08-10-2015, 10:23 AM
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#741
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by automaton 3
Not surprising.
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I am surprised it took so long, to be honest.
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08-10-2015, 10:24 AM
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#742
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!
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If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a Fire Exit. - Mitch Hedberg
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08-10-2015, 10:40 AM
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#743
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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08-10-2015, 10:46 AM
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#744
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
I am surprised it took so long, to be honest.
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When you have time, take the time to do it right. Don Fehr is a clown who I think is more interested in destroying pro sports than anything else, but he is nothing if not meticulous. And on something like this, he was going to make sure he files something as strong as possible.
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08-10-2015, 10:48 AM
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#745
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
When you have time, take the time to do it right. Don Fehr is a clown who I think is more interested in destroying pro sports more than anything else, but he is nothing if not meticulous. And on something like this, he was going to make sure he files something as strong as possible.
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Yeah fair enough, it just seemed odd that there wasn't even some statements saying "we disagree, and are in the process of compiling the information to show Mike is innocent" or maybe there was and I missed it.
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08-10-2015, 11:49 AM
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#746
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Yeah fair enough, it just seemed odd that there wasn't even some statements saying "we disagree, and are in the process of compiling the information to show Mike is innocent" or maybe there was and I missed it.
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I think it was almost assumed that it was coming. No real pressure for a statement, and he's not going to stir up interest with a premature press release without having facts. And in a case like this, nobody wants to be facing questions that they don't know the answer to, so why invite them
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08-10-2015, 12:14 PM
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#747
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Southern California
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I'm a little surprised that the NHLPA is inviting anything that will release the facts of this case. Maybe they think they can win without needing to disclose everything about what allegedly happened at the border and what allegedly alerted them to pull Richards aside in the first place.
I get that they had to fight it from a precedent standpoint, but It will be interesting to see how this is handled and how much is disclosed. I'm quite surprised Richards is OK with this. He must feel he has a really good attorney who can successfully seal some of the alleged evidence.
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08-10-2015, 12:19 PM
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#748
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Franchise Player
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I hope to god the NHLPA wins this case.
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08-10-2015, 12:20 PM
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#749
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Yeah fair enough, it just seemed odd that there wasn't even some statements saying "we disagree, and are in the process of compiling the information to show Mike is innocent" or maybe there was and I missed it.
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They have handled things perfectly as far as protecting the player goes. Releasing some chest pumping, unified statement early on in the process would have served to make headlines drawing more attention to a player who may or may not have a substance abuse problem. The entire story has kind of flown under the radar and even the news of the grievance has been pretty low key.
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08-10-2015, 12:20 PM
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#750
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Ice
I'm a little surprised that the NHLPA is inviting anything that will release the facts of this case. Maybe they think they can win without needing to disclose everything about what allegedly happened at the border and what allegedly alerted them to pull Richards aside in the first place.
I get that they had to fight it from a precedent standpoint, but It will be interesting to see how this is handled and how much is disclosed. I'm quite surprised Richards is OK with this. He must feel he has a really good attorney who can successfully seal some of the alleged evidence.
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For 20+ million dollars I'm sure he'll risk disclosing anything.
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08-10-2015, 12:21 PM
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#751
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Franchise Player
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I hope LA is stuck with Richards' contract for another year.
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08-10-2015, 12:22 PM
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#752
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
I'm a little surprised that the NHLPA is inviting anything that will release the facts of this case. Maybe they think they can win without needing to disclose everything about what allegedly happened at the border and what allegedly alerted them to pull Richards aside in the first place.
I get that they had to fight it from a precedent standpoint, but It will be interesting to see how this is handled and how much is disclosed. I'm quite surprised Richards is OK with this. He must feel he has a really good attorney who can successfully seal some of the alleged evidence.
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A greivance arbitration is way more private than a court case. And the NHLPA doesn't particularly care about Richards, as opposed to the precedent.
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08-10-2015, 12:24 PM
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#753
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
I'm a little surprised that the NHLPA is inviting anything that will release the facts of this case. Maybe they think they can win without needing to disclose everything about what allegedly happened at the border and what allegedly alerted them to pull Richards aside in the first place.
I get that they had to fight it from a precedent standpoint, but It will be interesting to see how this is handled and how much is disclosed. I'm quite surprised Richards is OK with this. He must feel he has a really good attorney who can successfully seal some of the alleged evidence.
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Why exactly would Richards not be okay with this? You make it sound like his involvement in an underground drug ring may be unearthed by the release of facts. Option B would have been being okay with his employer ripping up a contract worth millions of dollars of guaranteed earnings as well as unfairly being branded as a problem player which could influence future employment.
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08-10-2015, 01:11 PM
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#754
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
A greivance arbitration is way more private than a court case. And the NHLPA doesn't particularly care about Richards, as opposed to the precedent.
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No, but they wouldn't be filing a grievance without Richards' consent.
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08-10-2015, 01:20 PM
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#755
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
No, but they wouldn't be filing a grievance without Richards' consent.
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No, of course not. I was just replying to the notion that the NHLPA would try and protect Richards by not filing a grievance. It's frankly silly to think he would want to just roll over on this anyway.
As a matter of fact, I think Richards has to ask the NHLPA to file (I could be wrong about that).
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08-10-2015, 01:22 PM
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#756
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by NuclearFart
For 20+ million dollars I'm sure he'll risk disclosing anything.
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Couldn't he go with he has an addiction to pain killers and forgot he had them when crossing the border?
Employers are forced to help people with addictions, not sure how it works when they commit smuggling though. But again, if you are addicted to Heroin a crime is implied there as well.
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08-10-2015, 03:03 PM
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#757
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
I hope LA is stuck with Richards' contract for another year.
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Not only that, but I hope a lot worse happens to them for attempting to circumvent the cap or whatever....I don't know, I just hope they get a whole library thrown at them (not just the book).
Sick and tired of teams reaping the benefits of these long term contracts at the beginning, and then finding ways to weasel out of them down the road.
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08-10-2015, 03:09 PM
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#758
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Not only that, but I hope a lot worse happens to them for attempting to circumvent the cap or whatever....I don't know, I just hope they get a whole library thrown at them (not just the book).
Sick and tired of teams reaping the benefits of these long term contracts at the beginning, and then finding ways to weasel out of them down the road.
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The other side of the coin is that they restart negotiations with Calgary about a trade. Whatever happens I don't want him here and we no longer have the cap room to be making that sort of deal.
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08-10-2015, 03:43 PM
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#759
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
The other side of the coin is that they restart negotiations with Calgary about a trade. Whatever happens I don't want him here and we no longer have the cap room to be making that sort of deal.
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Zero chance he is traded here. Absolutely none, zilch.
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08-10-2015, 03:53 PM
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#760
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
The other side of the coin is that they restart negotiations with Calgary about a trade. Whatever happens I don't want him here and we no longer have the cap room to be making that sort of deal.
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Really? Even if Brad the Wizard Treliving took crazy pills one night and engaged in trade talk for Richards, we wouldn't have the cap space anyways.
Of all the wishes and concerns to possibly come out of this situation, this one is just baffling. Don't worry, this isn't happening because it simply can't.
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