Predict the 2017-18 Flames Lineup

[Macho0978]

Gaudreau - Monahan - Kovalchuk
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Ferland - Bennett - Versteeg
Lazar - Jankowski - Brouwer

Gio - Hamilton
Brodie - Stone
Engelland - Bartowski

Darling
Johnson

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Gaudreau - Monahan - Oshie
Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik
Tkachuk - Bennett - Ferland
Stajan - Lazar - Hathaway
Hamilton

Gio - Hamilton
Brodie - Stone
Kulak - Andersson
Bartkowski

Bishop
Rittich

Thats going to be over $15 million in Salary. Do the flames even have room for that?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Thats going to be over $15 million in Salary. Do the flames even have room for that?

Well he's missing Brouwer and Bouma so easily yes.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

I'll also be disappointed if Ferland is the best option they have for the 1RW next season. We need another weapon on the top line. If teams can clog up Gaudreau's space, we need the other winger to be skilled enough to make something out of nothing as well. Ferland compliments alright, but he doesn't create by himself unless he can force the odd turnover. We need it so that the line can do damage whether or not Gaudreau can find space. Someone that can play at their skill level.

1RW / 4D / stopgap G - there are options out there for all three.

Get it done.

Ferland has improved every year since stumbling into his professional hockey career in 2013. He just completed his second full NHL season and just turned 25-years-old. I thought he was one of the Flames top-five forwards in the playoffs, and I believe he still has lots of room to grow into a fixture in the top-six. I look forward to seeing what he can do next year.

The team's top priorities are absolutely in goal and on defence. Virtually all NHL teams must compensate for holes in depth wrought on by the salary cap, and we have seen that very few teams actually boast a full compliment of bona-fide top-six forwards on their top two lines. If the Flames manage to improve the top-line RW position this summer, then I am, all for it, but only once goaltending and defence are solidified.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Thats going to be over $15 million in Salary. Do the flames even have room for that?

Gaudreau(6.75) - Monahan(6.375)- Oshie(5.5×5)
Jankowski(.925)
- Backlund(3.575) - Frolik(4.3)
Tkachuk(.925) - Bennett(3×3) - Ferland(.825)
Stajan(3.125) - Lazar(.895) - Hathaway(.700)/Chiasson(.900)
Hamilton(.612)

Gio(6.75) - Hamilton(5.5)
Brodie(4.650) - Stone(3x3)
Kulak(.656) - Andersson(.786)
Bartkowski(.612)

Bishop(6x4)
Rittich(.925)

=$68M
+ 1.05 (Raymond buyout)
=$69.05M

And includes adding Chiasson back in who i meant to leave on. Leaves room for re-signing Backlund next summer and Tkachuck the year after.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Gaudreau(6.75) - Monahan(6.375)- Oshie(5.5×5)
Jankowski(.925)
- Backlund(3.575) - Frolik(4.3)
Tkachuk(.925) - Bennett(3×3) - Ferland(.825)
Stajan(3.125) - Lazar(.895) - Hathaway(.700)/Chiasson(.900)
Hamilton(.612)

Gio(6.75) - Hamilton(5.5)
Brodie(4.650) - Stone(3x3)
Kulak(.656) - Andersson(.786)
Bartkowski(.612)

Bishop(6x4)
Rittich(.925)

=$68M
+ 1.05 (Raymond buyout)
=$69.05M

And includes adding Chiasson back in who i meant to leave on. Leaves room for re-signing Backlund next summer and Tkachuck the year after.

Something like this I could see, but instead of Oshie I see Williams as an older, shorter term option. Massive possession driver his whole career, consistently puts up 20g/40p and is money in the playoffs.

[Weitz]

Your not getting Stone for 3x3.

If that's the flames offer he would explore Ufa where he would get more.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Your not getting Stone for 3x3.

If that's the flames offer he would explore Ufa where he would get more.

Yeah, I would tend to agree. I think Stone will get at least $3.8 and a few years.

[Roof-Daddy]

I think the Flames could get Stone for a 3 x $3.5

He gets to stay in Calgary where I'm sure his wife wants to be, and he gets more money in that contract than the rest of his 7 year career has yielded him so far combined.

Flames have him expire same time as Brodie, so they have money to give TJ a raise should they see fit at the time, and 3 years is about when you'd hope a RHD like Rasmus would be ready to take over in the top 4 (and get paid for it) plus you would hope another RHD like Fox has already been in Stockton for a year or two and ready for the big club full time.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Gaudreau(6.75) - Monahan(6.375)- Oshie(5.5×5)
Jankowski(.925)
- Backlund(3.575) - Frolik(4.3)
Tkachuk(.925) - Bennett(3×3) - Ferland(.825)
Stajan(3.125) - Lazar(.895) - Hathaway(.700)/Chiasson(.900)
Hamilton(.612)

Gio(6.75) - Hamilton(5.5)
Brodie(4.650) - Stone(3x3)
Kulak(.656) - Andersson(.786)
Bartkowski(.612)

Bishop(6x4)
Rittich(.925)

=$68M
+ 1.05 (Raymond buyout)
=$69.05M

And includes adding Chiasson back in who i meant to leave on. Leaves room for re-signing Backlund next summer and Tkachuck the year after.

If you want oshie at 5.5 better hope he duds against the penguins and the caps bow out this rd. I figure he gets between 6 and 6.5 from someone.

[Samonadreau]

These are all valid opinions. I would pay a bit more for Stone (3.5) but wouldn't go more than 3 years. I woudnt go any higher than 5.5x5 for Oshie. He's 30 years old. If that doesn't get it done you move on.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I think the Flames could get Stone for a 3 x $3.5

He gets to stay in Calgary where I'm sure his wife wants to be, and he gets more money in that contract than the rest of his 7 year career has yielded him so far combined.

Flames have him expire same time as Brodie, so they have money to give TJ a raise should they see fit at the time, and 3 years is about when you'd hope a RHD like Rasmus would be ready to take over in the top 4 (and get paid for it) plus you would hope another RHD like Fox has already been in Stockton for a year or two and ready for the big club full time.

Totally agree. My same thinking for the 3 years. We've got some potential top 4 rhd depth in the system.

[Mass_nerder]

Yeah, anyone thinking Oshie, who has no connection to Calgary or Canada for that matter, is going to sign here for anything less than a massive overpayment is dreaming.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Your not getting Stone for 3x3.

If that's the flames offer he would explore Ufa where he would get more.

What's worth considering there is his wife + her family are from Calgary. So there might be a small hometown discount there. 3.5 though is probably minimum.

On the other hand, it's not in your place to all matter of factly fling crap at people's predictions. A few pricey contracts are coming off so the Flames will be able to spend a bit. If you're going to make yourself present on non oiler-related topics, don't be insufferable.

[ignite09]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Gaudreau(6.75) - Monahan(6.375)- Oshie(5.5×5)
Jankowski(.925)
- Backlund(3.575) - Frolik(4.3)
Tkachuk(.925) - Bennett(3×3) - Ferland(.825)
Stajan(3.125) - Lazar(.895) - Hathaway(.700)/Chiasson(.900)
Hamilton(.612)

Gio(6.75) - Hamilton(5.5)
Brodie(4.650) - Stone(3x3)
Kulak(.656) - Andersson(.786)
Bartkowski(.612)

Bishop(6x4)
Rittich(.925)

=$68M
+ 1.05 (Raymond buyout)
=$69.05M

And includes adding Chiasson back in who i meant to leave on. Leaves room for re-signing Backlund next summer and Tkachuck the year after.

Oshie, Ferland, and Stone probably add another 2.5/3 million to your estimates. You have them all on very team friendly contracts.

[ignite09]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

What's worth considering there is his wife + her family are from Calgary. So there might be a small hometown discount there. 3.5 though is probably minimum.

On the other hand, it's not in your place to all matter of factly fling crap at people's predictions. A few pricey contracts are coming off so the Flames will be able to spend a bit. If you're going to make yourself present on non oiler-related topics, don't be insufferable.

Nothing he said was inaccurate.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

What's worth considering there is his wife + her family are from Calgary. So there might be a small hometown discount there. 3.5 though is probably minimum.

On the other hand, it's not in your place to all matter of factly fling crap at people's predictions. A few pricey contracts are coming off so the Flames will be able to spend a bit. If you're going to make yourself present on non oiler-related topics, don't be insufferable.

Your right. Stone will take a million dollar haircut because he is from Calgary.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Your right. Stone will take a million dollar haircut because he is from Calgary.

His 4m this year is an inflated at the doors to arbitration deal where it looks like $ was given instead of term. I the previous season is a Bouma sized anomaly. His previous contract off his ELC was 1.5 AAV. I don't think it is unrealistic to think he will come in around 3-3.5 with term attached.

[TheFlamesVan]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Your right. Stone will take a million dollar haircut because he is from Calgary.

I'd take a $3 million haircut to keep my wife happy.

[Toonage]

Stone also brings that big RH shot which will be missing from the back end otherwise.

My (very early) prediction

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Bennett-Jankowski-Brouwer
Versteeg-Lazar-Hathaway
- Hamilton
- Stajan

Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Stone
Kulak-Andersson
- Bartkowski

Bishop-Gillies