First penalty at the Kings game

[badger89]

I was staying in the same hotel as the refs and sitting next to them in the hotel bar after the game. They were all having a good laugh about the game, especially the first penalty. Apparently Hartley had said "Are you out to make yourself the star of the game" after they waved off the first goal and O'Halloran gave him a technical for it. That was it. They all thought it was hilarious. Dickheads.

Not sure if this is thread worthy, but was just blown away with how big of a-holes they were.

[slybomb]

Brutal. I find it pathetic that NHL refs have zero accountability and now they don't even have to listen to players and coaches complain. One word and they just give a penalty.

[burn_baby_burn]

24/7 on HBO must have embarrased the league with how the players, coaches and ref's talk to each other. Didn't make any of them look very smart either. I'm not sure how good Malkin's english is. But he can sure say the F word well.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I knew that was a BS call as soon as it happened. Nothing about that situation said to me that Hartley lost control so badly that he deserved a penalty. Funny thing is, I said the exact same thing that Hartley said to a Kings fan friend of mine and he agreed immediately...and even more so once the Flames had back to back 5 on 3s.

Stupid refs.

[Poe969]

I actually agreed with the call. Stempniak made contact with Quick and he couldn't really make the save. Hartley put more passion in finding an excuse then he does coaching and it cost him.

It's not like this is the first time in history refs have acted like d-bags, getting mad at them and yelling doesn't usually work out well and this whole season the refs have been handing out penalties for doing it. Hartley should have made his comments and not gone over board. But I guess he did that so he could have the excuse in his back pocket just in case.

[t0rrent98]

I would like to see the players slam the refs into the boards and say it was on accident. Haha...

[SofaProfessor]

Gather your pitch forks and torches. This angry mob rides at dawn...

[Bertuzzied]

Do the refs get paid, or are they volunteers?

If they do get paid for their job then i think should be allowed to be criticized. If they don't like that they can get the hell out. So inconsistent they are approaching NBA reffing levels. You never know when there is a penalty.

[Temporary_User]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Do the refs get paid, or are they volunteers?

Of course they are paid.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Temporary_User

Of course they are paid.

LOL, rhetorical question I should think.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I actually agreed with the call. Stempniak made contact with Quick and he couldn't really make the save.

He did BUT had Richards not pushed him into Quick he would have never made contact.

[Travis Munroe]

^^ I dont think it make a difference. The right call was made on no goal and no penalty for the incident. The call on Hartley is embarrassing to officials should the OP statement be accurate.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Inferno

He did

So you agree?

He drove to the net hard, wouldn't have happened. It was the ref's decision and they made it. Arguing the way Hartley did only got the Flames a penalty. That's all I was saying

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Inferno

He did BUT had Richards not pushed him into Quick he would have never made contact.

That is only relevant for goaltender interference which wasn't called. Incidental contact was the call and was correct. Quick couldn't make the save because he was being sat on

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Inferno

He did BUT had Richards not pushed him into Quick he would have never made contact.

Yeah but he still bowled over the goaltender in his crease leaving him no chance at stopping the puck. The fact that the official knew it wasn't intentional is why he didn't call the penalty. It was the right call both ways.

As for the unsportsmanlike I don't see the big deal as one of the Flames recent opponents (can't remember if it was the Coyotes or Stars) were called for an unsportsmanlike and nobody here batted an eye about what was said. There is a fine line and that night Hartley crossed it. It's not like the officials were against the Flames or anything as they handed them back to back two man advantages shortly after.

[Magnum PEI]

^
It was the Canucks. Vigneault whined about it after the game.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

That is only relevant for goaltender interference which wasn't called. Incidental contact was the call and was correct. Quick couldn't make the save because he was being sat on

No, it is relevant to plays such as this as well. If the officials believed that Stempniak could not avoid the contact because of Richards, then the goal should have counted. If they felt that Stempniak could have avoided contact, or that he was too slow in getting up/out of the way, then they waive off. I missed the play in question, so wont offer opinion on whether they made the right call or not.

[Northendzone]

Originally Posted by SofaProfessor

Gather your pitch forks and torches. This angry mob rides at dawn...

there is no justice like angry mob justice!!!!

[FanIn80]

What makes dumping an opposing team's player on top of your own goalie any different than knocking your own net off its moorings?

If you shoot the puck, and I knock my net off, I get a penalty for delay of game.
If you shoot the puck, and I knock your player into my goalie, I should get a penalty for obstruction interference.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Poe969

So you agree?

He drove to the net hard, wouldn't have happened. It was the ref's decision and they made it. Arguing the way Hartley did only got the Flames a penalty. That's all I was saying

That he made contact yes. But only because Richards pushed him. That should have nullified any goalie interference call.