07-11-2017, 03:00 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dion
Term is too long. 5x5 would have been better.
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And likely not available.
The 7 year term kept he AAV down.
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07-11-2017, 03:17 PM
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#22
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
What's the risk for the player?
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The player risks the loss of opportunity that could see him sign a bigger contract down the road. Even if the cap remains static (which is doubtful) and even if Johnson merely maintains his current level of play, after four years it seems pretty likely that he could sign as a UFA for a fair bit more money.
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07-11-2017, 03:52 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
The player risks the loss of opportunity that could see him sign a bigger contract down the road. Even if the cap remains static (which is doubtful) and even if Johnson merely maintains his current level of play, after four years it seems pretty likely that he could sign as a UFA for a fair bit more money.
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I'm not sure if the market is willing to pay an 18 goal, 50 point, undersized, injury prone center considerably more than $5 million a season. He's a good player but not elite or even great and there's not much in the way of untapped potential. IMO he made out very well in this deal and the Lightning are taking most of the risk here.
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07-11-2017, 03:56 PM
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#24
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Stevie Y should have walked away from this one. And Stamkos too.
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07-11-2017, 04:20 PM
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#25
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I'm not sure if the market is willing to pay an 18 goal, 50 point, undersized, injury prone center considerably more than $5 million a season. He's a good player but not elite or even great and there's not much in the way of untapped potential. IMO he made out very well in this deal and the Lightning are taking most of the risk here.
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Looking at his per game averages over 4 years, he's almost 25g and just shy of 60p for a full season - not to mention he does well in the play offs....
He's 26 now, and signed through 33, so this deal won't go into the 35yo range or anything like that.
Seems like a very reasonable deal to me
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07-11-2017, 04:56 PM
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#26
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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^He had one great year which brings up the average. Agreed about his playoff stats.
He has been fairly injury prone, so a 7x5 deal looks pretty risky to me. Guess TB is satisfied that he has no long-term problems.
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07-11-2017, 06:48 PM
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#27
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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How is Johnson injury prone? In his last 4 seasons he's missed 30 games, which isn't that significant.
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07-11-2017, 06:56 PM
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#28
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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He missed 16 last year and 13 the year previous
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07-11-2017, 07:51 PM
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#29
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Originally Posted by automaton 3
He missed 16 last year and 13 the year previous
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Hardly makes him injury prone.
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09-09-2017, 04:54 PM
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#30
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by s_procee
Good value
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Stop spamming the forums.
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09-09-2017, 04:58 PM
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#31
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: May 2017
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Spamming would be if I am trying to sell something wouldn't it be?
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09-09-2017, 04:58 PM
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#32
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by AC
Stop spamming the forums.
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At least he used two words in that post. A real step up from "lol" and "ok".
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09-09-2017, 05:00 PM
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#33
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: May 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4X4
At least he used two words in that post. A real step up from "lol" and "ok".
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you are right I should probably contribute to the conversation.
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09-09-2017, 05:06 PM
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#34
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: A place for Mom
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Quote:
Originally Posted by s_procee
how else am i suppose to get to 100 posts?
Looking at this contract now its probably even better than the horvat one. Johnson will be getting more points.
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e=ng
Last edited by calgarybornnraised; 09-09-2017 at 05:09 PM.
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09-09-2017, 05:10 PM
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#35
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by s_procee
you are right I should probably contribute to the conversation.
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Isn't that the whole point of forums?
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09-09-2017, 05:11 PM
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#36
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: May 2017
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Originally Posted by calgarybornnraised
e=ng
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e is over my head
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09-09-2017, 05:13 PM
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#37
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: May 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Isn't that the whole point of forums?
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I think you may be on to something, that is the point of forums.
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09-09-2017, 05:15 PM
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#38
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by s_procee
I think you may be on to something, that is the point of forums.
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Right.
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09-09-2017, 05:17 PM
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#39
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: May 2017
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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Right.
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careful with the one word responses, people do not appreciate that sort of behavior on here.
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09-09-2017, 05:21 PM
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#40
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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There's a difference, though. If I may say so myself, I'm a fairly regular poster who has been here for over a year.
You're clearly trying to just spam the forum so you can sell tickets. The only kind of reputation that you can get out of doing stuff like that is a bad one.
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