06-11-2017, 12:04 PM
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#41
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Do the people who think it's "foolish" to not want to throw Rittich into this deal have the same opinion if it's Gillies and not Rittich?
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I'd easily replace Gillies in that deal and still do it. We could only hope that Gillies could get to Rannta's level of development, goalies rarely turn into starters. Great deal for us.
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06-11-2017, 12:10 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Carnage
Is it just me, or does that make zero sense for Winnipeg? They'd have to expose Hellebuyck if trading for Raanta, which seems to make zero sense from their perspective...
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It could be just the Rangers trying to the Flames to up their bid.
Although, Hellebuyck didn't exactly win anyone over last season.
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06-11-2017, 12:21 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central Alberta
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Heck, if the rumours are true that Carey Price or Cory Schneider might be available, I hope Tre goes all in for one of those guys. The cost would be higher but goaltending would be solved for the foreseeable future.
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06-11-2017, 12:24 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Do the people who think it's "foolish" to not want to throw Rittich into this deal have the same opinion if it's Gillies and not Rittich?
Could we extend Johnson to meet the requirement?
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Sure you could. But why would he sign if he is going to be exposed?
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06-11-2017, 12:45 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
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Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rejean31
Heck, if the rumours are true that Carey Price or Cory Schneider might be available, I hope Tre goes all in for one of those guys. The cost would be higher but goaltending would be solved for the foreseeable future.
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Were there actually any vindicated rumors or was it just fans spit-balling?
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06-11-2017, 01:04 PM
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#46
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
Sure you could. But why would he sign if he is going to be exposed?
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having a bona-fide nhl contract for one.. thats not exactly a guarantee through the off season..chad johnskn had a good stretch for the Flames and Sabres in two seasons but it's not like hes for sure to get another nhl deal...
Nhl contract today for any 31 teams > maybe having one later
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06-11-2017, 01:08 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
Sure you could. But why would he sign if he is going to be exposed?
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If we offered Chad Johnson a 1.9 million x 2 year contract, I think he would accept the risk of being claimed in expansion vs the reward of job security in his home town.
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06-11-2017, 01:32 PM
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#48
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
Were there actually any vindicated rumors or was it just fans spit-balling?
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Fans spit-balling. Neither is being shopped.
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06-11-2017, 01:47 PM
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#49
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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A big no thanks from me. Guy is not the answer
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06-11-2017, 02:15 PM
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#50
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Do the Rangers stand to lose any decent players in the expansion draft outside of Rataa? If so I would imagine the trade offers have to be better than whatever would be the player that Las Vegas would take off their roster.
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I think their protected list is projected to be:
Nash, Stepan, Kreider, Zuccarello, Miller, Zibanejad, Hayes
Staal, Girardi, McDonagh
Lundqvist
Which would leave
Fast, Grabner, Lindberg
Klein, Paliotta
Raanta
as the most attractive unprotected assets
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06-11-2017, 02:39 PM
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#51
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Lifetime Suspension
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Yo, analytics guys. How is Klein? Could be a potential partner for TJ on that second pairing.
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06-11-2017, 02:49 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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I would think the Rangers would convince Girardi to waive his NMC or buy him out? I don't see them exposing Klein and keeping Girardi.
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06-11-2017, 02:50 PM
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#53
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Klein is okay analytically on a pretty bad Rangers team (in that respect).
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06-11-2017, 04:44 PM
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#54
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
I think their protected list is projected to be:
Nash, Stepan, Kreider, Zuccarello, Miller, Zibanejad, Hayes
Staal, Girardi, McDonagh
Lundqvist
Which would leave
Fast, Grabner, Lindberg
Klein, Paliotta
Raanta
as the most attractive unprotected assets
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So you can argue they would prefer maybe LV taking Raanta than Klein.
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06-11-2017, 05:04 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Fast is a good young asset as well. Cannot count him out of LV taking him.
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06-11-2017, 05:09 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Yeah, the Rangers have a lot of expansion bait. Grabner is another Vegas could realistically take. I could see them keeping Raanta around until the expansion draft is over as a way to hopefully entice Vegas to keeping their paws off of anyone else. But if Vegas does select a skater, the Rangers would then trade Raanta to another team.
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06-11-2017, 05:15 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
I think their protected list is projected to be:
Nash, Stepan, Kreider, Zuccarello, Miller, Zibanejad, Hayes
Staal, Girardi, McDonagh
Lundqvist
Which would leave
Fast, Grabner, Lindberg
Klein, Paliotta
Raanta
as the most attractive unprotected assets
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That doesn't meet the exposure requirements. They'd have to either sign Fast or Lindberg (or Puempel or Pirri) to a new contract in the next week or leave Hayes unprotected.
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06-11-2017, 06:01 PM
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#58
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
That doesn't meet the exposure requirements. They'd have to either sign Fast or Lindberg (or Puempel or Pirri) to a new contract in the next week or leave Hayes unprotected.
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Which according to the article the Rangers are in the process of signing one of Fast, Lindberg, or Puempel to an extension, but their agents have taken a hardline stance realizing the Rangers need them to satisfy the expansion requirements. Given the stiff penalties for not meeting the requirements and potentially letting Hayes go for free, they will likely cave to one of those guys.
According to the article they are going to let Pirri go unqualified.
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06-11-2017, 06:03 PM
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#59
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Participant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
Yo, analytics guys. How is Klein? Could be a potential partner for TJ on that second pairing.
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I haven't heard the Rangers being interested in trading him, and if we made a deal pre-expansion we'd probably immediately lose him to Vegas anyway.
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06-11-2017, 06:38 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Klein is an answer to precisely zero of the problems the Flames have.
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