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Old 01-12-2017, 03:26 PM   #2181
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Game of Thrones was initially published in 1996.

EDIT: Whoops, misread that you started it in the early aughts. My bad.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:40 PM   #2182
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I think the show passing the books should take a bunch of pressure off of him. At first people were really all over him to finish. Which may be helpful for Martin because he has said in the past that the pressure of writing is one of the causes for delays and that he has a habit of writing stuff then going back and changing it.

At this point I think most people aren't too worried about it. It has been so long, eventually it becomes hard to care too much when the delays add up. And if that means someone else finishes the books, I guess we have to deal with it.

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Old 06-21-2017, 06:42 PM   #2183
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HBO trolling Lady Stoneheart fans with the newest TV trailer?

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Old 06-21-2017, 10:06 PM   #2184
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HBO trolling Lady Stoneheart fans with the newest TV trailer?

How's that? He had the flaming sword in his battle against the Hound
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Old 06-22-2017, 08:40 AM   #2185
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Man I am so glad they re cast that character and kept him alive in the show.

Imagine this dweeb with that sword, not nearly as cool:

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Old 06-22-2017, 12:04 PM   #2186
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How's that? He had the flaming sword in his battle against the Hound
Just that without Lady Stoneheart there really isn't any reason for Dondarrion and his merry band of misfits to be in the show is there? There some reasons to think that LS would be in the show at various points, but that never happened, I think HBO keeps him around to keep the LS fans salty now EDIT: Other than I guess a flaming sword, which for a TV show is probably sufficient.
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:48 PM   #2187
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Pretty clear shot of the Hound, Beric and Jon fighting back to back against the white walkers in the trailer, so I guess the reason they kept them around was to send them North..
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Old 06-22-2017, 01:28 PM   #2188
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Things I want to play out before the end of the series:
  • Arya kills Littlefinger
  • Jamie kills Cersei
  • Jon and Tyrion ride dragons
  • Bran wargs into a dragon
  • Hound and Mountain throwdown
  • Sansa and Arya reunite and reconcile
  • Dany reunites the seven kingdoms and gets the Iron Throne
  • I can't think of anything involving Dorne or the Iron Islands
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:51 PM   #2189
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I want the Night's King on the Iron Throne

edit: god dammit, I posted this in the book nerds thread.

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Old 06-23-2017, 11:10 AM   #2190
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The ultimate "everything is terrible" ending would be Littlefinger on the throne. I'd be furious and love it at the same time.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:17 PM   #2191
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Well, it wouldn't be a GoT season without posters frothing at the mouth over "book readers"...

Euron Greyjoy is going to find a gift to woo the woman who has everything... That must be a lead in to revealing Dragonbinder, and his plan to steal a dragon, right?
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:45 PM   #2192
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I mean, that's probably going to be the direction it goes -- but that also would seem weird, since there's been no build up to it. I'm interested to see where the show goes with this thread as everything else accelerates to the series finale.
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Old 08-28-2017, 03:24 PM   #2193
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So with things coming to a climax, I was thinking about some of the prophesies. I put this here because I'm not sure all of this lore was included in the show.

Cercei and Maggy the Frog:
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Cersei: Will the king and I have children?
Maggy: Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you. Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds, she said. And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.
All of Maggy's prophesies have come true. This would say that Cercei will not have another child, so is she lying or simply will she die before she can give birth. The sacond part; "valongar" is High Valarian for "little brother". So it would seem to me that Tyrion will kill Cercei. Jamie is the younger twin, but since he is missing a hand and the prophesy says "hands", Tyrion it is.

Then I started thinking about the other prominent prophesy - the House of The Undying.
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A beautiful, naked woman being ravished by four little men who resemble the dwarf servitor.
A feast of slaughtered corpses holding cups, spoons, and food, with a dead man with a wolf's head sitting on a throne wearing an iron crown, apparently foreshadowing the Red Wedding.
Daenerys' childhood home with the red door in Braavos.
A throne room with dragon skulls on the walls where a king resembling Aerys II Targaryen sits on a barbed throne and appears to give the order to burn the Red Keep during the Sack of King's Landing.
A room where a silver-haired man (presumably Rhaegar Targaryen) names his son Aegon, says the child is "the prince that was promised", then plays a harp.
A "splendor of wizards" who falsely claim to be the Undying of Qarth and offer to teach Daenerys the secret speech of dragonkind.
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http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php...of_the_Undying

So with the ominous Tyrion boat scene, is he going to betray Dani? Has he already done so in the discussion with Cercei we couldn't see?
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https://sports.yahoo.com/george-r-r-...163708418.html

GRRM interviewed about The Winds of Winter and another series about House Targaryen.
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Old 02-16-2018, 10:26 AM   #2195
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Meh whatever, I'm at the acceptance stage. I'd rather him enjoy what he writes instead of being forced to finish and publishing a mediocre book.

Brandon Sanderson is my go to fantasy author for now haha.
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Old 02-16-2018, 12:25 PM   #2196
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It should be clear by now to even the most unwaveringly optimistic fanboy that GRRM has come to hate writing the Song of Ice and Fire books. He'll seize on any project in preference to Winds of Winter. Classic tactics of someone putting off something they dread.
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Old 02-16-2018, 01:53 PM   #2197
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I think the best parts of ASOIAF are behind us anyway. It's pretty hard to beat what we have read so far and I personally though the last book was a big step down. Books 1-4 is how I will always remember this series. And if the next few books are going to be anything like where they took the TV show then I am fine with saving myself thousands of pages I would rather donate to authors who are still in love with their series.
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Old 02-16-2018, 02:20 PM   #2198
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I think the best parts of ASOIAF are behind us anyway. It's pretty hard to beat what we have read so far and I personally though the last book was a big step down. Books 1-4 is how I will always remember this series. And if the next few books are going to be anything like where they took the TV show then I am fine with saving myself thousands of pages I would rather donate to authors who are still in love with their series.
Same here. I used to be so excited hoping he'd put out another book, and now I'm pretty meh on the whole thing. I don't watch the TV show (I've stopped somewhere mid-season 6) so don't even care if he goes 'that way' either. It just doesn't have the interest to me that it used to.
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At this point, I expect Winds of Winter to be one page that only says, "You watched the show. Let's just say that's what happened." Followed by 800 blank pages.
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Not this year either boys (if at all really):

GRRM Confirms Winds of Winter Will Not Come Out in 2018

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2018/04/2...me-out-in-2018
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