06-21-2017, 09:39 AM
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#41
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Aw, goalies steal your heart, don't they?
My guess is that he ends up on Drury Lane somewhere.
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06-21-2017, 09:42 AM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nickk382
Man, I feel like Smith is going to disappoint you guys. Don't get me wrong, I really hope not.
Can't wait for this forum to blow up about him staying in his net and quit playing with the puck.
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After the last couple of seasons of preposterously bad goaltending all Smith has to do is not epically suck and he'll be a home-run.
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06-21-2017, 09:42 AM
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#43
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Is he done in Calgary for sure? He can still be the backup IMO if he were to take on less than what he made when he signed on with Calgary. Yeah, his first year was a failed attempt but I think hes still got what it takes to be a pretty damn good goalie.
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06-21-2017, 09:43 AM
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#44
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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I just want the days to be over when there is a shot on goal from any distance or angle and I cringe because I am not sure if there will be a big juicy rebound or another fluky goal for the other team. It gets painful after a while.
Elliott was good and saved our season, crapping the bed in the playoffs, just inexcusable IMO. Maybe another season here could have helped him become more comfortable, who knows. I think we will see some growing pains to start the season with Smith, no matter what just until he gets used to playing with his new teammates.
Thank you Brian for coming in and helping us make the playoffs in your first season, at times you were a rock. I hope he lands somewhere and gets another shot.
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06-21-2017, 09:46 AM
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#45
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by t0rrent98
Is he done in Calgary for sure? He can still be the backup IMO if he were to take on less than what he made when he signed on with Calgary. Yeah, his first year was a failed attempt but I think hes still got what it takes to be a pretty damn good goalie.
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As stated before, it would cost us a 3rd round pick to re-sign him. That would make that option far less likely.
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06-21-2017, 09:49 AM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foshizzle11
I just want the days to be over when there is a shot on goal from any distance or angle and I cringe because I am not sure if there will be a big juicy rebound or another fluky goal for the other team. It gets painful after a while.
Elliott was good and saved our season, crapping the bed in the playoffs, just inexcusable IMO. Maybe another season here could have helped him become more comfortable, who knows. I think we will see some growing pains to start the season with Smith, no matter what just until he gets used to playing with his new teammates.
Thank you Brian for coming in and helping us make the playoffs in your first season, at times you were a rock. I hope he lands somewhere and gets another shot.
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The season likely wouldnt have needed saving if he hadnt stumbled out of the gates like a drunk on New Year's.
He likely will land somewhere, I'm sure he'll be fine, but hes probably looking at a backup position for likely less money than he'd prefer.
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06-21-2017, 09:53 AM
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#47
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muffins
As stated before, it would cost us a 3rd round pick to re-sign him. That would make that option far less likely.
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Oh right, I forgot about the Conditional pick we traded to get him.
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06-21-2017, 10:06 AM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The C-spot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
The team also set a record and at the end of the day were still a wildcard team that was swept in the first round. Elliott did not steal games during that run. He played very well during that stretch but so did the whole group
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We don't beat Pittsburgh without Elliott standing on his head in OT and the shootout.
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06-21-2017, 10:08 AM
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#49
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Franchise Player
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Hopefully both Elliott and the Flames organization learned something from this experience and can apply that knowledge in future play and dealings. It's too bad it didn't work out as planned/expected for both sides.
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06-21-2017, 10:15 AM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
The team also set a record and at the end of the day were still a wildcard team that was swept in the first round. Elliott did not steal games during that run. He played very well during that stretch but so did the whole group
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My point is that you could say the same about Vernon's previous record. I don't think Johnson sets the record in that stretch.
Anyway, during that streak he had save% above .940 7 times. He had two shutouts. He faced over 35 shots 4 times. 2 goals or less in 8 games.
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06-21-2017, 10:16 AM
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#51
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Franchise Player
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Without him, Flames miss playoffs. Unfortunately this is a team that should be aspiring for more than just making playoffs and he fell flat in the playoffs.
I wish so bad he could have worked out but those are the breaks. Good luck in the future Moose.
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06-21-2017, 10:22 AM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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Flames may regret this one. Smith over Elliot is a downgrade in goaltending IMHO.
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06-21-2017, 10:29 AM
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#53
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Scoring Winger
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Does the 3rd round compensation pick count ONLY if the Flames sign him?
What if Vegas (or any other random team) signs him for a deal that the Flames agree to, and then they flip him to CGY for a 5-7th round pick? Win for the other team, and Flames... not so much for Blues.
Guess it's more a question of wording of compensation clauses, and if a team is willing to burn a bridge to go through a potential loophole.
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06-21-2017, 10:32 AM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daredevil
Does the 3rd round compensation pick count ONLY if the Flames sign him?
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06-21-2017, 10:32 AM
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#55
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rocky Mt House
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Hard not to feel bad for Brian. Really tough way to end a season, and more importantly, a contract. Pretty easy to see there was very little chance of him coming back though.
Hope he rebounds well.
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pun intentional?
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06-21-2017, 10:49 AM
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#56
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lubicon
Flames may regret this one. Smith over Elliot is a downgrade in goaltending IMHO.
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Well, the numbers from last season for both goalies would suggest that you are probably wrong. I think at worst this is a lateral move. It is a slight upgrade in that Smith's MD and HD SP are very good, he handles the puck well, and he is a known commodity who can play well in the course of +55 games.
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06-21-2017, 11:00 AM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lubicon
Flames may regret this one. Smith over Elliot is a downgrade in goaltending IMHO.
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I dont see that at all, Elliott was wild. He was either amazing or terrible and again, probably cost more games than he stole.
Smith is proven that he can deliver what we need. Stability in net. A steady, veteran presence. Consistent performance.
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06-21-2017, 11:04 AM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Without him, Flames miss playoffs.
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That is impossible to say without knowing who we would have lieu of Elliott. Every opportunity has an opportunity cost as well.
I can't recall at this point who the other options were, besides Jones and Talbot (who we were outbid on).
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06-21-2017, 11:05 AM
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#59
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
My point is that you could say the same about Vernon's previous record. I don't think Johnson sets the record in that stretch.
Anyway, during that streak he had save% above .940 7 times. He had two shutouts. He faced over 35 shots 4 times. 2 goals or less in 8 games.
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He played well no doubt about it and was a key player during the streak but not the sole reason the team won 10 in a row and he was in net for 11 straight wins. He was however the sole reason the team lost game 3 (along with a BS high stick goal that counted).
I am not a really big fan of the Smith deal but did feel strongly that the team simply could not come back with Elliott next year. He finished with a very average .910 which is the result of him going .930 for a huge stretch and .890 for a huge stretch. Never has been a legit starter always a 1a/b type.
Elliott might be sad to leave the team but I am happy they moved on. Wish him well wherever he goes unless he plays the Flames
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06-21-2017, 11:06 AM
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#60
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Ultimately our other option was Bishop, but at the expense of the 6th (Tkachuk).
Flames are better off today.
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