10-24-2013, 11:26 AM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drury18
Roger Millions @RogMillions 57s
#Flames Baertschi gets plenty of skating in after full practice. #healthyscratch pic.twitter.com/pEmYdUkQR8
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10-24-2013, 11:27 AM
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#62
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Hells Bells
Baertschi a healthy scratch is a questionable decision to say the least IMO.
Cammalleri-Monahan-Hudler
Baertschi-Stajan-Stempniak
Glencross-Backlund-Jones
Galiardi-Colborne-Bouma/MacGrattan
Those are the lines I'd LOVE to see.
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First combo plays tonight. You'll probably get a chance to see the others at some point.
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10-24-2013, 11:28 AM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Roger Millions@RogMillions1m
#Flames Hartley on Baertschi. "Needs to work on all 3 zones." it's about commitment". he tells Sven to use B. Gallagher of MTL as example
Roger Millions@RogMillions1m
Hartley says Joe Colborne is getting rewards for Hard work. He was behind when arriving in YYC..now he's paid off for work. #Flames
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10-24-2013, 11:29 AM
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#64
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTeeks
Roger Millions@RogMillions1m
#Flames Hartley on Baertschi. "Needs to work on all 3 zones." it's about commitment". he tells Sven to use B. Gallagher of MTL as example
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Ridiculous.
Team is going to lose big tonight.
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10-24-2013, 11:29 AM
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#65
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
Trades need to happen very soon. Can't let Ward get his hands on Baertschi.
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Why not?
Sven has seen his ice time decrease during the season so far:
Oct 16 - 15:37
Oct 19 - 14:06
Oct 21 - 14:32
Oct 22 - 12:52
Send him to Abby, let him get 20-25 minutes on the top line, start getting more shots on the net (only has 2 in the last 4 games) and have Ward put him in PP and PK opportunities.
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10-24-2013, 11:29 AM
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#66
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Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTeeks
Roger Millions@RogMillions1m
#Flames Hartley on Baertschi. "Needs to work on all 3 zones." it's about commitment". he tells Sven to use B. Gallagher of MTL as example
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... you've got to be kidding me.
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10-24-2013, 11:35 AM
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#67
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: PEI
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Lets just sit the entire team and tell them to use Crosby/Chara/Lundqvist as examples.
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Last edited by Hells Bells; 10-24-2013 at 11:38 AM.
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10-24-2013, 11:35 AM
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#68
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drury18
Why not?
Sven has seen his ice time decrease during the season so far:
Oct 16 - 15:37
Oct 19 - 14:06
Oct 21 - 14:32
Oct 22 - 12:52
Send him to Abby, let him get 20-25 minutes on the top line, start getting more shots on the net (only has 2 in the last 4 games) and have Ward put him in PP and PK opportunities.
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Forwards don't develop under Troy Ward. They get turned into pluggers with zero confidence.
He'll get less PP and PK time than Olson on the Heat.
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10-24-2013, 11:39 AM
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#69
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Yeah, keep dressing Glencross and scratch Sven. Makes loads of sense.
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10-24-2013, 11:40 AM
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#70
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First Line Centre
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Coaches like some guys and don't like others. Baertschi's icetime seems to be going down despite a clear improvement in his defensive game. Now he is a healthy scratch.
I also think Baertschi deserves a bunch of credit for Monahans success. Which he isn't getting from the coaches.
I can't say I understand it or agree with it. But hopefully Baertschi can work his way into the coaches good books.
First Burke's criticism, than the shift of attention to Monahan, and now this. Tough season for a guy who I thought has been pretty good.
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10-24-2013, 11:43 AM
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#71
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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This is B.S., they seem to be harder on Sven then all the other players.
Against L.A. he was one of our hardest working players and played a good 200ft game, didn't see anything from the PHX game that warranted a healthy scratch.
Poor decision IMO. Although I do think Sven should look at B.Gallagher as a smaller player to emulate.
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10-24-2013, 11:45 AM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Sven and Jackman have nothing to do with each other unless you want Sven on the fourth line
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10-24-2013, 11:46 AM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Forwards don't develop under Troy Ward. They get turned into pluggers with zero confidence.
He'll get less PP and PK time than Olson on the Heat.
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You don't develop sitting in a pressbox either.
I get that Flames fans have some huge love for Sven that I can't quite figure out and feel he's beyond doing what most of the other prospects in our system have to do to make it, but really sending him to Abbotsford is by far better for him then sitting in a pressbox with negative press around him and all that. He will play there, he will play top minutes there and he will play in different situations.
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10-24-2013, 11:46 AM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Sven and Jackman have nothing to do with each other unless you want Sven on the fourth line
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Not entirely true
You could move Galiardi to the 4th line
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10-24-2013, 11:48 AM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Roger Millions@RogMillions16s
#Flames Baertschi didn't play for a while in Phx. "Kind of saw this coming." Says he has to look forward from today.
Roger Millions@RogMillions29s
#Flames Baertschi adds he been working on defensive game and working on the details to improve that aspect of the game.
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10-24-2013, 11:52 AM
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#76
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: PEI
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Just watch Jackman tonight Sven, that is what an NHLer looks like.
Watch him skate around, fumble with the puck a few times, take a moronic penalty or two and perhaps fall down a couple times. If for some reason he decides to drop his gloves, he will get his @$$ handed to him by any and all takers.
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10-24-2013, 11:52 AM
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#77
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Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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I hate the "every player needs to play all 3 zones" argument. What about Butler, 9 games with 0 points, shouldn't he be benched for not being offensive enough?
Sven and Sean have chemistry, coach wants to brake them up... Still think Hartley is the right coach?
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10-24-2013, 11:53 AM
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#78
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Scoring Winger
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Oh god. CP meltdown incoming.
Ashasx claiming a big loss tonight because of no Sven, that'd be a big lol, probably would make Ashass happy though.
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10-24-2013, 11:54 AM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Roger Millions@RogMillions3m
Baertschi just wants to play. Was looking forward to playing in Dallas. Says he won't get upset about this. Wants to move past this today.
Roger Millions@RogMillions2m
Full marks to Sven. He was upfront with the media. Sincere and honest. Tough day. I respect him a great deal. Hard not to like.
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10-24-2013, 11:54 AM
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#80
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Baertschi has been more effective than Jackman and Colborne
And he has worked harder than Glencross
Icetime has to be earned, but you also have to let kids play and grow (assuming they've earned it, which he has)
They are destroying his creativity and seem to be determined to turn him into a 3rd liner. It's sad to watch.
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