02-25-2017, 09:10 AM
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Sportsnet Article on Matthew lottery ...
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02-25-2017, 09:13 AM
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HA HA flames were out of the running from the start. Have to give it to Edmonton they sure have luck on their side when it comes to draft.
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02-25-2017, 09:17 AM
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Lol ^ what Kyuss said
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02-25-2017, 09:54 AM
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I think I'll forever be bitter they got McDavid. Rewarded with the crown jewel of prospects while activity ruining hockey.
If they got Matthew's I would have lost it.
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02-25-2017, 10:06 AM
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I didn't know the playoff format was so "puzzling".
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02-25-2017, 10:46 AM
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Arizona needed both guys. It's not really good for the game when two huge hockey markets win the best talents in the league
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02-25-2017, 10:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
Arizona needed both guys. It's not really good for the game when two huge hockey markets win the best talents in the league
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I'm pretty sure Wayne Gretzky could arrive in Arizona from 1987 in a time machine and they still wouldn't sell enough tickets to survive in that market.
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02-25-2017, 10:59 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
Arizona needed both guys. It's not really good for the game when two huge hockey markets win the best talents in the league
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The draft lottery weighting, although improved recently, hasn't made sense since the salary cap and lowered UFA age were brought in. When you get parity from those 2 things, a weighted draft lottery just messes it up.
I know I have been beating this drum for a long time, but now that there is an even economic playing field, rewarding bad teams with the best talent does two things. It either hurts the talent since those teams tend to be terrible at developing players, or they end up with a salary structure that isn't sustainable since drafting in the top 5 for several years will force them to be a top heavy team (which doesn't work in hockey). It's easy enough to say they should just trade those picks for depth, but the cap system has made it more difficult to make hockey trades.
This is why I am not worried about the Oilers long term as they will be dismantling soon.
Give every team an equal chance to win the lottery and then snake each round.
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02-25-2017, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
The draft lottery weighting, although improved recently, hasn't made sense since the salary cap and lowered UFA age were brought in. When you get parity from those 2 things, a weighted draft lottery just messes it up.
I know I have been beating this drum for a long time, but now that there is an even economic playing field, rewarding bad teams with the best talent does two things. It either hurts the talent since those teams tend to be terrible at developing players, or they end up with a salary structure that isn't sustainable since drafting in the top 5 for several years will force them to be a top heavy team (which doesn't work in hockey). It's easy enough to say they should just trade those picks for depth, but the cap system has made it more difficult to make hockey trades.
This is why I am not worried about the Oilers long term as they will be dismantling soon.
Give every team an equal chance to win the lottery and then snake each round.
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If you're good with your later picks (i.e. Chicago) having a top-heavy team can work. That's the biggest issue, though. Your surrounding cast needs to be young, good and cheap and you have to be able to develop and draft in order to make that possible.
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02-25-2017, 11:50 AM
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Just create a rule that the same team can't win the lottery for 2 or 3 years after they win it once.
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02-25-2017, 12:19 PM
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Lol, of course the Flames were never in it
Last edited by Beninho; 02-25-2017 at 12:22 PM.
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02-25-2017, 01:48 PM
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Sportsnet Article on Matthew lottery ...
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We won the Matthew lottery when Columbus picked Dubois and then Vancouver picked Juolevi...
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02-25-2017, 01:56 PM
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Matthews
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02-25-2017, 04:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvp2003
We won the Matthew lottery when Columbus picked Dubois and then Vancouver picked Juolevi...
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That's actually what I thought the thread was going to be about...
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02-25-2017, 04:49 PM
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And to think, if Backstrom hadn't beaten his old team and Seiloff hadn't scored his only NHL goal, Laine would be a Flame...
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02-25-2017, 04:57 PM
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Oilers would have picked Laine if they had first pick.
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02-25-2017, 05:05 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
And to think, if Backstrom hadn't beaten his old team and Seiloff hadn't scored his only NHL goal, Laine would be a Flame...
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How does that work? Winnipeg still finished ahead of us?
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02-25-2017, 05:32 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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What's more depressing is that the Flames weren't even in the mix.
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