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Old 03-24-2017, 12:53 PM   #41
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Why should anyone really be surprised here? Religion is at the root of all mankind's issues.
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Why should anyone really be surprised here? Religion is at the root of all mankind's issues.
Yeah, those religious zealots Caesar, Mao, Stalin and Hitler.
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Yeah, those religious zealots Caesar, Mao, Stalin and Hitler.
You win. The Commie-Nazis were bad.

The story at hand is some dumbass fundamentalist fools trying to turn back the clock today, in Alberta.

Let's leave the red menace out of it.
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You win. The Commie-Nazis were bad.

The story at hand is some dumbass fundamentalist fools trying to turn back the clock today, in RedAlberta.

Let's leave the red menace out of it.
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A number of my close friends and relatives are gay men, and I have found that as I mature, the boundaries of sexual identity and preference really seem to fade away into a common human understanding. I feel that is the way it is for most people. Of course, there are always people on both sides willing to sacrifice their humanity for the sake of a little publicity or whatever.
Is it really "as you mature" or is it "as society matures," and you happen to be maturing alongside? I ask because uncounted men and women before you have "matured" all the way through to their graves without ever questioning their faiths' interpretation of homosexuality. The only reason some people's minds are changing is because society as a whole is changing around them, and it's harder and harder to cling to something unacceptable.
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Yeah, those religious zealots Caesar, Mao, Stalin and Hitler.
I'm pretty sure Hitler was Catholic was he not? He also most certainly didn't like the Jews. Also he was involved in occult stuff which I lump in the same sort of fictitious nonsense as religion. What's the difference between believing in imaginary gods or the supernatural?
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I'm pretty sure Hitler was Catholic was he not? He also most certainly didn't like the Jews. Also he was involved in occult stuff which I lump in the same sort of fictitious nonsense as religion. What's the difference between believing in imaginary gods or the supernatural?
I believe he was Catholic. But he sure wasn't committing the atrocities in the name of religion. Nationalism and racism were his religion. He hated the race of Jews.

I'm not absolving religion of wrongdoings here, since religion has certainly had a bloody past, but I've heard people say things like "religion was the cause of all problems throughout history" and that's simply not true. Secular ideology can be just as dangerous.
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Yeah, those religious zealots Caesar, Mao, Stalin and Hitler.
Ya. Crazy how someone who isn't religious can find faults in religion. Religion is so bad, they've done nothing right in the last 3000 years and have done nothing to shape history.

Religion has evil people part of it just like Canada has evil people part of it or your work place or your community.

Hate it when anybody generalizes and says all religion is bad. They are just as bad as the anti gay crowd. Acceptance is acceptance, generalizing is generalizing weather by race, religion, gender etc.
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I believe he was Catholic. But he sure wasn't committing the atrocities in the name of religion. Nationalism and racism were his religion. He hated the race of Jews.

I'm not absolving religion of wrongdoings here, since religion has certainly had a bloody past, but I've heard people say things like "religion was the cause of all problems throughout history" and that's simply not true. Secular ideology can be just as dangerous.
Hitler and others used religion as an excuse to comitt their atrocities. Anyone can committ an atrocity and say God made me do it.
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That is absolutely NOT the case re: Hitler. He believed the Germanic peoples were superior to everyone, and that Aryans were ideal. So everyone else needed to be subdued, or die. The State was his God.

The thread digresses though.

Christians should treat everyone with dignity and respect, plain and simple.
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That is absolutely NOT the case re: Hitler. He believed the Germanic peoples were superior to everyone, and that Aryans were ideal. So everyone else needed to be subdued, or die. The State was his God.

The thread digresses though.

Christians should treat everyone with dignity and respect, plain and simple.
And so should the non religious regardless of their differences.
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:07 PM   #54
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I'm pretty sure Hitler was Catholic was he not? He also most certainly didn't like the Jews. Also he was involved in occult stuff which I lump in the same sort of fictitious nonsense as religion. What's the difference between believing in imaginary gods or the supernatural?
Hitler was raised a Catholic, but was openly hostile to the church, as he saw it as a rival to his power. He co-operated with the major churches when he had to, but ultimately sought to usurp them. He wanted to co-opt Christianity and remove it's power structure and many of its scriptures with Jewish roots. By the end the Nazis were full on persecuting the Catholic Church. When the nazis invaded a country, they would typically execute the higher ranking clergy. The Nazis' use of the word Christian had far more to do with ethnicity than ideology.
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I'd be interested to hear Texas Flames Fans opinion on this subject
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And so should the non religious regardless of their differences.
They should, though treating someone with respect doesn't mean one has to treat the ideas they subscribe to with respect. Some ideas are bad and should be opposed (regardless of if they originate from a religion or not).
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Its funny how inclusiveness is a one way street. I'm not religious, wasn't brought up religious, but the irony of some of the idiotic posts in this thread. Liberalism is great as long as its where you get to selectively apply it to , amirite?
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