07-10-2013, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
How so?
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What do you mean how so? It was obviously essentially a reboot. As Wikipedia puts it:
"Casino Royale reboots the series, establishing a new timeline and narrative framework not meant to precede or succeed any previous Bond film,[3][4] which allowed the film to show a less experienced and more vulnerable Bond.[5] For the first time in the series, the character Miss Moneypenny does not appear. Casting the film involved a widespread search for a new actor to portray James Bond, and significant controversy surrounded Craig when he was selected to succeed Pierce Brosnan in October 2005. Location filming took place in the Czech Republic, the Bahamas, Italy and the United Kingdom with interior sets built at Pinewood Studios. Although part of the storyline was set in Montenegro, no filming took place there. Casino Royale was produced by Eon Productions for Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and Columbia Pictures, making it the first Eon-produced Bond film to be co-produced by the latter studio."
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07-11-2013, 10:28 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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One does not simply reboot Terminator franchise.
It isn't like a superhero movie where you can have different viewpoints on - Cameron's Terminator movies are THE terminator movies.
No Cameron, No Schwartzenegger. No go.
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07-11-2013, 10:29 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by JeanLucPicard
One does not simply reboot Terminator franchise.
It isn't like a superhero movie where you can have different viewpoints on - Cameron's Terminator movies are THE terminator movies.
No Cameron, No Schwartzenegger. No go.
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1e9 this
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07-11-2013, 10:34 AM
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#24
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Originally Posted by trackercowe
Man of Steel was a pretty damn good start for rebooting the franchise. People weren't too impressed when Batman Begins came out either, and now look at how well people view the Nolan series.
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I disagree, I think most people loved Batman Begins right away.
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Originally Posted by trackercowe
Star Trek was also a very good reboot too. The first two are already two of the better Star Trek movies in the series; really what else can you ask for?
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That is not a very high bar. There is a lot of crap in those movies.
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07-11-2013, 10:44 AM
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This thread has actually reminded me how awesome most of the reboots from the last 10 years have been. Sign me up.
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07-11-2013, 10:54 AM
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Best thing about Terminator Salvation, was that the little kid in it was a mute. Child actors are insufferable mostly.
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07-11-2013, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
Conan The Barbarian, Total Recall, Terminator. What other Arnold movies can we expect a "reboot" from? I'm guessing Predator will be next, but who knows, maybe it'll be Kindergarten Cop
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I think it would be cool to see a remake or re-imagining, reboot, whatever of Commando.
I remember reading somewhere that there was supposed to be a sequel but that Arnold turned it down and the idea of the character was reworked into what eventually became John McClane and the Die Hard series.
So many good one-liners in that movie.
Matrix: "Remember Sully when I promised to kill you last?"
Sully, being held upside-down from the edge of a cliff: "That's right Matrix, you did!"
Matrix: "I lied"
<Matrix releases his grip on Sully's leg, Sully falls to his death, screaming>
Cindy: "What happened to Sully?"
Matrix: "I let him go."
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07-11-2013, 02:48 PM
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Posted the 6 millionth post!
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Arnold is part of the cast in the remake of the Toxic Avenger.
I am pumped.
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07-11-2013, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Locke
That is not a very high bar. There is a lot of crap in those movies.
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Just wait for JJ Abrams to add lens flairs to Star Wars! Thank Xenu that Lucas set the bar so low with the prequels.
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07-11-2013, 09:05 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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I am not looking forward to the JJ Abrams Star Wars at all.
He's basically a nerdier Michael Bay.
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07-11-2013, 09:15 PM
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They should have arnold bring the reboot through I time portal to 2015.
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07-11-2013, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
I am not looking forward to the JJ Abrams Star Wars at all.
He's basically a nerdier Michael Bay.
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Except for you know, never doing a bad movie in his career... So there's that
Mission Impossible, Star Trek, Super 8, Cloverfield, Lost, Alias, Fringe, heck he even wrote Joy Ride which was a pretty solid movie back in the day. Maybe he doesn't have the spectacular track record some directors do, but comparing him to Michael Bay is asinine. The only thing they have in common is that they both worked on Armageddon (a 31/32 year old Abrams wrote it).
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07-11-2013, 09:48 PM
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They should redo that movie where Annie is pregnant.
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07-11-2013, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by trackercowe
Except for you know, never doing a bad movie in his career... So there's that
Mission Impossible, Star Trek, Super 8, Cloverfield, Lost, Alias, Fringe, heck he even wrote Joy Ride which was a pretty solid movie back in the day. Maybe he doesn't have the spectacular track record some directors do, but comparing him to Michael Bay is asinine. The only thing they have in common is that they both worked on Armageddon (a 31/32 year old Abrams wrote it).
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Except Abrams Trek has about as much depth as Transformers compared to Roddenberry Trek at it's height.
We're not arguing Abrams commercial success. Bay has that too. Hell I didn't even mind the first Transformers movie. But Nicolas Meyer directed the best Star Trek movie. Not JJ Abrams.
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07-11-2013, 11:40 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by trackercowe
Except for you know, never doing a bad movie in his career... So there's that
Mission Impossible, Star Trek, Super 8, Cloverfield, Lost, Alias, Fringe, heck he even wrote Joy Ride which was a pretty solid movie back in the day. Maybe he doesn't have the spectacular track record some directors do, but comparing him to Michael Bay is asinine. The only thing they have in common is that they both worked on Armageddon (a 31/32 year old Abrams wrote it).
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Abrams has never made a great movie either, he's pretty overrated.
Abrams' Star Trek movies lack any sort of depth, the only depth they have is from the original series. The Mission Impossible he did pales in comparison to the next one in the series and after that it's a whole bunch of meh.
JJ Abrams has a lot more in common with Michael Bay then some of the best directors currently working. He's no Alex Payne, he's no Darren Aronofsky, David O' Russell, Christopher Nolan, Ben Affleck, Paul Thomas Anderson, The Coen Brothers, David Fincher, Quentin Tarantino or Kathryn Bigelow etc etc etc.
These are directors who are capable of telling amazing stories, some with incredible Sci-Fi back rounds but telling them with heart, passion and a friggin backbone. His stories make money, they're flashy as all hell but lack and sort of depth and emotion. His Star Wars movies are going to be flashy, lots of cool light saber battles.. but you won't care about the characters. But like his two Trek movies I'll be there opening weekend, desperately hoping I'm wrong.
Maybe Michael Bay is too harsh... Brett Ratner is a good comparison. Ratner's pretty crappy too but he's also had a couple decent movies like Red Dragon and Rush Hour.
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07-11-2013, 11:49 PM
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I'm sorry MMF but i'm going to have to disagree with you here. Yeah Abrams is no Tarantino or Nolan but he is nowhere, and i mean nowhere, near as crappy as Bay.
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07-11-2013, 11:52 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
I'm sorry MMF but i'm going to have to disagree with you here. Yeah Abrams is no Tarantino or Nolan but he is nowhere, and i mean nowhere, near as crappy as Bay.
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Yah, Brett Ratner is maybe a better choice.
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07-12-2013, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Yah, Brett Ratner is maybe a better choice.
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He's even worse than Bay; he might be the worst director in Hollywood. Just a "yes sir" puppet, completely incapable of directing anything remotely interesting. Ever witness the crime that is Movie 43? I would hope not, as downing a bottle of draino is superior than watching that mess.
And none of the directors you listed are capable of directing a Star Wars movie. Aside from Nolan I don't think any of them has even directed a sci-fi movie. That and the amount of directors willing to take on a project like Star Wars was probably quite limited.
Brad Bird would have been a better choice, but Abrams is still pretty solid alternative.
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07-12-2013, 12:55 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by trackercowe
And none of the directors you listed are capable of directing a Star Wars movie.
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That's silly.
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Originally Posted by trackercowe
Brad Bird would have been a better choice, but Abrams is still pretty solid alternative.
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Brad Bird is incapable of directing an action packed movie like Mission Impossible, all he's done is Pixar animated movies!
Just to show you how ridiculous your previous part was.
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07-12-2013, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
That's silly.
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Not at all, completely different genres outside of what they usually make. Directing a sci-fi movie is completely different than any movie most of those directors have done. Most of them have been directing for 20+ years and have never done anything close to science fiction, how easy would it be for them to one day decide to direct a movie like Star Wars, which is completely different than anything they've attempted before?
Besides that fact most of them would have turned it down. There are only so many directors out there willing to oversee a universe like Star Wars, and pretty much put a stop to whatever else they're doing. Do you honestly see any of those directors willing to only do Star Wars movies for the imminent future?
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
That's silly.
Brad Bird is incapable of directing an action packed movie like Mission Impossible, all he's done is Pixar animated movies!
Just to show you how ridiculous your previous part was.
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What the heck are you even talking about now? People loved Ghost Protocol, and it was one of the better movies of last year (93% review rating). It reinvigorated the franchise, and had many excellent action scenes. Brad Bird is a visionary, who is working on many upcoming projects that will more than likely be superb movies (1906 and Tomorrowland). Oh and the Pixar movies were also excellent (as was Iron Giant); Joss Whedon did Toy Story to start his directing career, but I guess he was incapable of handling the Marvel universe... oh wait nevermind.
But hey you compared Brett Ratner, who has never directed a movie with a rating above 70% to JJ Abrams, who has never directed a movie with a rating below 70%. Trustworthy comparison there!
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