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Old 07-11-2017, 03:00 PM   #21
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Term is too long. 5x5 would have been better.
And likely not available.

The 7 year term kept he AAV down.
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Old 07-11-2017, 03:17 PM   #22
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What's the risk for the player?
The player risks the loss of opportunity that could see him sign a bigger contract down the road. Even if the cap remains static (which is doubtful) and even if Johnson merely maintains his current level of play, after four years it seems pretty likely that he could sign as a UFA for a fair bit more money.
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The player risks the loss of opportunity that could see him sign a bigger contract down the road. Even if the cap remains static (which is doubtful) and even if Johnson merely maintains his current level of play, after four years it seems pretty likely that he could sign as a UFA for a fair bit more money.
I'm not sure if the market is willing to pay an 18 goal, 50 point, undersized, injury prone center considerably more than $5 million a season. He's a good player but not elite or even great and there's not much in the way of untapped potential. IMO he made out very well in this deal and the Lightning are taking most of the risk here.
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Stevie Y should have walked away from this one. And Stamkos too.
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Old 07-11-2017, 04:20 PM   #25
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I'm not sure if the market is willing to pay an 18 goal, 50 point, undersized, injury prone center considerably more than $5 million a season. He's a good player but not elite or even great and there's not much in the way of untapped potential. IMO he made out very well in this deal and the Lightning are taking most of the risk here.
Looking at his per game averages over 4 years, he's almost 25g and just shy of 60p for a full season - not to mention he does well in the play offs....

He's 26 now, and signed through 33, so this deal won't go into the 35yo range or anything like that.

Seems like a very reasonable deal to me
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^He had one great year which brings up the average. Agreed about his playoff stats.

He has been fairly injury prone, so a 7x5 deal looks pretty risky to me. Guess TB is satisfied that he has no long-term problems.
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Old 07-11-2017, 06:48 PM   #27
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How is Johnson injury prone? In his last 4 seasons he's missed 30 games, which isn't that significant.
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He missed 16 last year and 13 the year previous
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Old 07-11-2017, 07:51 PM   #29
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He missed 16 last year and 13 the year previous
Hardly makes him injury prone.
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Spamming would be if I am trying to sell something wouldn't it be?
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Stop spamming the forums.
At least he used two words in that post. A real step up from "lol" and "ok".
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At least he used two words in that post. A real step up from "lol" and "ok".
you are right I should probably contribute to the conversation.
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how else am i suppose to get to 100 posts?

Looking at this contract now its probably even better than the horvat one. Johnson will be getting more points.
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Old 09-09-2017, 05:10 PM   #35
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you are right I should probably contribute to the conversation.
Isn't that the whole point of forums?
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Old 09-09-2017, 05:11 PM   #36
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Isn't that the whole point of forums?
I think you may be on to something, that is the point of forums.
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I think you may be on to something, that is the point of forums.
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Right.
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Old 09-09-2017, 05:17 PM   #39
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Right.
careful with the one word responses, people do not appreciate that sort of behavior on here.
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There's a difference, though. If I may say so myself, I'm a fairly regular poster who has been here for over a year.

You're clearly trying to just spam the forum so you can sell tickets. The only kind of reputation that you can get out of doing stuff like that is a bad one.
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