United Airlines forcibly removes passenger on flight they (did not) overbook

[LIP MAN]

There's going to be way more delays, but hopefully not overbooking will help with it.

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by Drummer

$10,000? Yes please.

I really doubt they're going to start at $10,000 whenever someone needs to be bumped. More likely you start down at like $500 and climb from there.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

There. That wasn't so hard. Problem solved. The next post after was someone who is ready and happy to be kicked off a flight.

I bet this also means they simply sell less seats beyond their capacity since buying the seats back will cost more now.

It might marginally move the needle on the optimum number of seats but I bet it would be a rare occurrence to need more than 1000 cash per seat to get volunteers. For a family of four a one day bump could pay for half their vacation. I don't see it ever getting above 2k before people are running to the gate to be bumped.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

I really doubt they're going to start at $10,000 whenever someone needs to be bumped. More likely you start down at like $500 and climb from there.

A game of chicken between your fellow passengers. How long to do you hold out before somebody snags that sweet cash before you decide to give in.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by GGG

It might marginally move the needle on the optimum number of seats but I bet it would be a rare occurrence to need more than 1000 cash per seat to get volunteers. For a family of four a one day bump could pay for half their vacation. I don't see it ever getting above 2k before people are running to the gate to be bumped.

If you're willing to completely cancel your trip, that's where the real money is and how Delta guy got up to $11k for his family of 4.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by chemgear

A game of chicken between your fellow passengers. How long to do you hold out before somebody snags that sweet cash before you decide to give in.

This is what is going to happen. But what will be interesting for me is to see how this affects on time performance. The longer passengers hold out (ie the higher the auction price goes) the longer the flight will be delayed. Maybe it won't add up to much overall but a lot of oversold flights that lead to longer departure delays might have a ripple effect across the system.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

This is what is going to happen. But what will be interesting for me is to see how this affects on time performance. The longer passengers hold out (ie the higher the auction price goes) the longer the flight will be delayed. Maybe it won't add up to much overall but a lot of oversold flights that lead to longer departure delays might have a ripple effect across the system.

They could do it like "The Price Is Right". tell everyone on the plane to write down their price and pick the 4 people closest to $1 without going over (figuratively speaking).

Sure, a lot of people would start at $10k, but you would have some people undercutting to get chosen.

[sureLoss]

United and Dr. Dao have reached a settlement. No law suit:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/set...-airlines/amp/

[Drummer]

Wonder how much he got, any guesses?

[pylon]

My guess is 10-20 million. Not enough to really hurt United, but more than enough for the guy to live out the rest of his life in comfort.

[FlamesAddiction]

O'Hare and the City are probably the bigger culprits, but United has more motivation to turn the page.

[Drummer]

I was thinking he got around $3-$4 million.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by pylon

My guess is 10-20 million. Not enough to really hurt United, but more than enough for the guy to live out the rest of his life in comfort.

10 would be the absolute high IMO

My guess:

$1 million for physical trauma(assuming full recovery)
$1 million for the embarrassment
$1 million for missing his flight
$5 million to settle and STFU, thus keep it away from the courts and negative press.

Cool $8 million and he would do it again for less!

[Calgary14]

United got off easy. Even if it was $10M that's nothing to them. I was hoping it would go to trial and their name would be in the media daily

[Dan02]

Pfft and some of you wanted to get off the plane for $800.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by pylon

My guess is 10-20 million. Not enough to really hurt United, but more than enough for the guy to live out the rest of his life in comfort.

Originally Posted by Drummer

I was thinking he got around $3-$4 million.

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

10 would be the absolute high IMO

My guess:

$1 million for physical trauma(assuming full recovery)
$1 million for the embarrassment
$1 million for missing his flight
$5 million to settle and STFU, thus keep it away from the courts and negative press.

Cool $8 million and he would do it again for less!

Originally Posted by Calgary14

United got off easy. Even if it was $10M that's nothing to them. I was hoping it would go to trial and their name would be in the media daily

I don't think any company rolls over and gives away millions of dollars that quickly.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I don't think any company rolls over and gives away millions of dollars that quickly.

If this goes to court then every time something comes up it becomes news again. The memes start up, and it continues to be bad press for them. So I could see that they would want to put this to rest quickly and quietly.

It's also possible that Dao had a reasonable request for settlement, and they just agreed. Maybe even upped the amount for a non-disclosure clause.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by ken0042

If this goes to court then every time something comes up it becomes news again. The memes start up, and it continues to be bad press for them. So I could see that they would want to put this to rest quickly and quietly.

It's also possible that Dao had a reasonable request for settlement, and they just agreed. Maybe even upped the amount for a non-disclosure clause.

And being 69 years old, that money is worth more to him sooner rather than later. Both sides had motivation to settle fast.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by ken0042

If this goes to court then every time something comes up it becomes news again. The memes start up, and it continues to be bad press for them. So I could see that they would want to put this to rest quickly and quietly.

It's also possible that Dao had a reasonable request for settlement, and they just agreed. Maybe even upped the amount for a non-disclosure clause.

I think your second point is bang on "reasonable request for settlement". I don't think any company would view millions of dollars as "reasonable".

[ken0042]

On 660 news they had speculated the settlement would have been in the 3-4 million range.