I was recently in England and got to ask a lot of locals about this. It seems very divided right now and either side can win, which is a surprise considering the massive implications this may end up having.
It's more than just racism however on the side that wants to leave. England is an island and has a finite amount of space and resources. Their population is increasing at an alarming rate due to how easy it is for immigrants to come over and take jobs from locals. Their population is increasing by around 1 million per year. They are currently at 65 million and the UK can only physically support up to 80 million residents.
It's easy for us in Canada to say they should stay without question. But keep in mind we are a Country that can physically support 10x more immigrants, yet we have some of the most strict immigration policies in the world.
One more thing, financially I think short term it may hurt if they leave, but long term it will be much more profitable for the UK. They currently give out so much money to the EU as they have a solid economy and have obligations to financially support the EU. The richest Countries like Norway, Switzerland and Sweden are not part of the EU. Seems to work out well for them.
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Personally, I think the EU is becoming increasingly unmanageable. There are too many countries all with unique economic, cultural and political situations.
I mean, a North American union probably makes more sense but I don't see people here clamoring for it.
The short term pain will not be great with a Brexit, but in the long run, the EU needs to reboot itself if not ended completely.
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I must say though, Sweden has not been benefiting at all from opening it's doors to the rest of the world for the last 40 years. So much so that they're now known as the rape capital of the west.
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Personally, I think the EU is becoming increasingly unmanageable. There are too many countries all with unique economic, cultural and political situations.
I mean, a North American union probably makes more sense but I don't see people here clamoring for it.
The short term pain will not be great with a Brexit, but in the long run, the EU needs to reboot itself if not ended completely.
There are too many unique interest in the EU, and the wealth disparity between countries is too great. It made sense for the UK to be a part of the EU when their economy was rolling and they needed lots of transitory labour. Now that things are bad and the UK needs to overhaul large parts of their economy, it makes far more sense for them to have more individual control.
I must say though, Sweden has not been benefiting at all from opening it's doors to the rest of the world for the last 40 years. So much so that they're now known as the rape capital of the west.
That's crazy - I read recently that the reports of rape have increased something like 500%.
Forty years after the Swedish parliament unanimously decided to change the formerly homogenous Sweden into a multicultural country, violent crime has increased by 300% and rapes by 1,472%. Sweden is now number two on the list of rape countries, surpassed only by Lesotho in Southern Africa.
And it sounds like rather then do something about it, the government is just trying to find politically correct excuses to justify these numbers.
Some food for thought.
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Good discussion on immigration in Sweden in the past 5 years or so:
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On another note, every ballot should be this clear...
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I highly doubt the result will be yes to leaving the EU. If Scotland couldn't get enough votes to become independent, which in my opinion is much more feasible, I would be very surprised at a much more major EU separation result.
And it sounds like rather then do something about it, the government is just trying to find politically correct excuses to justify these numbers.
Some food for thought.
Statistics can only compared across countries (and time periods within a country) if the methods of gathering that data are similar. Different countries have different definitions of rape, varying percentages of victims who file complaints, and different ways of counting the number of offenses.
I mean, does anyone honestly believe you're 150 times more likely to be raped in Sweden compared to India as the UN report sourced on that page would suggest?
Statistics can only compared across countries (and time periods within a country) if the methods of gathering that data are similar. Different countries have different definitions of rape, varying percentages of victims who file complaints, and different ways of counting the number of offenses.
I mean, does anyone honestly believe you're 150 times more likely to be raped in Sweden compared to India as the UN report sourced on that page would suggest?
There are a number of red flags in that study, for instance:
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Rather than doing something about the problem of violence and rape, Swedish politicians, public authorities and media do their best to explain away the facts. Here are some of their explanations:
Swedes have become more prone to report crime.
The law has been changed so that more sexual offences are now classed as rape.
These both seem like reasonable explanations. They may not completely explain the increase but they're definitely contributing factors. The laws around rape in Sweden did change in the last decade and there has been an uptick in reporting.
