Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-25-2014, 12:23 AM   #221
driveway
A Fiddler Crab
 
driveway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
Exp:
Default Gallagher: NHL expansion to Las Vegas is a 'done deal'

Nevada Silver ... Somethings ... Silverblades? Silver wolves? Nevada Silvers? Silver State Aces?

Or what about the Area 51 connection? Nevada Fighters? Nevada Blackbirds? Nevada Aliens? (Gross).
driveway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 01:02 AM   #222
corporatejay
Franchise Player
 
corporatejay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Exp:
Default

Rhinos
__________________
corporatejay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 01:07 AM   #223
getbak
Franchise Player
 
getbak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by corporatejay View Post
Rhinos
Only if their uniform's primary colour is spearmint green.
__________________
Turn up the good, turn down the suck!
getbak is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to getbak For This Useful Post:
Old 10-25-2014, 01:52 AM   #224
Neeper
Official CP Photographer
 
Neeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PL17
Exp:
Default

Las Vegas Sinners
Neeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 10:35 AM   #225
killer_carlson
Franchise Player
 
killer_carlson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Exp:
Default

Las Vegas Confession
__________________
"OOOOOOHHHHHHH those Russians" - Boney M
killer_carlson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 11:57 AM   #226
indes
First Line Centre
 
indes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sherwood Park, AB
Exp:
Default

Las Vegas Purge
indes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 01:23 PM   #227
Stanathan
Crash and Bang Winger
 
Stanathan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Exp:
Default

The Las Vegas Slots
Stanathan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 01:58 PM   #228
trew
Crash and Bang Winger
 
trew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Exp:
Default

I like:

Atoms
Rush
Jokers


The arena will *have* to be called "The House" though.
trew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 02:17 PM   #229
FlamesAddiction
Franchise Player
 
FlamesAddiction's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

It is too bad that Sharks is taken because that would have been perfect.

Aces seems the natural choice.

Jacks would sound OK to IMO.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
FlamesAddiction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 02:31 PM   #230
Rerun
Often Thinks About Pickles
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Okotoks
Exp:
Default

Not that crazy about having an NHL team in Nevada. They could probably afford it with all the casinos buying up tickets and boxes but the average person in LV probably can't.

In 2010, The median income for a household in the city was $53,000 and the median income for a family was $58,465. Males had a median income of $35,511 versus $27,554 for females. The per capita income for the city was $22,060.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Vegas

Plus their total population is only about 600,000

Their permanent fan base will probably be next to non-existent. More than likely if the Flames play there you'll probably see more Flames jerseys in the stands that LV jerseys.

Moneywise it might make sense, but that's the only reason I can see.
Rerun is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Rerun For This Useful Post:
Old 10-25-2014, 02:41 PM   #231
Antithesis
Disenfranchised
 
Antithesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rerun View Post
Not that crazy about having an NHL team in Nevada. They could probably afford it with all the casinos buying up tickets and boxes but the average person in LV probably can't.

In 2010, The median income for a household in the city was $53,000 and the median income for a family was $58,465. Males had a median income of $35,511 versus $27,554 for females. The per capita income for the city was $22,060.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Vegas

Plus their total population is only about 600,000

Their permanent fan base will probably be next to non-existent. More than likely if the Flames play there you'll probably see more Flames jerseys in the stands that LV jerseys.

Moneywise it might make sense, but that's the only reason I can see.
When it comes to American cities, you simply can not use the actual population within city limits to determine how many people live in an area. The Las Vegas metropolitan area is home to almost two million people, along with countless visitors each year.

There are many reasons why an NHL franchise may not work in Las Vegas, but your use of Las Vegas city population is not one of them.
Antithesis is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Antithesis For This Useful Post:
Old 10-25-2014, 02:46 PM   #232
Antithesis
Disenfranchised
 
Antithesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Exp:
Default

... and further, when you use that method to rank American cities based on population, you get some of the following absurd results:

Boston, population 645,000 (how's hockey working there?)
Dallas, population 1.25 million (about the same size as Calgary)
Columbus, population 822,000 (bigger than Boston and Miami!)
St. Louis and Pittsburgh, both populations slightly over 300,000
Antithesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 02:49 PM   #233
Rerun
Often Thinks About Pickles
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Okotoks
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antithesis View Post
When it comes to American cities, you simply can not use the actual population within city limits to determine how many people live in an area. The Las Vegas metropolitan area is home to almost two million people, along with countless visitors each year.

There are many reasons why an NHL franchise may not work in Las Vegas, but your use of Las Vegas city population is not one of them.
How big is this LV metropolitan area?

The further away from the arena, the less likely people would be willing to travel on a regular basis, as a STH, to see games.... especially since LV and its surrounding areas are not traditional hockey markets

But, assuming you are correct, I think the biggest deterent to a healthy fan base is the median income. Season tickets are expensive.

Last edited by Rerun; 10-25-2014 at 03:02 PM.
Rerun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 02:52 PM   #234
sharkov
Powerplay Quarterback
 
sharkov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Exp:
Default

How about lv gambits as a name?
__________________
"Half the GM's in the league would trade their roster for our roster right now..." Kevin Lowe in 2013
sharkov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 02:53 PM   #235
Antithesis
Disenfranchised
 
Antithesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rerun View Post
How big is this LV metropolitan area?

The further away from the arena, the less likely they would be willing to travel on a regular basis, as a STH, to see games.

But, assuming you are correct, I think the biggest deterent to a healthy fan base is the median income. Season tickets are expensive.
I couldn't find numbers in a quick Wiki search, but it basically includes Las Vegas, Paradise, and Henderson. It's one large contiguous area.

Last edited by Antithesis; 10-25-2014 at 02:56 PM.
Antithesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 02:54 PM   #236
DownhillGoat
Franchise Player
 
DownhillGoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Exp:
Default

So how reliable is this rumour? I don't doubt we'll see another expansion soon but I'll believe Vegas when I see it.

If there is a team there, I really hope they stay away from the gambling theme names. Seems way to hokey.
DownhillGoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 03:05 PM   #237
Sidney Crosby's Hat
Franchise Player
 
Sidney Crosby's Hat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kunkstyle View Post
So how reliable is this rumour? I don't doubt we'll see another expansion soon but I'll believe Vegas when I see it.

If there is a team there, I really hope they stay away from the gambling theme names. Seems way to hokey.
Bob McKenzie also said he sees a team in Las Vegas in the next five years. Usually he doesn't just throw statements out there.
Sidney Crosby's Hat is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Sidney Crosby's Hat For This Useful Post:
Old 10-25-2014, 03:09 PM   #238
Rerun
Often Thinks About Pickles
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Okotoks
Exp:
Default

Las Vegas would probably be the quietest arena in the NHL when the home team scores.
Rerun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 03:09 PM   #239
driveway
A Fiddler Crab
 
driveway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antithesis View Post
I couldn't find numbers in a quick Wiki search, but it basically includes Las Vegas, Paradise, and Henderson. It's one large contiguous area.
The Las Vegas Metro area, population around 2 million, is pretty much Clark County, which has an area of more than 20,000 square km, though the vast majority of the population is centred in the Las Vegas Valley, total area, 4,100 square km.

Calgary has a total area of 762 square km.

HOWEVER.

I believe that the combination of a) casinos buying boxes and b) the population of Las Vegas having a pro-sports team to call their own has the potential to be both butts-in-seats popular and lucrative.

The ultimate caveat will be on-ice success. If they Florida Panthers it, they'll be in Quebec City in ten years. If they become the new San Jose Sharks or Anaheim Ducks, they'll be in Vegas, and successful, for 30+ years.
driveway is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to driveway For This Useful Post:
Old 10-25-2014, 03:22 PM   #240
Reaper
Franchise Player
 
Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: I'm right behind you
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rerun View Post
Las Vegas would probably be the quietest arena in the NHL when the home team scores.
Instead of a goal horn they would play a loud recording of a slot machine paying out.
__________________
Don't fear me. Trust me.
Reaper is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Reaper For This Useful Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:11 AM.

Calgary Flames
2023-24




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021