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Old 04-19-2017, 11:43 PM   #21
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Vatanen nor Pickard are being protected, they shouldn't cost anything more than midround picks. For Toffoli create a package around the 17th pick. The Kings can't afford to bring him back.
I don't think that will happen but I do appreciate you giving your reasoning and maybe there is a chance. Thanks!
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Old 04-19-2017, 11:45 PM   #22
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Who the #### are you?

I'm not the guy being a dink on sweep night.
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This thread is giving me Gaudreauvertime flashbacks already. Please make it stop
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Old 04-19-2017, 11:46 PM   #24
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I don't think that will happen but I do appreciate you giving your reasoning and maybe there is a chance. Thanks!
No problem, wasn't trying to take a jab at you with the Streit comment. To be honest, I didn't even see him in your roster. I saw him in TheScorpions post before he edited it.
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Vatanen nor Pickard are being protected, they shouldn't cost anything more than midround picks. For Toffoli create a package around the 17th pick. The Kings can't afford to bring him back.
What?

Sami Vatanen would go for way way more then a mid round pick.
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What?

Sami Vatanen would go for way way more then a mid round pick.
What do you think an unprotected Sami Vatanen is worth? I'm sure the Ducks would prefer a collection of mid round picks as opposed to losing him for nothing.
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What do you think an unprotected Sami Vatanen is worth? I'm sure the Ducks would prefer a collection of mid round picks as opposed to losing him for nothing.
The Ducks would get at least a first for Vatanen
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What do you think an unprotected Sami Vatanen is worth? I'm sure the Ducks would prefer a collection of mid round picks as opposed to losing him for nothing.
At least a 2nd rounder. Or a 2nd rounder + a prospect or two.
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The Ducks would get at least a first for Vatanen
We'll see I guess.
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What do you think an unprotected Sami Vatanen is worth? I'm sure the Ducks would prefer a collection of mid round picks as opposed to losing him for nothing.
Teams would offer then more then a "collection of mid round picks" because multiple teams would want him.

He's a 26 year old very good Top 4 Dman. They don't go for mid-round picks unless only 1 team is bidding.
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Teams would offer then more then a "collection of mid round picks" because multiple teams would want him.

He's a 26 year old very good Top 4 Dman. They don't go for mid-round picks unless only 1 team is bidding.
Meh, I think he goes for something like 2 2nd's.
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:46 AM   #32
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What moves do they make in the off-season?

Who is on the roster opening night?

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Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-E. Kane
Stajan-Jankowski-Lazar

Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Alzner
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Grubauer
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Evander is bad news for any dressing room. Just ask Byfuglien.
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:52 AM   #33
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Matthew Tkachuk - Sam Bennett - Kris Versteeg
Taylor Hall- Sean Monahan - Micheal Ferland
Lazar - Mikael Backlund - Michael Frolik
Morgan Klimchuk - Jankowski - Ryan Reaves

Gio Hamilton
Brodie Stone
Andersson Stephen Johns (Dallas)

Cory Schneider
John Gillies

Gaudreau and Brouwer to NJ for Hall and Schneider
Pay Vegas to take Stajan
Bouma traded for Ryan Reaves
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Matthew Tkachuk - Sam Bennett - Kris Versteeg
Taylor Hall- Sean Monahan - Micheal Ferland
Lazar - Mikael Backlund - Michael Frolik
Morgan Klimchuk - Jankowski - Ryan Reaves

Gio Hamilton
Brodie Stone
Andersson Stephen Johns (Dallas)

Cory Schneider
John Gillies

Gaudreau and Brouwer to NJ for Hall and Schneider
Pay Vegas to take Stajan
Bouma traded for Ryan Reaves
This will not be popular. Are we sowing the seeds for a Flames fan civil war with keep Johnny/trade Johnny camps? This summer could be fun.
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Old 04-20-2017, 10:42 AM   #35
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Johnny and Mony are our franchise players. There's no way they're going anywhere. If anything, I think it was great for them to experience how much it sucks getting swept. You have to know how to lose in order to win. You don't trade your developing young core pieces.
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Matthew Tkachuk - Sam Bennett - Kris Versteeg
Taylor Hall- Sean Monahan - Micheal Ferland
Lazar - Mikael Backlund - Michael Frolik
Morgan Klimchuk - Jankowski - Ryan Reaves

Gio Hamilton
Brodie Stone
Andersson Stephen Johns (Dallas)

Cory Schneider
John Gillies

Gaudreau and Brouwer to NJ for Hall and Schneider
Pay Vegas to take Stajan
Bouma traded for Ryan Reaves
Taylor Hall is the biggest loser in the NHL, I don't care if he comes with Schneider. Dumb player, takes the last quarter of the year off every season, doesn't play a 200 foot game, and has never had a sniff of the post season at the NHL level. That is before I mention trading away one of the most skilled players in the NHL to get him. Crazy.
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Taylor Hall is the biggest loser in the NHL, I don't care if he comes with Schneider. Dumb player, takes the last quarter of the year off every season, doesn't play a 200 foot game, and has never had a sniff of the post season at the NHL level. That is before I mention trading away one of the most skilled players in the NHL to get him. Crazy.
Taylor Hall??! hahahahaha The Oilers would have won the trade if they traded him for a 5th rounder.
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Old 04-20-2017, 10:55 AM   #38
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Tkachuk - Bennett - Ferland
Gaudreau - Monahan - XXX
Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik
Bouma - Stajan - Lazar
Hathaway

Gio - Hamilton
Brodie - Stone
Kulak - Andersson

I really have no clue who will be with Johnny and Monahan. Hope I'm pleasantly surprised.

Not a fan of the 4th line but not sure what else you can do.
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Old 04-20-2017, 10:56 AM   #39
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Gaudreau-Monahan-Iginla
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Ferland
Lazar-Jankowski-Chiasson

Gio-Hamilton
Brodie-Stone
Engelland-Kulak
Bartkowski

Bishop
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Gaudreau/Monahan/Ferland
Tkachuk/Backlund/Frolik
Jankowski/Bennett/Versteeg
Bouma/Stajan/Lazar

This is the forward group I see. Brouwer ends up in LV and nobody is trading for Stajan or Bouma given their contracts.


Gio/Hamilton
Brodie/Stone
Andersson/Bartkowski
Kulak

Bart has played well enough as a 5-6 guy and Rasmus is ready. Kulak stays as the extra and Stone is back.


Fleury
Johnson

It was rumoured earlier this year that Fleury had Calgary as one of the teams he would not move to. I think Fleury at this point just wants a starting role on a team that isn't basement material. As much sense as it makes for him to force the Pens to buy him out I don't think that is happening. He has a great relationship with the organization and I think he will waive to come here. Even if he does get bought out his choices will be very limited, actually probably to two teams, Dallas and Calgary. I think Dallas has their sights on Ben Bishop. If he accepts the trade here on his current contract it becomes almost a perfect timeline with two years left and Gillies/Parsons in the wings. Johnson is a more than adequate backup who will come back on the cheap while Gillies hones his craft in the AHL.
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