12-13-2023, 12:04 PM
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#221
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Join Date: May 2016
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Cayden Lindstrom looks like a plausible target for the Flames, unless they find themselves picking in the top 5.
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12-13-2023, 12:08 PM
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#222
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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
Cayden Lindstrom looks like a plausible target for the Flames, unless they find themselves picking in the top 5.
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I'd be shocked if they didn't
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12-13-2023, 12:12 PM
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#223
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Originally Posted by Bonded
I'd be shocked if they didn't
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https://www.tankathon.com/nhl
As it stands right now it looks like the Flames will be just outside of that window. A little lottery luck may be required given that Chicago, Anahiem and San Jose have a strangle hold on the bottom 3.
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12-13-2023, 12:18 PM
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#224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
https://www.tankathon.com/nhl
As it stands right now it looks like the Flames will be just outside of that window. A little lottery luck may be required given that Chicago, Anahiem and San Jose have a strangle hold on the bottom 3.
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The Flames are sitting just outside of the bottom five and they had a competent d core for the quarter of the season. Once Tanev and Hanifin are gone they will work their way to bottom 5
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12-13-2023, 12:19 PM
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#225
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Join Date: May 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
The Flames are sitting just outside of the bottom five and they had a competent d core for the quarter of the season. Once Tanev and Hanifin are gone they will work their way to bottom 5
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Let's hope! C'mon Conroy!
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12-13-2023, 04:40 PM
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#226
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by bigrangy
I’m always worried about taking players that have way more goals than assists at the junior level. Even Bedard had as many assists as goals and he’s the best goal scorer in the league and was playing with absolute plugs. If you can’t feed your teammates in juniors, you don’t figure it out in the NHL, and passing is 90% of offense.
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Strangely enough, that’s usually my philosophy as well. I bet there’s a long list of players who were big goal-scorers in junior, with a ton more goals than assists, who either never made it to the show, or never justified the hype.
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12-14-2023, 09:00 AM
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#227
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https://flamesnation.ca/news/why-the...ng-for-the-nhl
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the exact number of picks to keep probably depends on when during each draft the picks fall, but you’re probably looking at around eight picks per draft to keep the farm system appropriately stocked with new players. If a team has more than two picks in the first couple rounds, they might be able to get away with seven; the fewer early picks a team has, the more they’re reliant on late picks and need to make more of them
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Interesting article on the probabilities of draft picks being signed and how many entry level players can you fit into the organization comfortably every year.
Entering a rebuild/retool the number might increase if you believe that there is a lack of talent in the pipeline from previous drafts. I would think that if you can get 6-8 picks in your top three rounds and you are successful at drafting that you have a chance to properly restock an organization so that you have a foundation of young talent coming up together.
Makes you wonder if the Coyotes will be spending some of their draft capital because they have a significant number of picks in the next three drafts. They already have some good young talent.
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12-14-2023, 09:14 AM
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#228
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Originally Posted by Sandman
Just my opinion, but if I'm an NHL GM, I'm taking Lindstrom ahead of anyone not named Celebrini, at least at this point in the season- things might look a little different later on. 40 points (24 goals) in 29 WHL games from a 6'5" center who can skate, and is physical and mean (64 PIM). Actual f'n unicorn.
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2 goals for him last night against Lethbridge to match his point total of 42 from last season (did it in 30 games this year) 17 points on a 10-game point streak. He's been on a heater of late.
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12-14-2023, 09:55 AM
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#229
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
Cayden Lindstrom looks like a plausible target for the Flames, unless they find themselves picking in the top 5.
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If Lindstrom keeps up this pace he will probably go between 4-6 TBH
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12-14-2023, 01:55 PM
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#230
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrangy
I’m always worried about taking players that have way more goals than assists at the junior level. Even Bedard had as many assists as goals and he’s the best goal scorer in the league and was playing with absolute plugs. If you can’t feed your teammates in juniors, you don’t figure it out in the NHL, and passing is 90% of offense.
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understandable, and we've been there before. Remember Ryan Howse? Incredibly lopsided junior stats (140 goals and 77 assists over his WHL career), could never figure it out at the pro level.
As for Lindstrom, it wouldn't worry me though. He had more assists than goals both in the CSSHL two years ago (25+35) and in the WHL last season (19+23), he just seems to have gone on a bit of a scoring spree this year.
Outside of Celebrini and maybe one or two others, I'm sprinting to the podium if he's on the board. Feels like a great center prospect to build around and I'd love the Flames to be in a position to draft him.
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12-14-2023, 02:41 PM
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#231
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The Flames would be drafting 6th right now based on points percentage.
Provided Seattle gets going, and BUF/OTT/STL/MTL don't completely crap the bed, I think the Flames are locked into the #5 position heading into the lottery.
And it's not compleetely out of the realm of possibility that they slide into a top 3 spot all things considered (trading Lindholm/Hanifin/Tanev/etc., slowdown of 3rd period comebacks, etc).
Here's hoping for a very fun draft
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12-14-2023, 02:50 PM
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#232
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Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL
The Flames would be drafting 6th right now based on points percentage.
Provided Seattle gets going, and BUF/OTT/STL/MTL don't completely crap the bed, I think the Flames are locked into the #5 position heading into the lottery.
And it's not compleetely out of the realm of possibility that they slide into a top 3 spot all things considered (trading Lindholm/Hanifin/Tanev/etc., slowdown of 3rd period comebacks, etc).
Here's hoping for a very fun draft
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Wouldn't it be nice to win the lottery.
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12-14-2023, 02:56 PM
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#233
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Flames are due to win the draft lottery, that's for sure.
Hopefully it starts raining picks soon too. It would sure be nice to have multiple 1st and 2nd rounders for this draft, and like 8-10 picks total. (They only have 6 right now)
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12-14-2023, 05:40 PM
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#234
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Bonded
Wouldn't it be nice to win the lottery.
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Oh, baby!
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12-15-2023, 01:09 AM
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#235
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Cayden Lindstrom sounds exactly like a Calgary Flame.
1st in controlled zone entries
1st in scoring 5v5
Yeah, that's precisely what this team lacks and desperately needs.
This is better than Byfield stuff. Gimme.
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12-15-2023, 01:24 AM
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#236
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Dream draft right now would be Lindstrom and in the middle of the 1st hopefully have another pick and snag Trevor Connelly.
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12-15-2023, 04:41 AM
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#237
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Cayden Lindstrom sounds exactly like a Calgary Flame.
1st in controlled zone entries
1st in scoring 5v5
Yeah, that's precisely what this team lacks and desperately needs.
This is better than Byfield stuff. Gimme.
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Right?!?
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12-15-2023, 06:31 AM
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#238
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
The Flames are sitting just outside of the bottom five and they had a competent d core for the quarter of the season. Once Tanev and Hanifin are gone they will work their way to bottom 5
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This is why I want the flames to trade tanev, hanifin and lindholm sooner than later. I truly believe if they sent those three out now that flames could challenge San Jose for that third overall pick. Having the third overall pick would be the biggest asset we could get for trading those guys.
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12-15-2023, 09:40 AM
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#239
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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12-15-2023, 09:45 AM
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#240
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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I think people are starting to sleep on Eiserman a bit. 6' 200lbs with mitts of absolute silk. Plays a heavy game and has an absolute rocket shot. This kid is going to be dominant year 1 in NHL.
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