I feel a little cheated on by Dao. After all of the support and sympathy I've given him here how dared he to settle privately and not tell me how much he got out of it...
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Even though the injury would not be worth close to $1 million, even in the US, the fact this settles so quickly suggests they settled for more than that, especially given the chance of punitive damages, and wanting to get this out of the news.
3-4 Million is an over payment but I wouldn't be surprised.
$3-4M seems really low. If the case went to trial the amount of negative publicity generated from the court proceedings alone would be worth hundreds of millions - and United knows that. And that doesn't include any settlement he likely would receive at the end. It was definitely in their best interests to settle quickly and for that they would pay a decent amount.
This is a complete guess but I'd say $10M minimum. His lawyers know they have the advantage and would play hardball.
$3-4M seems really low. If the case went to trial the amount of negative publicity generated from the court proceedings alone would be worth hundreds of millions - and United knows that. And that doesn't include any settlement he likely would receive at the end. It was definitely in their best interests to settle quickly and for that they would pay a decent amount.
This is a complete guess but I'd say $10M minimum. His lawyers know they have the advantage and would play hardball.
Character of the victim could play into it as well. You could get a person who embraces the attention and values the process of getting as many millions as possible.
Or you could get a low key guy (this guy kind of comes off that way) that just doesn't want the publicity or headache of a huge back and forth, intense legal battle.
"Hey, we can get $5-$10mil if we really grind them and make threats and all that within a couple months, or if I tell them they can settle for $4mil they'll close the deal tomorrow and send you your money and you're a multi millionaire and this is all behind you".
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I think he is bang on. If this situation isn't allowed, how did then even get on the plane. Why weren't they stopped at check in, or boarding.
One likely possibility is he boarded with his and his wife's boarding passes, and with the two small kids in tow the gate people figured the babies were going to be on laps. Then when the 18 year old "no-showed" they sold his seat; however the parents assumed they still got to use that seat.
I don't fly that often, but I do know most airlines do not allow name changes on seats.
I think it is pretty well known that you can't just use someone one else's ticket with a different name. I assume they got their 18 year old to check in online so they "claimed" it, but wouldn't have been able to do the last step, which would be checking the name against ID for that seat at the gate. So they just got on, and plomped their stuff down. Because that last step never happened, Delta would have seen it as unused and sold it as standby. Any of the Delta staff would have also assumed the baby was travelling on the parents lap, just carrying a car seat doesn't indicate the child was supposed to have it's own seat.
I think these people probably thought becuase they paid for it, they got to use it however they wished, which is not the case. Delta should have just let them fly with the kid in their lap though, instead of kicking them off.
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Yeah, I think Ken has it right. The parents just assumed the seat for this 18 year old would be vacant so they put one of the kids in the seat. When the employees said that seats are not transferable (and likely sold to someone else now that the 18 year is not there), they should have just moved the kid to their lap and this is a non-story.
This might sound harsh, but I think the parents got what they deserve by kicking them off the plane. They violated the company policy and could have made this a non-issue by just complying with instructions. Instead, they have to make a moral stand and basically hold up an entire plane of people because they are above the rules. I have no real patience for these kind of people and am disappointed that Delta compensated them for this.
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Yeah, I think Ken has it right. The parents just assumed the seat for this 18 year old would be vacant so they put one of the kids in the seat. When the employees said that seats are not transferable (and likely sold to someone else now that the 18 year is not there), they should have just moved the kid to their lap and this is a non-story.
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From the Article, and here is what I am unclear about from watching the video during my morning poo.
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Schear then suggests that his wife could hold one of the toddlers during takeoff and then put the youngster in the car seat. Another person, who appears to be a Delta supervisor, tells him that federal rules require that children under two must stay in a parent's lap throughout the flight.
The Federal Aviation Administration "strongly urges" that infants be in a car seat, although it permits those under two to be held in a parent's lap. On its website, Delta recommends that parents buy seats for children under two and put them in an approved child-safety seat.
Brian Schear spoke briefly to The Associated Press by telephone Thursday and said he has been overwhelmed by media requests. He declined additional comment and said the family may hold a news conference.
It is not yet known if the family has accepted the airline's compensation offer.
It seemed like he offered, at the end, to put the child on the lap, but this was not allowed?
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From the Article, and here is what I am unclear about from watching the video during my morning poo.
It seemed like he offered, at the end, to put the child on the lap, but this was not allowed?
He left it too long and the person they were dealing with ran out of patience and told them it was too late-Kind of like I do with my kids but this time with a plane full of people and they paid for their tickets- I'm really glad Airlines have been put on watch- they are really awful. If only they could make US border agents not be such dicks- instead they now feel even more empowered to be jerks
He left it too long and the person they were dealing with ran out of patience and told them it was too late-Kind of like I do with my kids but this time with a plane full of people and they paid for their tickets- I'm really glad Airlines have been put on watch- they are really awful. If only they could make US border agents not be such dicks- instead they now feel even more empowered to be jerks
At the same time a lot of people have entitled attitudes and don't bother to understand their obligations or the ToS of the tickets they are buying. Then they just splash it on social media when they get held to the terms and people lap it up.
And I'm fine with border agents not being friendly, cuddly people. Their job is to keep undesirable people out and screen people for threats. They aren't customer service people. When you deal with one, you're asking permission to enter a country you don't have a right to enter.
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