Ferland Trial

[robbie111]

Was called for jury selection this morning with over 300 other amazingly happy people (lol) and was wondering what the trial was going to be for and saw the name Ferland, Michael on the monitor outside the courtroom. Sure enough...didn't get selected as I was let go early when my number was not called. Just thought it was kinda cool to recognize the name and guess right.

Sounds like he cleaned up his act from early posts this season and hope this trial doesn't derail him.

[dakeyras]

I was there too & also wasn't called up.

When I heard the name my 1st thought was to assume it was the Flames prospect because there can't be too many Michael Ferland's around. I'd forgotten he was involved in anything.

I googled it & the incident happened August 2012. A delay or 2 and it's only hitting court now.

[Monahan23]

It was a bar fight or something wasn't it?

[Drury18]

Yes, it was a fight at a "drinking establishment":

http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/07/19...t-in-june-2014

Cops said a group of people had gathered outside a drinking establishment about 1:10 a.m. when one male was pushed to the ground.

When another man came over to assist him, he was struck in the face, knocked unconscious and had the orbital bone around his eye fractured

Trial begins on Monday according to the article from last July.

[ToraToraTora]

10 day assault trial on a direct indictment? That's nuts considering it was supposed to be a 5 day provincial summary trial last year.

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[Drury18]

I believe there would have been a preliminary hearing and then a trial which would have taken longer. The direct indictment allows them to have a set trial without delays and a pre-hearing. There must have been enough evidence against him to proceed as well.

Seems like a common thing in the Alberta court system. Few articles, unrelated to Ferland, state this was the new direction to speed up court times.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/touch/s...tml?id=8641154

[tvp2003]

Details about the history (transfer from Provincial Court to Queen's Bench) and the first day of trial (testimony of the victim, his friend, and a bouncer): http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/ca...487/story.html

[IgiTang]

You can totally see it happening, but it sounds alot like speculation.. 2 drunk guys trying to play "hero", a bouncer not directly involved meanwhile in the process of removing someone else from the bar. Was there an arrest made that night or was it days later when Ferland was arrested as the "alleged" assaulter? If so, I dont know how the crown can win this. Too much speculation, after thought and alcohal involved.

[Stay Golden]

I remember the time when a bar fight was just a bar fight. If there was no weapons involved and head stomping or swarming BS like the cowardly crap that ensues today. Then it was just that a bar fight no police no lawyers.
Man 1/2 my generation of males would be on assault charges.
Hopefully Ferlands lawyer can prove it was a couple of guys who recognized his client and wanted to test their toughness.

[polak]

I still haven't seen anyone get arrested after a bar fight... I've seen the cops show up after bigger brawls but still don't know of anyone getting taken away in cuffs. Even when there were bottles involved.

Maybe he's just an idiot?

[Huntingwhale]

Obviously he's truculent.

[Mass_nerder]

Why do I feel like this wouldn't have even resulted in an arrest had it been strictly between two townies?
The guy's friend points out that Ferland (possibly on his way to the NHL) was there (possibly did the punching) and now there is a full-blown trial.

[ToraToraTora]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Why do I feel like this wouldn't have even resulted in an arrest had it been strictly between two townies?
The guy's friend points out that Ferland (possibly on his way to the NHL) was there (possibly did the punching) and now there is a full-blown trial.

Conviction = Better chance of success in a civil trial. Preferably if Ferland is making NHL dollars.

[Matty81]

Hopefully the court case brings the truth to light. Lots of flames homerdom in the thread but if dude did it, deserves whatever the penalty is Flames prospect or no. I grew up in a northern bush town with a lot of bar fights, they don't usually go to court because there are two guys swinging, sounds like he was the only guy throwing (if it was actually him). If it wasn't him, hopefully that comes out too.

[Drury18]

Day 2 Recap: http://www.calgarysun.com/2014/06/10...-2012-incident

Charlotte Barker testified before a Calgary jury her nephew had the shiner shortly after she saw him strike the man he’s charged with assaulting.

Barker said she was hustling Ferland out of the Stageline bar when he staggered back into her and then threw a wild punch which struck Jayson Eyma.

But Barker, who was pushing the much bigger Ferland from behind, said she couldn’t see Eyma before the accused swung at him.

Herald Recap: http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...889/story.html

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Obviously he's truculent.

Can this die already? Please? It is ridiculously played out.

[OzSome]

I am not so sure about this... Eyma's friend pointed out Ferland's face from the newspaper so he was positive that Ferland was the guy who hit him. Did he say he was positive when he saw the picture and probably the article says Calgary Flames prospect? Was he really punched or was he accidentally pushed? I think I read the other guy, the farmer did not see Ferland hit Eyma. Then another witness a bouncer claims he was in a process of kicking somebody out of the bar managed to see Ferland punching Eyma. Hmmmm... I am not going to try to make judgment here based on the 4 testimonies. I was not there to witness the incident but I just find some of the stories fishy.
Anyways I guess we will find out what is going to happen sometime soon. I am wondering if there's any security camera that picks up the incident.
I agree with some posters...back in the days when a fight broke out at the bar..you get beat up or you beat up the other guy... that's it as long as there's no weapon involved. No cops you walk away with friends and forget things ever happen. Now you get beat up and you sue the guy who beat you up no matter who started the fight.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by OzSome

I am not so sure about this... Eyma's friend pointed out Ferland's face from the newspaper so he was positive that Ferland was the guy who hit him. Did he say he was positive when he saw the picture and probably the article says Calgary Flames prospect? Was he really punched or was he accidentally pushed? I think I read the other guy, the farmer did not see Ferland hit Eyma. Then another witness a bouncer claims he was in a process of kicking somebody out of the bar managed to see Ferland punching Eyma. Hmmmm... I am not going to try to make judgment here based on the 4 testimonies. I was not there to witness the incident but I just find some of the stories fishy.
Anyways I guess we will find out what is going to happen sometime soon. I am wondering if there's any security camera that picks up the incident.
I agree with some posters...back in the days when a fight broke out at the bar..you get beat up or you beat up the other guy... that's it as long as there's no weapon involved. No cops you walk away with friends and forget things ever happen. Now you get beat up and you sue the guy who beat you up no matter who started the fight.

The whole thing is there is only one guy throwing punches, from my understanding. If I am at a bar and some idiot starts wildly throwing punches at me (not saying this is the case here) you are damn right I am suing or pressing charges. The average person is out for a good time not to be sucker punched as is the alleged case here.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Weitz

The whole thing is there is only one guy throwing punches, from my understanding. If I am at a bar and some idiot starts wildly throwing punches at me (not saying this is the case here) you are damn right I am suing or pressing charges. The average person is out for a good time not to be sucker punched as is the alleged case here.

Not according to his Aunt's testimony. Ferland already had a shiner starting so someone must have hit him. Going off tidbits in the paper and the context that the reporter is giving them can effect the way you look at it. If, and we don't know, the other guy who crossed the street to get involved, pushed/punched/grabbed Ferland then he is in his right to pop the guy. And the guy setting himself up to sue Ferland didn't do anything until another buddy looked him up online and said that was the guy, pretty fishy to me.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

Not according to his Aunt's testimony. Ferland already had a shiner starting so someone must have hit him. Going off tidbits in the paper and the context that the reporter is giving them can effect the way you look at it. If, and we don't know, the other guy who crossed the street to get involved, pushed/punched/grabbed Ferland then he is in his right to pop the guy. And the guy setting himself up to sue Ferland didn't do anything until another buddy looked him up online and said that was the guy, pretty fishy to me.

I'm no lawyer or anything, but is there not a cap for money/damages in Alberta on civil suits for things of this nature? Or is that purely for car accidents? Or am I just way off base?