03-15-2024, 05:22 PM
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#181
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Again not what the data says.
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I see Hanifin as a good #2 dman. Jfresh stats give a 67% war. He states, with great accuracy imho, “ Noah Hanifin, acquired by VGK, is a mobile puck-moving defenceman who typically plays at a top-pairing level. He's very good at a whole lot of things (skating, passing), even if he's not quite elite at anything. Impacts are down this year but microstats are steady.”
https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/sta...28845778616369
He could certainly continue to grow as I believe he did here. He rates his EV defence at 40%. I think this is the rub. He doesn’t score quite enough to be elite. He doesn’t defend well enough to be elite.
Are difference makers HOF material? I think the definition is subjective. He rarely puts the team on his back, but his skillset was good enough the draw interest from most good teams.
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03-15-2024, 05:30 PM
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#182
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Fourteen FTW
I see Hanifin as a good #2 dman. Jfresh stats give a 67% war. He states, with great accuracy imho, “ Noah Hanifin, acquired by VGK, is a mobile puck-moving defenceman who typically plays at a top-pairing level. He's very good at a whole lot of things (skating, passing), even if he's not quite elite at anything. Impacts are down this year but microstats are steady.”
https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/sta...28845778616369
He could certainly continue to grow as I believe he did here. He rates his EV defence at 40%. I think this is the rub. He doesn’t score quite enough to be elite. He doesn’t defend well enough to be elite.
Are difference makers HOF material? I think the definition is subjective. He rarely puts the team on his back, but his skillset was good enough the draw interest from most good teams. |
Accurate and well stated, with strong evidence.
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03-15-2024, 05:45 PM
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#183
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Holy these are the defending champs? If they make it in they’re going down in four.
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Their D and goaltending:
Hanifin - Pietrangelo
Martinez - Theodore
McNabb - Whitecloud
Hague
Hill
Thompson
That D is arguably (maybe inarguably) the best in the NHL. And the goaltending is rock solid and under-rated.
Say what you want about them, and they will miss Stone, but I think we are just looking at a Stanley Cup hangover right now. Come playoffs, they will be a very tough out. And I would not want to have to face them in the first round.
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03-15-2024, 06:00 PM
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#184
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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^Yup, Martinez and Hertl expected back by the end of the Month, Stone probably game 1 of playoffs. They will be fine.
Hopefully they nosedive for 25/26 though!!
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03-15-2024, 06:02 PM
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#185
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Biggest mistake any one can make is to look past the Golden Knights lol.
Guarantee that every one will be back and magically 100% for game 1 of POs.
Their only concern is puttering along just well enough to ensure that they qualify.
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03-15-2024, 07:31 PM
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#186
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Franchise Player
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They looked awful last night.
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03-15-2024, 08:01 PM
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#187
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
They looked awful last night.
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I understand Cassidy tore strips off them for it. Told them they can't just coast until the playoffs, they have to make them first.
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03-15-2024, 09:23 PM
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#188
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2024
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Their D and goaltending:
Hanifin - Pietrangelo
Martinez - Theodore
McNabb - Whitecloud
Hague
Hill
Thompson
That D is arguably (maybe inarguably) the best in the NHL. And the goaltending is rock solid and under-rated.
Say what you want about them, and they will miss Stone, but I think we are just looking at a Stanley Cup hangover right now. Come playoffs, they will be a very tough out. And I would not want to have to face them in the first round.
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Imagine being so good that Shea Theodore is on your second pair. Good god.
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03-15-2024, 09:42 PM
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#189
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon
Imagine being so good that Shea Theodore is on your second pair. Good god.
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Yet, destroyed by the Flames! Go figure!
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03-16-2024, 01:33 PM
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#190
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Okhotyuk was the Flames' best possession player. Pachal, defying my eye test, was the second best possession defenceman. Although they're both getting relatively protected minutes, 66% and 63% offensive zone starts respectively.
Rooney, Pelletier and Duehr struggled mightily possession wise.
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03-19-2024, 04:50 AM
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#191
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Franchise Player
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Remember this, TSN stands for Toronto's Sports Network! 
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