06-23-2016, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by opendoor
Statistics can only compared across countries (and time periods within a country) if the methods of gathering that data are similar. Different countries have different definitions of rape, varying percentages of victims who file complaints, and different ways of counting the number of offenses.
I mean, does anyone honestly believe you're 150 times more likely to be raped in Sweden compared to India as the UN report sourced on that page would suggest?
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It's definitely not a plague as these statistics try to make it out as. Like rubecube said there are other factors at play which skew the study. I wouldn't be surprised if sexual abuse is 100-200 times more likely to be reported in Sweden than in India.
But it is definitely an issue that coincides with them opening their doors to the outside world. I don't think anyone in Sweden would self apply such a title to themselves if it wasn't an issue. This study just wanted to take it to an extreme.
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06-23-2016, 02:16 PM
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#42
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Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames
It's definitely not a plague as these statistics try to make it out as. Like rubecube said there are other factors at play which skew the study. I wouldn't be surprised if sexual abuse is 100-200 times more likely to be reported in Sweden than in India.
But it is definitely an issue that coincides with them opening their doors to the outside world. I don't think anyone in Sweden would self apply such a title to themselves if it wasn't an issue. This study just wanted to take it to an extreme.
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opini...ticle30019623/
Just thought I'd add this. Basically the gist of it is that Sweden has a very wide definition of rape that includes rubbing up against someone or harassment of work and they treat each individual incident as a separate charge.
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06-23-2016, 03:08 PM
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#43
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Originally Posted by blankall
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opini...ticle30019623/
Just thought I'd add this. Basically the gist of it is that Sweden has a very wide definition of rape that includes rubbing up against someone or harassment of work and they treat each individual incident as a separate charge.
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And this is the reasoning that Swedish politicians have been using to brush the numbers under the rug and absolutely nothing is being done as a result.
There is plenty of other evidence to help support this issue though (not sure how credible these sources are, but there are lots of them).
http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/swedish-r...-stays-silent/
The below is in regards to sexual harassment, not necessarily rape.
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Sweden and Denmark now have the highest rates of sexual assault in the European Union, according to a study by the European Agency for Fundamental Rights. The findings were based on data from 2012 that was published in 2014.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/swedish-r...yIKOWKzbbQO.99
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http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/17...iel-greenfield
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With Muslims represented in as many as 77 percent of the rape cases and a major increase in rape cases paralleling a major increase in Muslim immigration, the wages of Muslim immigration are proving to be a sexual assault epidemic by a misogynistic ideology.
The statistics are skewed by urban centers where the Islamic colonists cluster. In Stockholm this summer there was an average of 5 rapes a day. Stockholm has gone from a Swedish city to a city that is one-third immigrant and is between a fifth and a quarter Muslim.
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If those numbers are even semi-accurate that's hard to ignore.
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06-23-2016, 03:28 PM
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Hey hey hey,
we can't be talking about how other cultures may view women as second class citizens and property. That's racist.
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06-23-2016, 03:30 PM
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UKIP leader Nigel Farage says it "looks like 'Remain' will edge it" #EUref
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06-23-2016, 03:31 PM
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06-23-2016, 03:38 PM
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48%! Damn, that's a lot of racists in the UK! John Oliver sure has some 'splainin to do on behalf of his motherland!
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06-23-2016, 03:44 PM
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Weird, CBC said they weren't doing exit poles because they wouldn't be reliable in this case.
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06-23-2016, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
48%! Damn, that's a lot of racists in the UK! John Oliver sure has some 'splainin to do on behalf of his motherland!
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I usually value John Oliver's opinion on pretty much everything. Except for his little ignorant speel during his episode. He left out some crucial details. Maybe that's why the British don't like him or know about him. He's too delved into America to know what's going on in his home country.
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06-23-2016, 03:56 PM
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Kind of a letdown when the leave side is conceding before the special on BBC even begins to talk about the referendum.
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06-23-2016, 04:06 PM
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06-23-2016, 04:14 PM
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If I'm understanding this correctly anyone from the EU can move freely into the UK no problem right? If that's the case then I can understand why they would want control over their own borders.
And if they wanted to severely restrict immigration I'd understand that as well, most of the population are native britons, so the argument of "you're an immigrant too!!!!" can't be shot off as a trump card.
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06-23-2016, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DiracSpike
If I'm understanding this correctly anyone from the EU can move freely into the UK no problem right? If that's the case then I can understand why they would want control over their own borders.
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well that's one of the ideas of the EU after all ... we can move freely between member countries. This isn't limited to the UK. Heck, I move across Austrian/German borders twice a few times per week.
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06-23-2016, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by devo22
well that's one of the ideas of the EU after all ... we can move freely between member countries. This isn't limited to the UK. Heck, I move across Austrian/German borders twice a few times per week.
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Sorry I meant move as in live and work in another EU country. The UK I know is at least a bit different, I had to clear customs going from London to Barcelona and Athens to Manchester when I went there last summer.
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06-23-2016, 04:36 PM
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The UK is not Schengen
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06-23-2016, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DiracSpike
Sorry I meant move as in live and work in another EU country. The UK I know is at least a bit different, I had to clear customs going from London to Barcelona and Athens to Manchester when I went there last summer.
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If you're not an EU citizen, this is standard. There are different lines for EU and non-EU citizens when you go through customs.
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06-23-2016, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames
I usually value John Oliver's opinion on pretty much everything. Except for his little ignorant speel during his episode. He left out some crucial details. Maybe that's why the British don't like him or know about him. He's too delved into America to know what's going on in his home country.
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What little details did he leave out? What was ignorant about his spiel and the British don't like him? First I heard of it. You making that up?
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06-23-2016, 04:47 PM
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#58
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First results are in which will tell us absolutely nothing as it is Gibraltar.
Leave: 823 (4%)
Remain: 19,322 (96%) Turnout 84%
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06-23-2016, 05:11 PM
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That settles it. North Korea style majority.
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06-23-2016, 05:15 PM
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Looooooooooooooch
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
That settles it. North Korea style majority.
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North Korea style majority would be 100% for one side and a total vote turnout that's higher than the population of the country.
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