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Old 09-29-2014, 06:37 PM   #61
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At least Henry the 8th and France can refer to their use of it in the past tense.
1977, an eon ago eh!
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I love how we North Americans know how to kill people humanely. Dropping bombs on innocent people and killing 150,000 innocent civilians was so humane. A few beheadings and a billion people are painted with the same brush.
Don't forget our friends to the South are still legally allowed to execute their own citizens.
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1977, an eon ago eh!
Is almost 40 years ago not past tense?
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Is almost 40 years ago not past tense?
So's last week. I doubt that's what you meant though
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well you got me there
Never underestimate mans capacity for barbarity! I remember the couple of guiloteenings from the 70's, Spain was even worse, they garrotte their prisoners, as in strapped to a post with a knife blade at neck height then they use a windlass around the neck to push the knife through the spine, again they were doing that up until the 70's as I recall.
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I love how we North Americans know how to kill people humanely. Dropping bombs on innocent people and killing 150,000 innocent civilians was so humane. A few beheadings and a billion people are painted with the same brush.
Nothing wrong with using bombs. Quick, to the point and no suffering.
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Nothing wrong with using bombs. Quick, to the point and no suffering.
really? you think people die instantly from a bomb? I'm sure some do, and many, many more suffer in their death.
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Nothing wrong with using bombs. Quick, to the point and no suffering.
You might want to look up flachette munitions, the us still uses them
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Don't you realize that in PIMking's world every violent crime committed by a Muslim is a religious act while every violent crime committed by a non-Muslim is nothing more than a crime.

Haters gotta hate and those who demonize an entire group of people for the acts of a statistically insignificant minority are the very definition of Haters.

Lets see what's happened on US soil in recent history done by Muslims towards the "infidel" americans.

1. 9/11
2. Boston bombing
3. beheading in Oklahoma...

The Koran is such a peaceful book that preaches killing those who don't convert to islam. It's prophet ordered 800 beheading while he and his 12 year old wife watched.

Then our "president" says ISIS (ISIL) isn't islamic?

yeah, they're trying to cast muslims in the best light possible.

Now, 99% of the muslim community isn't a nut case like these terrorists but when another muslim does something stupid towards innocent civilians we're told not to judge muslims by the actions of a few. Yet when a shooting happens our government and liberals go to full knee jerk reactions and try to punish and blame all gun owners.

Tell me that isn't true!

I am so tired of Religious zealots doing stupid crap for their "god"

I bet ISIS loves knowing that a woman is dropping bombs on their worthless ass's. You know the religion of peace that keeps women down....
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Lets see what's happened on US soil in recent history done by Muslims towards the "infidel" americans.

1. 9/11
2. Boston bombing
3. beheading in Oklahoma...

The Koran is such a peaceful book that preaches killing those who don't convert to islam. It's prophet ordered 800 beheading while he and his 12 year old wife watched.

Then our "president" says ISIS (ISIL) isn't islamic?

yeah, they're trying to cast muslims in the best light possible.

Now, 99% of the muslim community isn't a nut case like these terrorists but when another muslim does something stupid towards innocent civilians we're told not to judge muslims by the actions of a few. Yet when a shooting happens our government and liberals go to full knee jerk reactions and try to punish and blame all gun owners.

Tell me that isn't true!

I am so tired of Religious zealots doing stupid crap for their "god"

I bet ISIS loves knowing that a woman is dropping bombs on their worthless ass's. You know the religion of peace that keeps women down....

Why is president in qoutes?


Beyond that, you should push away from the keyboard.
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Lets see what's happened on US soil in recent history done by Muslims towards the "infidel" americans...
Making a point of contrast between Muslims and Americans is constructing a false dichotomy. There are millions of American Muslims who have every much the same right as you to feel violated by assaults on their country.

...and we are still waiting to discover if there is any connection at all between the last assailant's religious beliefs and his actions.
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Making a point of contrast between Muslims and Americans is constructing a false dichotomy. There are millions of American Muslims who have every much the same right as you to feel violated by assaults on their country.

...and we are still waiting to discover if there is any connection at all between the last assailant's religious beliefs and his actions.

pfffft what do you know, you struggle with a washing machine.........
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Lets see what's happened on US soil in recent history done by Muslims towards the "infidel" americans.

1. 9/11
2. Boston bombing
3. beheading in Oklahoma...

The Koran is such a peaceful book that preaches killing those who don't convert to islam. It's prophet ordered 800 beheading while he and his 12 year old wife watched.

Then our "president" says ISIS (ISIL) isn't islamic?

yeah, they're trying to cast muslims in the best light possible.

Now, 99% of the muslim community isn't a nut case like these terrorists but when another muslim does something stupid towards innocent civilians we're told not to judge muslims by the actions of a few. Yet when a shooting happens our government and liberals go to full knee jerk reactions and try to punish and blame all gun owners.

Tell me that isn't true!

I am so tired of Religious zealots doing stupid crap for their "god"

I bet ISIS loves knowing that a woman is dropping bombs on their worthless ass's. You know the religion of peace that keeps women down....
I don't think you have ever picked up a Koran in your life. Maybe you should, you'll learn a lot.

The Koran and Bible have a lot of similarities and for every 'evil' phrase in the Koran, you can find an equivalent one in the Bible as well.

Did you know that Jesus and Mary are both in the Koran? In some sections, the Koran seems way more rational than the Bible even.

So please, educate yourself before spewing that pile of BS.

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I don't think PIMking is an advocate of christianity either. He's not doing a "the bible is better". In fact he didn't mention christianity once in his post.
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Lets see what's happened on US soil in recent history done by Muslims towards the "infidel" americans.

1. 9/11
2. Boston bombing
3. beheading in Oklahoma...

The Koran is such a peaceful book that preaches killing those who don't convert to islam. It's prophet ordered 800 beheading while he and his 12 year old wife watched.

Then our "president" says ISIS (ISIL) isn't islamic?

yeah, they're trying to cast muslims in the best light possible.

Now, 99% of the muslim community isn't a nut case like these terrorists but when another muslim does something stupid towards innocent civilians we're told not to judge muslims by the actions of a few. Yet when a shooting happens our government and liberals go to full knee jerk reactions and try to punish and blame all gun owners.

Tell me that isn't true!

I am so tired of Religious zealots doing stupid crap for their "god"

I bet ISIS loves knowing that a woman is dropping bombs on their worthless ass's. You know the religion of peace that keeps women down....
undercoverbrother, Textcritic, Iggy City and nik have all provided excellent responses to your post so I'll just reply to your post by reframing something you wrote.

Lets see what's happened on US soil in recent history done by non-Muslim Americans to Americans.

1. Aug. 3, 2010
8 killed, 2 injured: Manchester, Conn.
Omar S. Thornton, 34, a driver for Hartford Distributors, emerges from a disciplinary hearing and begins shooting, killing eight people at the family-owned distributorship and then himself.

2. Jan. 8, 2011
6 killed, 11 injured: Tucson, Ariz.
Jared Lee Loughner, 22, allegedly shoots Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in the head during a meet-and-greet with constituents at a Tucson supermarket. Six people are killed and 11 others wounded. Loughner is identified by witnesses as the gunman who fired at close range with semiautomatic pistol before being tackled.

3. Oct. 12, 2011
8 killed, 1 injured: Seal Beach, Calif.
Scott Dekraai, 41, apparently enraged over a custody dispute, allegedly walks into a crowded Seal Beach hair salon where his former wife works and opens fire. Eight people are killed, including a man sitting in a truck outside the salon. Another person is critically wounded.

4. April 2, 2012
7 killed, 3 injured: Oakland
One L. Goh, 43, a former student at a Oikos University, a small Christian college, allegedly opens fire in the middle of a classroom leaving seven people dead and three wounded.

5. Aug. 5, 2012
6 killed, 3 injured: Oak Creek, Wis.
Wade Michael Page fatally shoots six people at a Sikh temple before he is shot by a police officer. Page, an Army veteran who was a “psychological operations specialist,” committed suicide after he was wounded.

Page was a member of a white supremacist band called End Apathy and his views led federal officials to treat the shooting as an act of domestic terrorism.

6. Sept. 28, 2012
6 killed, 2 injured: Minneapolis, Minn.
Andrew Engeldinger, 36, breaks into a sign company’s offices and opens fire, killing the owner and five others before turning the gun on himself. Engeldinger had been fired from Accent Signage Systems, a small company that specializes in making interior signs that comply with the Americans With Disabilities Act, including signs in Braille for the blind.

7. Dec. 14, 2012
27 killed, one injured: Newtown, Conn.
A gunman forces his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. and shoots and kills 20 first graders and six adults. The shooter, Adam Lanza, 20, kills himself at the scene. Lanza also killed his mother at the home they shared, prior to his shooting rampage. In emotional remarks from the White House, President Obama wiped away tears. “Our hearts are broken today,” the president said.

8. June 7, 2013
5 killed: Santa Monica
John Zawahri, an unemployed 23-year-old, kills five people in an attack that starts at his father’s home and ends at Santa Monica College, where he is fatally shot by police in the school’s library.

9. Sept. 16, 2013
13 killed, 3 injured: Washington, D.C.
A shoot#er who en#gaged po#lice in a run#ning fire#fight through the sprawl#ing Wash#ing#ton Navy Yard is shot and killed.

At least 13 people including the shooter are killed in the rampage that began approximately 8:15 a.m. at the Navy Yard, a huge complex of buildings along Washington’s Anacostia River waterfront. The shooter is later identified as Aaron Alexis, a Navy contractor and former Navy enlisted man from Fort Worth.

10. April 2, 2014
3 killed; 16 injured: Ft. Hood, Texas
A gunman at Fort Hood, the scene of a deadly 2009 rampage, kills three people and injures 16 others, according to military officials. The gunman is dead at the scene.

11. May 23, 2014
7 dead, 7 wounded: Isla Vista, Calif.
A gunman opens fire in the UC Santa Barbara campus town of Isla Vista from inside a black BMW. The gunman was killed during the shooting rampage. Law enforcement sources identified Elliot Rodger as the preliminary suspect. Investigators believe the gunman acted alone and are analyzing a threatening video and written evidence that suggests the killings were premeditated.

So that's in the US only.

But it's those darn Muslims that are so dangerous.
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I love how we North Americans know how to kill people humanely. Dropping bombs on innocent people and killing 150,000 innocent civilians was so humane. A few beheadings and a billion people are painted with the same brush.
Not sure anyone has said that North Americans know how to kill humanely, or that the don't kill at all. Likewise, no one is saying Christians haven't killed in god's name. It really isn't an answer to the problem. As an athiest, it is all nonsense to me.
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I honestly believe that anyone that takes a book written by man and reads it as a literally road map to "heaven" is a moron. But this is where we have religious zealots killing in the name of "god"
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I honestly believe that anyone that takes a book written by man and reads it as a literally road map to "heaven" is a moron. But this is where we have religious zealots killing in the name of "god"

You appear to use quotation marks like I use commas, just chuck them in any old time you want, that was it looks like you are trying.
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Nothing wrong with using bombs. Quick, to the point and no suffering.
Gonna have to call out the bs on this one.

Go to a site like liveleak or similar, and you can see the suffering of people with limbs blown off, and half of their faces missing, and their entrails hanging out from quick, painless bombs. Not the watered down edited out versions you get on CNN where people are just numbers on a chart.

If you aren't at ground zero of the explosion, you are in a world of hurt.
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