04-19-2017, 04:55 PM
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Koivu, Bergeron, Kesler Named Selke finalists
Backlund got robbed
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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04-19-2017, 04:55 PM
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Nostradamus
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London Ont.
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Bs
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agggghhhhhh!!!
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04-19-2017, 04:55 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2015
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Backs got jobbed!
But at least Kadri didn't make the list....
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04-19-2017, 04:57 PM
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Don't click that link!
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I think Backlund did a great job but Bergeron and Kesler are on another level when it comes to shutting down other teams top guys.
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04-19-2017, 04:57 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Vancouver
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Bergeron probably
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04-19-2017, 04:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alan21
I think Backlund did a great job but Bergeron and Kesler Arron another level when it comes to shutting down other teams top guys.
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No they're not. Backlund is right there with them.
Friedman said Backlund was one of his finalists.
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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04-19-2017, 04:58 PM
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
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How did Backlund get robbed? Backlund is a solid player but Bergeron is on another level. It should be his to win. Kesler and Koivu I would imagine would come in 2nd and 3rd.
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04-19-2017, 05:00 PM
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Backlund has to be the most underrated player in hockey.
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Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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04-19-2017, 05:03 PM
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First Line Centre
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Good. Will save the Flames some money on a new contract.
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04-19-2017, 05:03 PM
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Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
Backlund has to be the most underrated player in hockey.
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Will see when the results of the vote come out at NHL awards. He and Kadri should round out top 5
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04-19-2017, 05:03 PM
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Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Meh, no biggie, all three are worthy finalists.
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04-19-2017, 05:07 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
How did Backlund get robbed? Backlund is a solid player but Bergeron is on another level. It should be his to win. Kesler and Koivu I would imagine would come in 2nd and 3rd.
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Stats as of March 26
Mikko Koivu
GP/G/A/Points: 72/18/35/53
Points/60: 2.30
Defensive Zone Starts: 64.0%
Corsi Against: 50.5%
Patrice Bergeron
GP/G/A/Points: 72/17/32/49
Points/60: 2.14
Defensive Zone Starts: 44.3%
Corsi Against: 38.1%
Ryan Kesler
GP/G/A/Points: 74/20/31/51
Points/60: 1.92
Defensive Zone Starts: 65.7%
Corsi Against: 48.1%
Mikael Backlund
GP/G/A/Points: 74/21/29/50
Points/60: 2.32
Defensive Zone Starts: 64.0%
Corsi Against: 45.1%
Offensively all very comparable. Bergeron gets the most offensive zone starts, whereas the other 3 start in the defensive zone by a majority. Backlund only 2nd in CA to Bergeron, who again stars primarily in the offensive zone which plays a large part in that.
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04-19-2017, 05:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Will see when the results of the vote come out at NHL awards. He and Kadri should round out top 5
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Yea the votes usually go public after the award is given out.
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04-19-2017, 05:10 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
Backlund has to be the most underrated player in hockey.
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And the most over rated player on CP.
He's a great 2 way, but he isn't on the Kessler level never mind Bergeron.
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04-19-2017, 05:12 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
Yea the votes usually go public after the award is given out.
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He doesn't need a Selke before he re-signs in Calgary.
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04-19-2017, 05:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahan For Mayor
And the most over rated player on CP.
He's a great 2 way, but he isn't on the Kessler level never mind Bergeron.
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Again, yes he is. Virtually every stat you can find shows that they're very much on the same level. Backlund is an elite two way forward.
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04-19-2017, 05:13 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Stats as of March 26
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Offensively all very comparable. Bergeron gets the most offensive zone starts, whereas the other 3 start in the defensive zone by a majority. Backlund only 2nd in CA to Bergeron, who again stars primarily in the offensive zone which plays a large part in that.
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A couple of key stats you're missing...
Corsi against per 60:
Kesler: 55.82
Koivu: 54.00
Backlund: 50.77
Bergeron: 44.16
Shots against per 60:
Koivu: 28.18
Kesler: 27.68
Backlund: 26.10
Bergeron: 23.18
Two things to take away from this.
First, yes, there's a good basis for suggesting that Backlund deserved a nomination.
Second... Bergeron is a God. He should win every year forever. They should just re-name the trophy after him.
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04-19-2017, 05:13 PM
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
Meh, no biggie, all three are worthy finalists.
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English translation:
Koivu = Finland
Backlund = Sweden
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04-19-2017, 05:13 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: F*** me. We're so f***ing good, you check the f***ing standings? Lets f***ing go! F***ing practice!
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It would have been nice for Backlund to get the recognition he deserves, he had a great, consistent season of two way play.
On the bright side, this will save us some money when we re-sign him.
Oh and f##k Kesler.
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Backlund for Selke 2017 2018
Oilers suck.
Last edited by CsInMyBlood; 04-19-2017 at 05:26 PM.
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04-19-2017, 05:14 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
A couple of key stats you're missing...
Corsi against per 60:
Kesler: 55.82
Koivu: 54.00
Backlund: 50.77
Bergeron: 44.16
Shots against per 60:
Koivu: 28.18
Kesler: 27.68
Backlund: 26.10
Bergeron: 23.18
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Those stats are all helped by his 20% difference in zone starts compared to the other 3, no?
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