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Ironhorse · 12-05-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

I got pulled over in a checkstop last night around 2am. I was just finishing work but one of the other cops had a lady pulled over who was getting a breathalyzer.

That doesn't mean anything. I got a breathalyzer once even though I was totally sober. Guessing the cop didn't believe me that I was on my way home from work. I may have looked tired.

underGRADFlame · 12-05-2016, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironhorse

That doesn't mean anything. I got a breathalyzer once even though I was totally sober. Guessing the cop didn't believe me that I was on my way home from work. I may have looked tired.

"Suspicion or admission" is all they need to request a roadside test. So either a reasonable suspicion that you have consumed alcohol (exhibiting signs of impairment) or admission to having consumed alcohol, the old "i only had 2 beers"!

Locke · 12-05-2016, 12:09 PM

Aw man, if the 'roadside test' is anything like they show in movies I probably couldnt do that stone cold sober.

Its rigged I tell you!

jayswin · 12-05-2016, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironhorse

That doesn't mean anything. I got a breathalyzer once even though I was totally sober. Guessing the cop didn't believe me that I was on my way home from work. I may have looked tired.

That doesn't seem right. You would have to had looked so tired that you looked impaired. Were you practically falling asleep?

troutman · 12-05-2016, 01:38 PM

There was a check stop south bound on 10th st in Kensington Friday night.

You'd think if they were trying to catch drunk drivers, they would set up where people were leaving downtown/Kensington, not arriving?

Ironhorse · 12-05-2016, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jayswin

That doesn't seem right. You would have to had looked so tired that you looked impaired. Were you practically falling asleep?

No, but it was a 13 hour day for me, and I'd had my contacts in for about 16+ hours by then. My eyes whites may have been red, that happens sometimes.

cznTiburon · 12-05-2016, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by underGRADFlame

"Suspicion or admission" is all they need to request a roadside test. So either a reasonable suspicion that you have consumed alcohol (exhibiting signs of impairment) or admission to having consumed alcohol, the old "i only had 2 beers"!

Your use of exhibiting signs of impairment is a little bit loose here. Suspicion is just that, a suspicion of consumption of alcohol. If you are exhibiting signs of impairment in theory that should be enough to form grounds and arrest for impaired driving without use of a roadside test.

At least that's how it has been described to me. I would say that Ironhorse is right that he was likely required to provide a roadside due to his eyes being crazy red and being very tired.

Table 5 · 12-05-2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke

Aw man, if the 'roadside test' is anything like they show in movies I probably couldnt do that stone cold sober.

Yeah, there's no way I would ever pass the "recite the alphabet backwards" test. Not unless there is some sort of nursery rhyme I can practice with.

Cecil Terwilliger · 12-21-2016, 10:31 AM

Another heartwarming story about the CPS in the news.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...ting-1.3906427

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Karl Menier, who lives in Mission, arranged to meet what he thought was a buyer for his high-end police radar detector, posted for sale through the popular classifieds website Kijiji.
But when he got to the agreed location a couple of minutes away on 17th Avenue, he says three police vehicles came out of nowhere and he found himself at the centre of a scary takedown.

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"They were bombarding me with questions, they threw me in the back of the van, they locked me down. I'm still really shocked and it's really humiliating, I've never been humiliated like that in public."

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"I gave them my home address. They could have come and met me here," he continued.
Menier says police didn't return his radar and he doesn't know when he'll get it back.
"A little apology would be really great. If police have suspicions they should approach people differently, not aggressively like that."

Glad to see we're using the entire strength of the force to shake down that lucrative radar detector theft market. Then keeping the legally purchased goods and refusing to apologize for aggressively arresting and terrorizing an innocent guy.

Locke · 12-21-2016, 10:34 AM

I wasnt aware that Radar Detectors were Illegal in Alberta.

I know they are mostly elsewhere in Canada, but I thought they were fine here.

Cecil Terwilliger · 12-21-2016, 10:39 AM

They are legal here. This "sting" was about trying to recover stolen goods. Apparently this incredibly common radar detector was recently part of a Calgary theft.

CPS's answer was to just tackle the first guy they could find with a similar model and assume it was him that stole it.

Wiggum_PI · 12-21-2016, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke

I wasnt aware that Radar Detectors were Illegal in Alberta.

I know they are mostly elsewhere in Canada, but I thought they were fine here.

Radar detectors aren't illegal in Alberta. It looks like the cops made a mistake and thought this guy was trying to sell a stolen one.

OMG!WTF! · 12-21-2016, 10:42 AM

I read this today and it just sucks. Why can't they just be normal? Arrest the guy. Ask him some questions. Then let him go. What's with the agro nonsense?

Cecil Terwilliger · 12-21-2016, 10:56 AM

And what frustrates me about this is that their special unit that handled finding/returning stolen goods had just gotten a bunch of good press. It may not even be the best use of resources but it is such a helpless feeling to be robbed and having a unit focus on getting Calgarians back their stuff was such a good public relations move.

That's why this is so frustrating. I don't want my stolen stuff back if the cost is innocent Calgarians getting unnecessarily harassed. They literally could have just walked up to the guy and asked him some questions. When he proved it was legit they could have said thanks, have a nice day and he would have been happy knowing they are out there watching for stolen goods and it would have further added to the positive feedback.

Fuzz · 12-22-2016, 08:23 AM

FFS, another one:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...908563?cmp=rss

Is it so hard for the police to abide by "innocent until proven guilty"? Maybe knock on the door, and ask to see some proof of ownership before throwing him in the disco box? Who's running this ####show?

CaramonLS · 12-22-2016, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

And what frustrates me about this is that their special unit that handled finding/returning stolen goods had just gotten a bunch of good press. It may not even be the best use of resources but it is such a helpless feeling to be robbed and having a unit focus on getting Calgarians back their stuff was such a good public relations move.

That's why this is so frustrating. I don't want my stolen stuff back if the cost is innocent Calgarians getting unnecessarily harassed. They literally could have just walked up to the guy and asked him some questions. When he proved it was legit they could have said thanks, have a nice day and he would have been happy knowing they are out there watching for stolen goods and it would have further added to the positive feedback.

What should happen is that each time one of these incidents occur, CPS needs to reduce their headcount by 1 officer.

3 cruisers + an undercover for some kijiji sting? How much wasted time, resources and planning went into creating this mess. Maybe by reducing their staff, they can refocus their efforts.

OMG!WTF! · 12-22-2016, 08:54 AM

Sounds like the bike guy got off relatively easy. I wonder if they were a little bit cranky with the radar detector guy because they don't like radar detectors.

RougeUnderoos · 12-22-2016, 09:15 AM

Look people, this is very simple: if you don't want to be arrested, don't sell your own property.

Everyone's such a precious little snowflake nowadays. "Oh gee wiz, I didn't do anything wrong and seven cops arrested me and kept my stuff. Boo hoo hoo."

Man up, you bunch of pansies!

Oling_Roachinen · 12-22-2016, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

I read this today and it just sucks. Why can't they just be normal? Arrest the guy. Ask him some questions. Then let him go. What's with the agro nonsense?

How is it at anyway normal to arrest a guy for selling a legitimate item on a legitimate website?

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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

Sounds like the bike guy got off relatively easy. I wonder if they were a little bit cranky with the radar detector guy because they don't like radar detectors.

Got off easy? For doing something perfectly legal...

I'm really having a hard time understanding your mentality here. Cops should have some sort of proof before arresting someone. That's just the most basic ideology of a free society...

OMG!WTF! · 12-22-2016, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

How is it at anyway normal to arrest a guy for selling a legitimate item on a legitimate website?

Got off easy? For doing something perfectly legal...

I'm really having a hard time understanding your mentality here. Cops should have some sort of proof before arresting someone. That's just the most basic ideology of a free society...

Maybe I should have used the word "detain" instead. Technically if you're being investigated you're just being detained. But I have no problem with cops "arresting" someone with reasonable grounds to suspect they committed a crime. Proof, as you say, of course is not required. Glad you're mad though.