he just left things alone 90% of the problems he's having wouldn't have even started.

[GGG]

Let's define collusion here.

I am willing to bet that as a result of the Meuller probe someone who worked on the campaign is charged and convicted of a criminal offence in relation to the work they did on the campaign or during the transition.

Now will it be as simple as failing to disclose meetings with Kislayk on a security clearance check? Possibly, however for me that would meet my expectations of this investigation.

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For me collusion means intent to benefit from or cause harm via interaction with someone else. Could be as basic as someone in Trump's org providing detailed voter data to someone so they could better target their fake news on Facebook and twitter for example.

But I don't buy that that kind of thing happened, my money is on someone around Trump getting nailed for shady business dealings that get uncovered during the investigations.

[Senator Clay Davis]

And wouldn't we all love to see a presser today or tomorrow for you to prove it? Come on Donny, you know you want to, Obama would....

[DuffMan]

I disagree, he doesn't know the subject well, or understand it much, or understand much of anything.

[Thor]

Sad to see Phil Donahue on MSNBC clearly not the sharpest tool anymore, even defending Trump a bit and saying some pretty stupid stuff overall. The host was so excited to have him on and you can tell now she really regrets it, or at least its like watching someone realize someone they admire is a clown.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

So Trump hangs fake Time magazine covers at some of his clubs, gets called on it, gets upset. Hanging fake covers then calling someone else fake. And some people believe what Trump says.

Donald J. Trump‏@realDonaldTrump
The failing @nytimes writes false story after false story about me. They don't even call to verify the facts of a story. A Fake News Joke!

Glenn Thrush‏@GlennThrush
Call your office, sir. @nytimes spoke to many, many, many members of your staff yesterday - & ran everything by your team.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

So Trump hangs fake Time magazine covers at some of his clubs, gets called on it, gets upset. Hanging fake covers then calling someone else fake. And some people believe what Trump says.

I'm pretty sure he is not operating in the same reality as most people.

[octothorp]

There's a heel in a Kentucky wrestling circuit, whose identity is 'Progressive Liberal', wears shirts emblazoned with Hillary, and yells lines like "If he’s elected president, I hope Trump doesn’t build a wall around Mexico. Instead I hope he builds it around this town so none of you people can infiltrate the population." Of course, his beliefs are actually pretty liberal and this job allows him to essentially vent his frustrations with small town, conservative appalachia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.7ea8455e9dc3

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

And wouldn't we all love to see a presser today or tomorrow for you to prove it? Come on Donny, you know you want to, Obama would....

Another case of Trump not understanding the bill at all then blaming the lack of acceptance on others. Obama debated the entire Republican caucus with a Q&A session broadcast live on TV for ACA. What has Trump done for BCRA?

[DuffMan]

I'd love to see Trump defend and debate it. He knows nothing about it.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

And wouldn't we all love to see a presser today or tomorrow for you to prove it? Come on Donny, you know you want to, Obama would....

"Victory" over who?

Since when did Healthcare become a contest/battle?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

"Victory" over who?

Since when did Healthcare become a contest/battle?

Victory for the rich, death to the poor. Same as always.

[puckedoff]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Victory for the rich, death to the poor.

... and tiny American flags for all?

[chemgear]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-trum...ent-1498611196

Ex-Trump Campaign Manager Paul Manafort (Retroactively?) Registers as Foreign Agent

[Hemi-Cuda]

To further drive home the point that you simply cannot reason with the GOP base, a full 1/3rd of Republicans in Louisiana blamed Obama for Katrina

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/o...rina_n_3790612

This is why Trump will never be impeached, facts don't matter

[Thor]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

To further drive home the point that you simply cannot reason with the GOP base, a full 1/3rd of Republicans in Louisiana blamed Obama for Katrina

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/o...rina_n_3790612

This is why Trump will never be impeached, facts don't matter

Considering that is back in 2013, 4 years later that 1/3 is probably 2/3s now.

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[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Victory for the rich, death to the poor. Same as always.

And U.S. Americans, because Saddam, Afghanistan and 9/11.

U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A.!

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by chemgear

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-trum...ent-1498611196

Ex-Trump Campaign Manager Paul Manafort (Retroactively?) Registers as Foreign Agent

Someone's turned state's evidence... They ask witnesses to go back and fill out the proper paperwork before they roll over.