06-09-2017, 12:18 AM
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#61
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Originally Posted by TheFlamesVan
No, just someone who doesn't value a fat contract over my families desires.
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No, you're somebody who can't see why anybody else would make a different choice from the one you imagine yourself making.
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06-09-2017, 08:48 AM
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#62
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by ToewsFan
What happened to Ottawa, Toronto, and Buffalo?
I guess with one good season, everything can change. Winnipeg will make the playoffs next year, so they could move up from the bottom. Edmonton will continue to rise, as long as they are doing well. I can see Buffalo falling back into the bottom five, if they fail to do anything. The Islanders, with the fact that they may be homeless, could move them into the #1 spot. If Karmanos sells the Canes to a city outside the Carolinas (i.e. Quebec) that could move the team into the top 3. Ottawa will no doubt be back in the bottom five if they recede and miss the playoffs. Once ownership is stabilized, Arizona will be off the list.
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I don't see it as a given that the Jets will make the playoffs next year. They play in what is arguably the toughest division in the League and have a fairly marginal defence and a hole in goal. They look to be the very definition of a bubble team, and I don't believe that anything short of becoming a perennial Cup contender will do anything to improve their reputation as a terrible destination for UFAs. It may not be fair, but the Jets have a massive obstacle in this regard that dwarfs even other (not as) small market Canadian teams like Edmonton, Ottawa, and Calgary.
Last edited by Textcritic; 06-09-2017 at 09:19 AM.
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06-09-2017, 08:53 AM
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#63
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Retired
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Back in Guelph
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
No, you're somebody who can't see why anybody else would make a different choice from the one you imagine yourself making.
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I kind of feel like this is how you view the players Wives.
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06-09-2017, 09:22 AM
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#64
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
You're assuming that a player is going to receive exactly the same contract no matter which team he chooses to play for, and whether or not he also holds out for a no-trade clause. That's a mighty big assumption.
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It's not a big assumption to think that a player will have more than one offer at a similar price.
But the conversation was initially about modified NTCs. So there's no assumption about how much the player will be making - it's the same (before taxes). Then it comes down to lifestyle and team.
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06-09-2017, 03:24 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
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I'll be surprised if Edmonton would be one of the least favorable places to play for in the upcoming years. I think going forward, the Oilers will be a Cup contender and a championship team within the next few years. Even if McDavid asks to be traded, the Oilers will still gain back back talent to keep the team moving forward. As much as I hate saying it, the Oilers truly won the biggest jackpot in history besides the Pens.
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06-09-2017, 04:12 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlamesVan
I kind of feel like this is how you view the players Wives.
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You're wrong.
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06-11-2017, 01:22 AM
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#67
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by CSharp
I'll be surprised if Edmonton would be one of the least favorable places to play for in the upcoming years. I think going forward, the Oilers will be a Cup contender and a championship team within the next few years. Even if McDavid asks to be traded, the Oilers will still gain back back talent to keep the team moving forward. As much as I hate saying it, the Oilers truly won the biggest jackpot in history besides the Pens.
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This is false.
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06-11-2017, 01:27 AM
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#68
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Oilers will be lucky to make the play-offs again next year.
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06-11-2017, 09:12 AM
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#69
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Franchise Player
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Even if they are good, the Oilers are still going to be in the lists because Edmonton
Same with Winnipeg
It's not as though players won't agree to go there, but a lot of these lists are just places you want the choice of living there. Don't want to have no choice, especially those with a family that are from an American city or even just a major city
Same with some Midwest US places as well, it's just preference that people generally like to live on the coasts
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06-11-2017, 10:21 AM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Oilers will be lucky to make the play-offs again next year.
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They will probably face more obstacles in that it's hard to imagine them going injury free in their forward group (already a key injury on defense) again and the schedule will be more difficult and teams in general will be more prepared to face them as they won't catch anyone off guard. Oilers fans and media are going to have big expectations and it's easier to win when you are having fun without the burden of high expectations but the fun will end for them next season. If Talbot has any struggles or gets injured for a while they will be in massive trouble.
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06-11-2017, 10:42 AM
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#71
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by d_phaneuf
Even if they are good, the Oilers are still going to be in the lists because Edmonton
Same with Winnipeg
It's not as though players won't agree to go there, but a lot of these lists are just places you want the choice of living there. Don't want to have no choice, especially those with a family that are from an American city or even just a major city
Same with some Midwest US places as well, it's just preference that people generally like to live on the coasts
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Calgary is just as likely(perhaps slightly less than Edm or Wpg) to be on that list as well, especially if you are used to an American or a major city.
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06-11-2017, 10:56 AM
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#72
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Blaster86
Oilers will be lucky to make the play-offs again next year.
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No, they'll be lucky to finish with as many points as they did this year, but they wouldn't be lucky to make the playoffs. Barring a catastrophic season they are a playoff team, likely jostling with Calgary for 2nd/3rd.
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06-11-2017, 10:58 AM
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#73
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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The guard is changing and Edmonton is clearly part of that, as well as Calgary. The Flames are a bit harder to read because of goaltending, but if I were to guess next seasons standings (obviously barring any major trades/shakeups)...
1. Anaheim
2. Edmonton
3. Calgary
4. San Jose
5. Los Angeles
6. Arizona
7. Vancouver
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06-11-2017, 11:00 AM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
The guard is changing and Edmonton is clearly part of that, as well as Calgary. The Flames are a bit harder to read because of goaltending, but if I were to guess next seasons standings (obviously barring any major trades/shakeups)...
1. Anaheim
2. Edmonton
3. Calgary
4. San Jose
5. Los Angeles
6. Arizona
7. Vancouver
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Agreed.
Foolish to suggest the Oil will struggle to make the playoffs next year. Also foolish to suggest the will win a championship soon.
It is what it is.
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06-11-2017, 12:04 PM
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#75
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Swap Edmonton and San Jose
And then after that swap Edmonton and LA.
That will be the standings.
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06-11-2017, 12:07 PM
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#76
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Yeah, I bet.
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06-11-2017, 01:33 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Swap Edmonton and San Jose
And then after that swap Edmonton and LA.
That will be the standings.
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Except Vancouver will finish in 8th.
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06-11-2017, 08:46 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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You have to admit it's pretty hard to predict the standings when right now, Matt Bartkowski is our 4th defenseman and our signed goalies have I believe one combined game of NHL experience.
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